Experience with Taurus snubbies?


Dave Markowitz
December 29, 2002, 07:49 PM
Anyone have experience with the Tuarus snubbies? I'd like to get a 2" or 3" snubbie in .38 or .357 sometime and they seem like a good buy. E.g. the Model 850 CIA (http://www.taurususa.com/m850.html)

My only recent experience with a Taurus is a Tracker .45 ACP that my dad (Ron in PA) recently bought. The DA pull out of the box sucked but is improving as he shoots and dry fires it.


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3 gun
December 29, 2002, 08:16 PM
Just one Taurus in the family, a 605. I got a good one. It's worked/shot great from day one. This is not always the case with Taurus products.

December 29, 2002, 08:25 PM
Was recently in the market for a good snubby. Always liked the
3". I was very disapointed to find that taurus no longer lists the
three inch guns in their catalog. Of the 2" guns from Taurus I
looked at, the fit and finish was very nice (and you gotta love
their grips). The only flaw I saw was that the front sight post
was milled off center on some of the barrels. That pretty much
stopped me (that day). I'll probably be looking at the 3" sp101,
gp100, or an old model 13 / 65 if I can find one in that barrel
length. Just examine the one you want to buy and you should
be fine. If not, there is always that lifetime warranty...


December 29, 2002, 08:32 PM
I have one of their 2" .38 specials, model 85UL. It's been accurate and reliable. Very light and easy to carry. It's not especially comfortable to shoot. I find compact .40S&W and .45 autoloaders more comfortable to shoot than a 2" .38. I can't imagine shooting one of the scandium or ti guns, especially in .357.

December 29, 2002, 08:33 PM
I've shot a 605, too. It was really well made in stainless. No complaints from me or the owner.

December 29, 2002, 08:45 PM
I own a Taurus 617 (7 shot .357), and it is an excellent revolver. Though my USPc is my current carry gun, I still go back to the 617 every once in awhile. It's quite accurate for a snubbie, and points naturally for me.

At 100 yrds. I shot at a 5 gallon bucket single-action, hitting it twice out of the 7 shots, and around 2-3" under it with the rest of the cylinder.

Dave Markowitz
December 29, 2002, 09:09 PM
Thanks guys and gal!

George Hill
December 29, 2002, 09:20 PM
Very good.

December 29, 2002, 09:26 PM
I had a Model 85 with the standard hammer in blue. I did have to send it back to Taurus as out the box it had 2 problems:

First, the barrel was machined wrong. When threaded on the frame, it turned a little too far & the front sight was canted. The POA was way off. I should have noticed that by looking at the gun when I bought it.

Second, it was light striking the primer in DA.

This was a good 8 to 10 years ago. I sent the gun back to Taurus, and it was returned right, although I do seem to remember getting a little anxious for its return. It worked flawlessly after that, & I was pretty accurate with it.

I sold it to a friend to fund another purchase, he still has it & reports no problems with it.

happy old sailor
December 29, 2002, 09:55 PM
got a Taurus 41 mag snubby (think mdl 415) and it is well put together, dull grey stainless, five shot, ported, and shoots very well. recoil is less than i thought it was going to be, still a little stiff, but the ribber grips calms it down some. my woman thinks it is great fun but tires of it after a couple cylinders. says it recoils more than her SnW 29. think twist better describes it.

carried it w/me this a.m. while walking my woods. no fear of man or beast.

i also have the mdl 608, a .357 eignt shooter. it is also well put together and finished. just look a Taurus over really good before buying. i did and got two good ones.

December 29, 2002, 11:36 PM
I have had no problems with my Taurus 85 UL .38 Special. :)

December 29, 2002, 11:42 PM
My 731UL has been a champ from day one. It has just an absolute gem of a trigger for a coil-sprung J-frame-sized gun.

Neal Bloom
December 29, 2002, 11:53 PM
We have a blue 605. Very reliable and suprisingly accurate. Heard a lot of stories about Taurus quality but so far we have been very pleased with it. Would not hesitate to buy another.

December 29, 2002, 11:58 PM
I had that shiny black version of the 605. It was a good gun but the finish didn't hold up well at all. :(

December 30, 2002, 12:07 AM
The nice ones are really nice, while the not os nice ones need serious help. The 2 used snubbie 38's I've shot were very nice and very accurate, while the 3 or 4 Trackers I checked out in stores had very gritty triggers. Might just be a matter of break in tho.

Alan Fud
December 30, 2002, 12:11 AM
Own the 850 and two 85's (one with a concealed hammer and one with a regular hammer) ... all three of them are stainless steel and quality handguns.

I owned a titanium ultra-lite 85 but traded it in for a S&W342 when I saw a grapefruit size fireball coming out of the ports. Stay away from ported defensive guns. The S&W and the Taurus SS models don't have ports to worry about.

December 30, 2002, 03:57 AM
I carry a 605 that I haven't had a bit of trouble with, and now with a set of lighter springs it has the trigger pull of a S&W.

December 30, 2002, 05:26 AM
I have a 605, stainless steel, factory comp, and I love this gun. I agree with the post that said, when you get a good one - it's real good.

I've shot a couple of the semis and don't think I would buy one. But I truely like this 605. Looks like a million bucks, shoots great and has, I kid you not, the smoothest action of any revolver I've ever shot.

All in all, if you get a good one, I think you'll find it to be one of the best bangs for your buck. They are priced quite fair.

Kahr carrier
December 30, 2002, 05:36 AM
I have shot a few they seem to be a good buy for the price. The best Taurus experience Ive had is shooting my friends ankle gun a Taurus Model 605 3 inch with the 3 hole porting on top of the barrel it was loaded with 125 grain 357 what a blast.;)

December 30, 2002, 08:29 AM
A friend of mine has one and they are really good guns.

RJ likeguns
December 30, 2002, 09:03 AM
I have a 2" ported 85. I had 2 light strikes out of 50 on the Winchester white box Wal - Mart ammo. Other than that, no problems. I really like the gun.:D

Still Learning
December 30, 2002, 09:59 AM
About two years ago a neighbor picked up a used 2 inch Taurus and asked me to look it over. We ran about 200 rounds through it and it seemed to be fine. The double action was a bit rough but certainly not insurmountable. Accuracy was acceptable--as I recall I was shooting groups around 2 inches at around 7 to 10 yards.

The +P .38 loads were a might harsher in this little package but then again I'm used to shooting and carrying Kimber 1911's or a 4 inch S&W 624 in .44 spl. Both handle recoil better but I do sometimes wish for a lightweight snubbie!

If I keep thinking about this, I'll never be able to afford that Steyr Scout!

December 30, 2002, 10:01 AM
I've got 3. All perform well.

First one is a 605 3". Shoots well with no problems. Next is a 2" stainless 44 special with a concealed hammer. Sweet gun but kinda heavy to conceal except for on a belt.

Last one is my favorite.

A 445 3" 44 special which I picked it up from a pawnshop in terrible condition. Had light rust spots and had scratches from what looked like sliding on concrete. Gunsmith friend of mine put a blue job on it and buffed out all of the marks (for the most part) now it is my "truck gun".

Gotta love those 44 specials! :D

December 30, 2002, 10:21 AM
I own a 2" bead blasted SS Taurus 850 dressed up with a Barami Hip-Grip. Trigger is fairly stout at approximately 10 lbs.

I routinely work out with it at 75 yards using garden variety .38spl reloads. Never had a problem. Goes bang everytime. Hits POA.

Barami Hip-Grip lets it disappear when concealed.

Outstanding CCH rig.

December 30, 2002, 10:42 AM
My wife has an 85 stainless. She has shot handguns very little. She shoots sub 3" groups and 7 yards.

December 30, 2002, 11:42 AM
Had a 605 and had problems with lockup, friend had a mod.85 and had no problems whatsoever.

December 30, 2002, 04:06 PM
I had a 605. Very good gun. I found that it was a little too small for me to be shooting much .357mag out of it so I sold it. It was serveral ounces heavier than the .38spl Taurus 85 and in this size gun a few ounces is a big deal. I am snubbiless while I save for a Taurus 85 or 85UL in .38spl.

The 605 was my second Taurus revolver (first was a 4" medium frame 82) and it certainly won't be my last. Trigger was nice, lock up was just fine, finish was decent (it was a blued gun), accuracy was as good as I expected from a snub and the price was right.

December 30, 2002, 04:45 PM
I had a 617 w/concealed hammer, but I could never warm up to the built in lock so I sold it.

December 30, 2002, 05:03 PM
I bought a Mod. 85 new about ten years ago. Light primer strikes in DA, shot about six inches left at 15 yds. and spit lead due to the misaligned cylinder. Others have been luckier than I was but honestly I'm not in a real big hurry to buy another one!

December 30, 2002, 06:58 PM
I've owne six Taurus revolvers. All were NIB, 38/357, five were snubbies and one was a SS Tracker. Three were absolutely fine which included the Tracker. Three were absolutely unacceptable out of the box and were sent back to the factory. In fact, Taurus eventually repaired each of them. Each took a long time (up to six months) to get the repair right. Trying to talk to someone on the phone was akin to baying at the moon and getting someone to call back (although I was promised that they would call back) never, never happened. As I said earlier, the repairs were accomplished but only after much waiting and hassle. This is a cautionary tale FWIW. Good shooting:)

December 30, 2002, 08:04 PM
I have a model 85,blued steel that i like,very accurate but groups 4" to the right at 20'.If i but another taurus i'll treat it like a 25 year old revolver and do a complete check before i buy it.

December 30, 2002, 08:33 PM
I've got the 617 stainless with 2" ported barrel. Got about about 2000 or so rounds of 38 & 357 through it so far and it's never failed to fire. With 7 rounds onboard, it's a nice backup piece.

December 30, 2002, 09:01 PM
I have a 650 CIA in stainless and an 85TI. I used to have a plain old 85, but in a fit of stupidity I got rid of it. Yeah, they're a dime a dozen, but thanks to former Gov. Wilder screwing us several years back, I haven't elected to using my one a month to replace the old 85. My experience with Taurus snubbies has been generally very good. They give Smith a run for the money as far as workmanship goes. I kind of fancy the snub .44 special right now - might just have to get one.

December 30, 2002, 10:58 PM
I must be one of the few owners of a Taurus 850 Titanium CIA. Haven't really seen any posting here or on TFL of anyone who owns one. It was my first non-S&W revolver. It had to go back to the factory immediately as it was so tight the cylinder face was scraping the forcing cone causing it to lock up. Taurus fixed it up though and it is very nice. Weighs 16 ounces and is ported. Shoots very nicely and the trigger is very smooth. I got it over the S&W 642 because I was intrigued by the idea of a titanium revolver and it was a bit cheaper too - $400.

December 31, 2002, 12:35 AM
I had an early Taurus Model 85. Loaded the cylinder with 5 rounds, pulled the trigger 5 times, only 3 shots fired. Went back to the factory twice. They never could fix it but they offered me a new gun. I got my money back and bought a Smith & Wesson snubbie.

The new ones may very well be better. For what it's worth, a retired, big city law enforcement officer told me he carries a Taurus Model 650.

Kentucky Rifle
December 31, 2002, 08:50 AM
I purchased it because of the fine pictures and good reports of Lendringser and Tamara. The silverwood grips they put on their's were simply beautiful. (I bought a set of those too.) The reason I purchased the 731 is that I am a fan of the .32 H&R magnum cartridge. Little recoil and doesn't hurt arthritic fingers at all. The wife carries a Total Ti 85---every day and every where. She's had it for about three years now I guess, and has had no malfunctions at all. I've also noticed that both revolvers have very light single action triggers. My 731 has the lightest double action trigger, but it did come with a factory trigger job. No complaints here.

Kentucky Rifle

December 31, 2002, 05:49 PM
It's a pity Taurus doesn't realize that a lifetime warranty isn't enough. When a customer sends a malfunctioning gun back for repair, they need to make damn sure that they fix it the first time. It is inexcusable for something to have to go back 2x.

December 31, 2002, 06:41 PM
The last Taurus snubby I owned was THE LAST Taurus I'll ever own. I've had many problems with Taurus guns and repairs. Too bad because they make some (potentially) nice guns. The lower price of Taurus is soon made up in shipping costs back to the factory for repairs that take a very, very long time. Just my experience, others have had great luck with them.

December 31, 2002, 09:37 PM
As 10Ring and FunYet pointed out, Taurus QC SOMETIMES leaves something to be desired...a coupla' friends have had less than stellar experiences with their Tauri revo's...that being said, I have owned three myself...a stainless Model 85 "Concealed Hammer" that I bought as a stopgap measure after S&W had re-introduced the Centennial (Model 442) but before they were available...carried it about 18 months...no problems, decent lil' gun with an okay trigger action...also had a blued Model 85 "C-H" that I purchased a couple years ago because, at the price it was offered to me for, I knew I could turn it for a profit...or trade it for something I wanted more...which is what happened.
Finally, I had a stainless 731--NOT the "UltraLight"--in .32 Mag...nice lil' gun, but having both a Smith 332 AND a Ruger SP-101 in .32 Mag, I just couldn't justify keeping the Taurus, so I traded it--even--for a Marlin 1894 "CS" in .357 Mag--LOVE those pistol-caliber leverguns!!!...but I digress...IF you are willing to look CLOSELY at the Taurus revo's, AND reject those that are NOT "up to snuff", you can find good guns at a decent price...FWIW....mikey357

Baba Louie
January 1, 2003, 07:44 PM
The 85 I've got has never hiccupped on me. Always a shooter. Close range preferable to 25 yds. tho'.

The 82 3" got given to my ex as her house gun. It's also never had a failure when we take it (or should I say took it) out shooting. 4" groups at 25 yds. when I shot it. She is a little looser with her groups at that range, but I feel confident in her ability to use it if she must.

The 431 3" is also quite fine to date.

All three were purchased in the 85 - 89 period and I never even filled out the warranty card to send in.

Of course it helps when your father is a smith who likes to work on anything with a cylinder.

I would not hesitate to buy another if the mood/need strikes.


January 1, 2003, 10:48 PM

I almost got my CIA in Titanium. Then I thought carefully about how bad my 85TI can be with the old 158 +P loads. Even with the ported barrel this sucker is a handful and I elected to get the extra girth of stainless steel. It was a highly personal choice though.

January 2, 2003, 08:13 AM
I guess I got lucky. I have a 2" Titanium 45 Colt, and a 4" Titanium 357 and have not had any problems with either. The recoil of the 357 is more than managable with full loads, but the 45 is a handful. Both are capable of more accuracy than I am.

January 2, 2003, 04:28 PM
I've had a M85UL for a couple years. Have put roughly 500 rounds thought it. I carry it more then any other gun. I only shoot it DA and don't have a problem hitting steel plates at 10yds. Though only a 38, it is very snappy. It is my wife's favorite gun and often sleeps in her nightstand. I really like their "police" version with the bob'd hammer.


Vladimir Berkov
January 2, 2003, 09:35 PM
I like my 85.

January 2, 2003, 09:52 PM

I've just shot mine with standard .38s thus far. May have to try the +Ps soon. Very manageable with regular .38s. When I carry it, I use Federal 125 grain Nyclad HP .38. Not sure why it doesn't have more appeal. I think I've only seen one other posting on another forum by someone who owns one. The titanium really intrigued me for some reason otherwise I would have gotten a S&W 642. Very nice trigger and lightweight, I like it.

Politically Incorrect
January 3, 2003, 01:00 AM
I bought a bright blue Titanium 617 that I sold to my roommate later on. He was hitting a pop can three out of seven times at 50 yards.

Of course, it was the second one I owned because I had to take the first one back since the trigger seized on me.

TC Rider
January 3, 2003, 10:59 PM
I bought mine last spring and love it.

Mine is the multialloy, concealed hammer version. It weighs in at 13.7 oz.

I carry it in a Wild Bill's pocket holster and it is a very easy carry.

I've found it to be very accurate out to 7 yards. Loose groups beyond that range may have more to do with my 50 yo eyes than the Taurus.

The porting makes it very easy to handle with normal pressure 38sp ammo. It does bite and dance a bit with the +p stuff, but still not too hard to handle.

I carry it loaded with the Federal 38sp +p nyclads.

I think I paid about 369 for mine at a gun show.

Hope this helps.

happy old sailor
January 4, 2003, 01:06 AM
can't say this little Taurus 817 is mine anymore. the woman took one look and claimed it.

is a snubbie, ported, ss, .38 spec +p rated, ultralight, 7 shot, and weighs about a pound empty.

is less than two mos old, less than 200 rounds, still a little stiff, but, expect it to clean up a bit and be a good one. so far so good.

Kahr carrier
January 7, 2003, 07:57 AM
Taurus 605 357 are cool ,I like the old ones they used to have with the Hybrid comps.:evil:

January 8, 2003, 05:32 PM
Taurus 617 (7 shot .357), 2"-ported bbl that I'm very happy with. Very reliable and fantastic blueing on this one ... almost Colt like.

Worth the money in my book.

Good luck.

September 23, 2006, 08:43 AM
I've had a stainless Taurus 85CH .38 since 1997. Great little gun. I carry it often.

lee n. field
September 23, 2006, 11:10 AM
Always liked the
3". I was very disapointed to find that taurus no longer lists the
three inch guns in their catalog.

(Ancient message, but the thread's popped up again.)

In the 2006 catalog, Taurus does list some 3" wheelguns. I haven't seen any, and would be interested in anyone's impressions who has.

September 23, 2006, 12:35 PM
I love my 85 stainless. It's prelock and I've never had a bit of trouble out of it. Pretty accurate and easy to shoot, especially with the snub grips Taurus puts out.

Panthera Tigris
September 23, 2006, 04:01 PM
Personally, I'm skeptical about the negative repair comments directed at Taurus. Last year I owned a 44 magnum Tracker that needed to be repaired. I didn't even bother to call them. I just shipped it via UPS and told them in a form I downloaded from their site what needed to be repaired. 3.5 weeks later the Tracker came back repaired and worked great. I sold the Tracker only because I could not afford to buy the ammo for it, or drive 45 miles each way to the one place where I could find 44 special rounds, which were the only ones I liked to shoot out of it.

I currently have a 650 and two 24/7s. Taurus is the only brand I own right now.

September 23, 2006, 05:40 PM
Am I the only one here who owns a 606? 2" Stainless 6 shot .357. Hits whatever I point it at.

.38 Special
September 23, 2006, 05:48 PM
Taurus 85 concealed hammer. Probably ten years old. Godawful DA pull, with a trigger return spring that actually forces my finger forward. Have never had a single malfunction, however.

Taurus 669; one of my first handguns. Abused it badly while learning to handload. Eventually shot it loose and caused the barrel to twist. Sent it back with the downloadable form, just like Panthera, and recieved it back within a few weeks, with problems corrected, and no charge even though I had plainly abused the gun.

I have no real problems with Taurus, but just the same, don't plan on buying any more. Old S&W revolvers are mostly inexpensive and mostly terrific.

Dave Markowitz
September 24, 2006, 03:47 PM
Holy cow! I started this thread almost four years ago.

I've since acquired a couple of J-Frames. :)

November 1, 2006, 10:25 AM
I think the manta for buying Taurus revolvers should be:

"Examine it with your own hands before you buy it!"

Be wary of buying one without actually checking the trigger, action/lockup, sights, etc... There's a great post somewhere in this forum about how to check revolvers for function when buying.

I've got 3 Tauri:

PT92 Stainless 9mm: worked flawlessly out of the box... 1 stovepiped case in >5K rounds... sent it in for warranty service after I'd screwed up the reassembly after *fully* disassembling it, and I even lost part of that stoopid key lock in the grip. They fixed it for free (minus the next day shipping) and got it back to me in 3 weeks.

651 .357mag snub stainless revolver: also worked beautifully out of the box, no problems after 500 rounds. Remarkably accurate for such a short barrel and simple sights. Locks up tight like it's supposed to. Trigger is MUCH better after dryfiring and a trip to the range.

Tracker 970 22lr stainless: Just got it yesterday; action seems fine, but the barrel appears not to have been fully torqued on, hence the front site appears at about 12:30 when looking through the rear sights. Sending it back for repairs tomorrow.

R.H. Lee
November 1, 2006, 10:34 AM
I've got an 85 that's worked flawlessly since day one. Its quality and workmanship are every bit as good as any J frame Smith (and maybe better than some), right down to the excellent blueing.

Silent Sam
November 2, 2006, 03:33 PM
I have a Total Titanium concealed hammer snubby. I bought it when Taurus started porting all their snubbies. Mine is not ported. I ordered it expecting it would be but luckily it is not. Initially the double action pull was rough but has smoothed nicely after cleaning it out and a good amount of use. I broke a firing pin after several hundred rounds and several thousand dry fires. I think it took about 3 weeks to get it back. I got the impression that there was only one guy that did all the warranty work. Since then it has been perfect. I bought it to have a left hand pocket gun with reasonable power and as a backup for my normal carry 45. and it is that. I've fired one box of 38's through it, all the rest have been full power Winchester 158gr hollowpoints which it shoots to POA out to 25 yds. It still locks up tight. It is more accurate than I can hold. I don't expect to have to use at that range but it is good to know it will put them there if I need to. Someday a javalina is going to have a bad day:). To me it is the perfect belly gun. It is light, I can shoot it through a jacket pocket and I have confidence in 5 rounds of 357 at contact distance. I shoot a cylinder through it about every other or third range trip, snake out the cylinders and bore, reload it, and put it back in my pocket.

November 2, 2006, 03:56 PM
I previously had a stainless model 415 in .41mag with a 2" ported barrel. It was a well made gun that I put over a thousand rounds of full bore mag loads through. But it became trade fodder for my second stainless Ruger Redhawk in the same caliber. I wanted a 4" .41mag to carry afield. I shortened the Redhawk's barrel to 4" to suit my needs.

November 2, 2006, 04:07 PM
Its not a snubbie but i have a large frame M44S6 .44 mag. It was built in 95, im the third owner, the first was my friends sisters boyfriend, and he was a freaking moron. Then my friend bought it, and i bought it from him. When i first got it the trigger pull was horrendous, it must have been upwards of 12 pounds. So i took the whole thing apart and noticed what looked like soda syrup gumming up everything. So after a through cleaning it was a completely diffrent animal. Lockup is great, smooth double and crisp single action. Taurus makes a good revolver.

November 2, 2006, 10:38 PM
Holy cow! I started this thread almost four years ago.

I've always wondered what possesses someone to reply to a nearly 4 year old thread. Perhaps bestseller92 can enlighten us.

November 2, 2006, 11:24 PM
This Taurus M-85 ss (pre lock) has proven 100% reliable with more than 1K rnds. , it weighs about 1 1/2 ozs more than the S&W M-36
Time is not relative here .

.38 Special
November 3, 2006, 12:15 AM
I've always wondered what possesses someone to reply to a nearly 4 year old thread.
Maybe he's been jumped on by moderators and/or wannabe moderators for starting new threeads when old ones already exist.

Not that that would happen here, mind you...:scrutiny: :D

November 3, 2006, 10:29 AM
I bought a Taurus 85 stainless .38 with a two-inch barrel. It shot a little low to the left at 15 yards, but other than that it performed great. I bought it about 12 years ago for my wife (but she never used it, she hates shooting). So I sold it a month ago for another gun purchase.

Dusty Rusty
November 3, 2006, 10:31 AM
My very first gun was a Taurus Model 605. I love it--no problems and easy to carry concealed. In fact, it is my gun of choice.

November 16, 2006, 09:40 AM
I've always wondered what possesses someone to reply to a nearly 4 year old thread. Perhaps bestseller92 can enlighten us.


I just bought a Taurus 651 and came to THR to search for feedback since I bought it on a whim without doing any research.

When I typed, "Taurus 651" in the search box this is the first thread that came up.

Anyway, it seems that I should make out ok with the new gun. I already have a Taurus 970 that I love, and my brother has a model 83 that kicks butt.

November 16, 2006, 10:52 AM
I have done this same thing before. I did a search and found a thread about what I was looking for. I then posted a response, forgetting that it was an old thread. These things happen... Saw the same thing in the classifieds a while back. A guy responded to a "gun for sale" add that was several years old.

Regarding Taurus... I just bought a used 605 snub (basically new) and have yet to take it to the range. It seems to have a good DA trigger and an excellent SA trigger. Everything seems well made and it locks up tight. I'm hoping it ends up being a keeper. I don't like the sights on it since they are hard to see in dim light, but aside from that I am happy so far. The transferable lifetime warranty is a plus.


November 16, 2006, 03:50 PM
I have a 850CIA in stainless and had it a couple years and shot probably 200 rounds thru it but after reading all the posts on Taurus I 'am thinking of getting rid of it because I am finding it hard to trust it even though it has never had a problem.

November 16, 2006, 04:00 PM
About three years ago, I bought a Taurus 415, 41 Mag. that has a 2 1/2" ported barrel. I got it in steel instead of titanium because I was concerned that the recoil in any relatively light 41 Mag. might make repeat (follow-up) shots more difficult and because the titanium frame would only accentuate any recoil-related problem. It turns out that the 451 is not especially difficult to shoot well and is actually far more pleasant to shoot than my S&W 642 when using +P .38 Specials.

Though in the Taurus larger caliber "snubbie" line of revolvers I preferred the 2 1/2" barrel of the 41 as opposed to the 2" lengths offered in the 44 and 45 calibers, I'm still not fully sold on the ports. A ported barrel does seem to help a little in reducing muzzle "jump" but I'm more than a little concerned about what might happen to your vision if you found it necessary to fire the revolver in a close-quarter situation where it was positioned in a tucked-in, waist level configuration...

Old John
November 16, 2006, 04:22 PM
About a dozen years ago, I bought a Taurus Mod. 85 SS, 2in. 38Spec.
I never had a misfire with it. I carried it a couple years.
Then I traded up to a Ruger SP101, 2in., 357 Mag. A bit more power.

I guess about 6 or 7 years ago I ran across a Taurus Mod.450-SS, 2 in.
in .45 Colt, for $215. I could not pass it up.
Only thing I do not like is the porting. But, other than that, it's a "honey".

I love to shoot it with, Cowboy or CAS Loads, 250gr.LFN Boolits, at
750 fps. Not sure what kinda "Stopper" it'd be. Not bad, I'd s'pose.
I't a little bulkier than my SP101. but carries Okay, in a Galco, high-ride
pancake holster.
Just the kinda gun, for an old guy, like me.

Aww, anyway.......I buffed it out & it looks nearly like a new one.
Good shooter, at a bargain price, never misses, at 10yrds.
Live deliberately.

November 16, 2006, 11:21 PM
I like my Taurus guns and have had no problems with sending only two of them for repairs( one was my falt for needing repair) My Taurus Handguns are, Mdl.66 4", Two Mdl.85s 2", Mdl.94 4", Mdl.617 2", Mdl.627 4", Mdl.905 2", Mdl.605 2", and Mdl.608 4".

November 17, 2006, 12:46 AM
I have a snubbie .44 tracker. Quality is good, but it's no S&W. It is my carry gun, and I take it with me hiking, or if I am alone at work. I am trying to break the trigger in, as I am not real happy with it.

BTW, I love the ribber grip! And I love the sights in the snubbie! Still wish I had spent the money on a 696 :(

November 17, 2006, 07:08 AM
Got a titanium in .45 colt. Good gun, kicks alot, shoots high so 6 o'clock hold is necessary (or the old testicular hold in self defense situatiuons).

November 17, 2006, 09:55 AM
Had a 605, which I liked a lot. Sold it in a cash crunch, but it was mostly superb (it went back to Taurus for a jammed cylinder pin, which is not a unique-to-taurus failure, but could happen to any gun--Taurus fixed it with nary a complaint).

Have now a Model 85UL with the concealed hammer. I bought one, and it was defective (cylinder spun freely, trigger pull was horrific); returned it to Gander Mountain and they replaced it without discussion, and the replacement was flawless. I'm quite pleased with my Taurus experience.

November 17, 2006, 10:17 AM
My Taurus M85UL has the absolute best out of the box DA trigger I've ever shot on a revolver. It isn't that bad to shoot, but +P stuff does slap you a little in a 15 ounce revolver. It shoots 3" groups at 25 yards. I had the front sight milled off and a sight with an elevation wire installed for my light loads. I've always wanted to do this and decided to with this gun because it was a keeper. This allows me to shoot my light loads involving a very accurate 105 grain SWC and my 158 grain +Ps with a simple adjustment of sight picture. This little gun fits in a pocket, yet is accurate enough to shoot small game out to 20-25 yards with, pretty awesome little gun. With my light loads, I think of it as a kit gun that fits in a pocket. Same gun with +P is a self defense gun, something I couldn't say about a .22 kit gun. And, it's amazing how well you can hit with a snubby at extended ranges, too. I carry it when I'm out in the sticks or fishing or such. I usually have a sub compact 9mm for social duties, but often carry the little Taurus for that, too.

November 17, 2006, 10:42 AM
took a Taurus Model 44 home yesterday. I ordered it based on pics I saw. Found out after I ordered it, that it was ported. Didn't want porting... but oh well.

Never shot a ported gun before, so I guess I'll find out if I like it or not next time at the range.

sure does look nice though, the gun I mean. Not crazy about the grip, it seems "skinny". I like a more round, hand-filling grip.

If it turns out to be a good-quality gun, I may buy a .357mag too. The smiths are too expensive, unless used.

edit: sorry, I just noticed the "snubby" part of this thread...

May 20, 2007, 03:26 PM
On the 608, the 6.5 inch barrel looks nice, but with the porting, does that reduce the effective length of the barrel to be closer to 5 inch?

May 20, 2007, 10:43 PM
Dave, I have a Taurus 605 .357 that I really like. I checked it out good when new and shoot W-W 145 gr. ST's. It has
a lot of recoil but manageable. It was $250 less than a Smith 60. I shoot 3'' groups at 15 yards from a rest.

Dave Markowitz
May 22, 2007, 02:12 PM
I see that yet again this thread has been resurrected back from the bowels of THR. :)

Since I started this thread, I've picked up two S&W Model 640s, and a 2" Model 15, so I'm all set with snubbies. Perhaps other members will benefit, however.

July 2, 2014, 08:12 PM
I own a Taurus Model 605 ss and I like it...looks like it's been a while since anyone posted on here.:what:

July 3, 2014, 12:24 PM
I own a great first years SS model 85 I carried for 20 years. Best trigger ever and still a good looking revolver.
http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l444/hardluk1/th_107_4231_zps2fa7a2b5.jpg (http://s331.photobucket.com/user/hardluk1/media/107_4231_zps2fa7a2b5.jpg.html)

July 3, 2014, 06:47 PM
I have a SS Taurus 2" 85 we affectionately call Pinky. I bought the revolver for my wife but she didn't like or wasn't interested in it so I went and got some pink Hogue grips for the pistol to dress it up for her. Still she wasn't interested in Pinky. Today Pinky is my truck gun. I've run a few hundred rounds through the revolver without so much as a burp. I've been told by a friend after he shot Pinky if the worst case scenario were to happen and Pinky had to be pulled folks might laugh themselves into submission without ever having to use him. Do I like Pinky? Of course, as much as anyone can like a snubby. :D

July 3, 2014, 07:46 PM
I have a model 85 that I bought in 1990. I don't know about the new ones but mine is just as good as a S&W 36. I've had zero problems with it and it has had maybe 300 rounds through it.

July 3, 2014, 07:54 PM
I guess the thread was so nice... it got necro'd twice.

On topic: I have a Taurus 85 from 1994. So just a bit older than this thread. My very first gun, still have it, still my main carry. It has been superb.

July 4, 2014, 10:35 AM
I guess the thread was so nice... it got necro'd twice.

Or more. ;)

I have a 85UL I got in 2008. I don't fire it much, but I carry it a lot. When I have pulled the trigger, it has always sent a bullet downrange. :cool:

July 4, 2014, 12:12 PM
This is my 605 Poly Protector 357/38. Pretty good revolver,no problems so far.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd42/SigVet/MyTaurus3_zpsa2f03344.jpg (http://s220.photobucket.com/user/SigVet/media/MyTaurus3_zpsa2f03344.jpg.html)

Dave Markowitz
July 4, 2014, 08:02 PM
Resurrected yet again.

just for fun
July 4, 2014, 09:50 PM
Bought a 85SS used, in unfired condition, pre-lock. It is a distant second to my (read, now wife's) J-36. Sill it will run with any current J frame on any scale one might want to compare it with.
It now serves as my daily carry firearm.
Data for reloads are from Speer Reloading Manual #10 with 2400 load past any current listing it sent a Hornady 158gr. LHPSWC across the screens at 924FPS average. Slight leading noted!! Federal primers, cases fell out and primers showed no signs of flatting. Increased recoil noted. Not a practice load, but one outstanding carry load.
Coming up on my 69th B-day I've learned to keep most things in prospective. I doesn't matter what your talking about-cars, trucks, boats, battery powered tools, really anything. The best you can say about it is- I'd buy it again, and that's how I feel about Taurus snubbies. I'd buy it again!

July 4, 2014, 11:35 PM
have a buddy, had an older taurus, .357 7shot snub nose bought in the mid 90's maybe, cant for the life of me remember the model number? good gun though, better looking than their current offerings
Anybody know what model numbers? or what s&w revolver it was a copy of?
i liked the size of it fit my hand pretty well (bigger hands)

Onward Allusion
July 4, 2014, 11:59 PM
That would probably be a Taurus 617 with a 2" barrel. My most-times carry. I just picked up a Taurus 608 4" 357 in SS. I might lop it down to 2.5". Getting the right tools together at the moment. 8 shots of 357 Mag w/o a reload is nothing to sneeze at. :)

July 5, 2014, 12:28 AM
have a buddy, had an older taurus, .357 7shot snub nose bought in the mid 90's maybe, cant for the life of me remember the model number? good gun though, better looking than their current offerings
Anybody know what model numbers? or what s&w revolver it was a copy of?
i liked the size of it fit my hand pretty well (bigger hands)
GeneTaurus® Mdl 617, it is not a copy of any S&W® design. It is built on the Taurus® "Compact Frame" which is to say it is larger than a small/J frame, but smaller than a medium/K frame. It is an outstanding gun and has been my EDCG since 05/2003.....
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/dawei851/Taurus%20Revolvers/100_2233.jpg (http://s103.photobucket.com/user/dawei851/media/Taurus%20Revolvers/100_2233.jpg.html)
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/dawei851/Taurus%20Revolvers/100_2235.jpg (http://s103.photobucket.com/user/dawei851/media/Taurus%20Revolvers/100_2235.jpg.html)

July 5, 2014, 08:43 AM
My only experience with Taurus revolvers has been very positive. I own a mid 90's 3" SS 431 44 special that is superb. Great trigger and very accurate...what more can you ask from any revolver.

July 5, 2014, 09:19 PM
I had numerous problems with a couple model 85s. Timing issues, flash gap problems and soft firing pin hits. Now this was on two 85s I had 15 years ago or so, hopefully Taurus has fixed these issues. Last I remember they did have excellent customer service and really wanted to keep me as a satisfied customer.

July 5, 2014, 11:37 PM
you guys are good! I finally got ahold of my friend and he said it was a 617 just as you guys had, impressive
thanks for the clarification I had wrongly assumed they made just smith copies thanks for setting me straight

July 6, 2014, 12:02 AM
It's kinda luck of the draw as to whether you get a good one or not. Bought a m85 about 20 years ago that was excellent, and a m85UL about 10 years ago that was also excellent. Went to the lgs a few months ago to look at one with a buddy. Of the 5 they had in stock, 3 had the same issue.

In single action, if you pulled the trigger very slowly, as one would do when target shooting, (or checking creep, as I was doing) the hammer would drop and stop about 1/4" from the firing pin. In double action, or if you pulled the trigger smartly in single action, it would drop fine.

While I realize a .38 snub isn't gonna see a lot of time shooting bullseye, it should still function correctly. After that experience, and after a lot of stories on the web, I have decided that like many things, Taurus quality isn't what it used to be. Personally I will no longer consider buying a new one.

July 6, 2014, 12:59 AM
In past threads I have trashed the Taurus, as I own a 608 and have had problems with timing and rough action. But, I pulled the side plate off and found that the inside had what appeared to be factory shavings. I cleaned it out really well, and now it is a different revolver. It's much cleaner feeling in DA and SA, and no more timing issues what so ever. It's also extremely accurate with both +p 38's, and full house .357's.

For the money, they are a decent revolver IMO.


July 6, 2014, 01:35 AM
I've had maybe five Taurus 85s and all were great. A couple of 'em I put a few thousand rounds through. Bear in mind my last one was purchased over 20 years ago and only one was brand new even then, so IDK if the quality is decent nowadays or not. But all of mine were nice. The fact that I got rid of them all says more about my youth, predilection for autos and the fact that I usually didn't have a lot of cash but was always chasing the next gun.:banghead:

July 6, 2014, 10:35 AM
I own three. Two are pre-lock guns, and one is current production. NONE of them have given me an issue in 20+ years of service. I also own a 3" Model 66, and a Model 82. Same history there, as well.

Fact of the matter is, I've had more Warranty work done on S&W revolvers than any other brand. One, a Model 625-3 broke the hand mechanism on the FIRST shot. Another, a new 617 locked up so badly that a gunsmith had to get the cylinder to open so that it could be emptied for return. They replaced the gun, THAT was how crappy their QC was.

In today's environment of panic buying, those cocked barrels, gritty triggers, and poor finishes seem to be equally spread among ALL revolver manufacturers, as they scramble to get guns to market.

Because of this, I'd suggest that a careful examination of any new gun is more common sense for ALL brands.

July 6, 2014, 10:50 AM
I had an 85UL about six or eight years ago. I replaced the boot grip with a Hogue and it shot well. I could actually shoot it better than the S&W model 60-9 I had. Once I got a trigger job on the 60-9, they were about equal. The 85UL carried pretty well. I ended up trading the 85UL as part of a deal for a beater S&W 19-4.

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