Are you using locktite on your rings?


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SIGarmed
December 29, 2002, 11:45 PM
Do you use locktite on the hex screws of your rifle rings? Should the blue locktite do?

Also whats the best way to level a red dot scope? Unlike crosshairs its hard to know if the dot is exactly level.

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Soap
December 30, 2002, 12:31 AM
I use Loctite Blue on my mounts. If you use everything stronger you may as well just put saltwater on the screw!

I would level the Red Dot by putting only the lower part of the ring on the base, measure the level the flat part. Then level out the scope (using the flat part of the adjustment turret) accordingly. I've done this with a few rifles and each time my mounting gets more accurate and solid.

V-fib
December 30, 2002, 02:55 AM
Yes it works great!

Wildalaska
December 30, 2002, 03:31 AM
Whooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...hold on there guys!

Locktite your bases....but never loctite the rings!! No No No.....!!!

Jmurman
December 30, 2002, 06:53 AM
Originally posted by Wildalaska
Whooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...hold on there guys!

Locktite your bases....but never loctite the rings!! No No No.....!!!

correct...base only

GeneS
December 30, 2002, 10:37 AM
Blue Loctite will work. A drop of your wife's clear nail polish will work too.

SIGarmed
December 30, 2002, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by Wildalaska
Whooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...hold on there guys!

Locktite your bases....but never loctite the rings!! No No No.....!!!

I have ARMS rings that have an upper and a lower part. So your saying not to loctite the screws that hold the two parts together.

Wildalaska
December 30, 2002, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by SIGarmed
I have ARMS rings that have an upper and a lower part. So your saying not to loctite the screws that hold the two parts together.

Absolutely! There is no need for it whatsoever.

Jmurman
December 30, 2002, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by SIGarmed
I have ARMS rings that have an upper and a lower part. So your saying not to loctite the screws that hold the two parts together.

The base is what you need to really secure. Don't use red loctite. The blue stuff is called Guntite.

444
December 30, 2002, 07:07 PM
Leupold not only recommends against threadlockers, they advise you to put oil on the screws.

SIGarmed
December 31, 2002, 11:52 PM
Thanks for the tips folks. :)

cratz2
January 1, 2003, 08:11 PM
For rings, I've always used a drop of CLP. I don't think I've ever had one come loose.

stans
January 2, 2003, 08:04 AM
Use of a lubricant on the treads of any screw or bolt reduces friction and simply allows you to develop full torque on the threads. This will usually provide enough torque to prevent a screw from backing out. Consider this: automotive engine builders do not use thread locking compounds during engine assembly, they use light oil or an anti-seizing compound.

444
January 2, 2003, 08:30 AM
I agree, however, you don't need to torque down these screws much. By the way, the reason I know this is because after reading a similar thread years ago, instead of getting a lot of personal opinion, I simply called Leupold and asked them. The first person that answered the phone knew all the answers to my questions, so appearently they get a lot of calls on this stuff. Overtorqueing the screws will smash the scope tube, which is bad. I don't remember how many inch pounds of torque you need, but it isn't much.

Soap
January 2, 2003, 12:13 PM
I'm curious why some are advising not to Loctite rings. I never did until one day I was doing some varmint hunting with my deer rifle and I noticed that the rings were loose. Then from that day on I put a tiny bit of Loctite Blue to ensure that the rings wouldn't come loose. I've never had a problem disassembling the rings after using Blue either.

444
January 2, 2003, 06:18 PM
"I'm curious why some are advising not to Loctite rings. "

I always did locktite my rings, but then I called Leupold. They told me not to. I figured that they might know what they were talking about. Not to put anyone down, not to be a smart butt, but I believed the manufacturer of the rings rather than hersey on the internet or the advice of the gun store commandos.

No4Mk1
January 2, 2003, 06:32 PM
Not to put anyone down, not to be a smart butt, but I believed the manufacturer of the rings rather than hersey on the internet or the advice of the gun store commandos.

Well, I also don't believe everything I read on the internet or hear from a clerk at a gunstore, but I also don't believe everything a manufacturer tells me.... They generally have an alterior motive that may not intersect with your best interest.

I have no reason to believe that to be the case here, just saying I am about as sceptical of what they would tell me as I would be of random internet input....

Having said all that, I had a scope that would not hold zero for anything UNTIL I put blue Loctite on the rings. Now it is solid as a rock.

YMMV.

Lee.:D

444
January 2, 2003, 06:52 PM
Ok, I can buy that in some cases, but I can't see any reason why Leupold would not want your rings to be tight or their scopes to come loose all the time.
When I called, the first person that answered the phone knew the answers to my questions immediately. So many inch pounds of torque, oil the threads etc. I followed their advice with perhaps a half dozen or possibly ten rifles. I have not had one of them come loose. The biggest is either a .338 Win Mag, or a .444 Marlin. Rings are still perfectly tight. The recoil on the .444 Marlin destroyed two Lyman receiver sights, but hasn't loosened my scope rings yet. So, I believed them to begin with, and it has proven itself in practice. YMMV

Bottom Gun
January 7, 2003, 09:36 AM
Base - yes
rings - no

Flash Hole
January 7, 2003, 10:41 AM
Base-Yes
Rings-Yes
If your rings have ever come loose on a hunting trip,
you'll locktite them the next time out.
One less thing to worry about.
JOHN

larryw
January 10, 2003, 10:48 PM
Rings and bases here too. It only took one loose scope to make me a believer. :cuss:

Oh, and I used LokTite when building race engines many (many) moons ago. It only took one rod bolt working loose at 10KRMP to make me a believer. :what: :banghead:

atek3
May 10, 2008, 12:53 PM
I couldn't hit squat with my AR-15 w/ an aimpoint M2 and LT-129 base... then I found that the rings had loosened up and the aimpoint was sliding freely in the rings. I tightened the screws but is there anyway to ensure it doesn't happen again?

That would be bad if I ever 'needed' my ar

atek3
May 10, 2008, 01:02 PM
never mind

http://216.23.214.70/instructions/aimpoint_instruct.htm

black bear
May 11, 2008, 02:06 PM
Yes, I use blue loctite.
Very important in air piston rifles that have a lot of vibration.

BB

Funderb
May 11, 2008, 02:16 PM
all of the base screws, absolutely. you have to loctite the barrel into the receiver on the m44s!

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