What's your favorite 9mm handgun & why?


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garrettwc
December 29, 2002, 11:46 PM
More guns are offered worldwide in this caliber than any other that I can think of. If you could only have one, which would it be, make & model. And why is it your choice?

I'll start. My current favorite is the Browning P35Hi Power.

Reasons, it fits my hand well, is 100% reliable, all the controls are similar to my 1911s.

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Neal Bloom
December 29, 2002, 11:50 PM
My BHP does feel nice in the hand but my SIG 225 shoots a whole lot better. Thats what makes it my favorite.

makarov
December 29, 2002, 11:51 PM
Its gotta be a CZ-75. For me they just feel rightl. More carry options than an HP ( which I like as well ). I think the CZ's are more accurate out of the box than just about any other 9mm with the exception of megabuck guns like the SIG 210. My next purchase is going to be a CZ-75!

emann
December 29, 2002, 11:51 PM
I really like my new XD. Of course it's a .357 Sig not a 9mm so I can't really vouch for that one.

Snowman92D
December 29, 2002, 11:51 PM
I'm a career LEO and my agency requires DAO handguns. I have a S&W Model 5946 and a Model 92D Beretta. I like 'em because they closely duplicate the DA revolvers I started out carrying. Both are accurate and super-reliable.

Sactown
December 30, 2002, 12:05 AM
My Sig P225 is my favorite 9mm. Fits my hand like a glove, shoots accurate, smooth DA/SA, and reliable.

10-Ring
December 30, 2002, 12:13 AM
Current favorite 9 mm handgun is my USP 9 w/ match trigger because it has been 100% reliable, has been very accurate & is a lot of fun to shoot.

Now depending on when you ask or when I read this thread again, my answer could include my Beretta 92 Centurion or my HK P7M8.

Bushrat
December 30, 2002, 12:15 AM
My favorite is the Glock (any caliber). It sits in my hand so naturally, and I shoot it better than any other semiauto I've ever had the pleasure of snapping a cap with. It is also the most reliable handgun I've ever known. And it is simplicity itself.

Daryl
December 30, 2002, 12:18 AM
For me it is the Ingles Mk1 Browning high Power. I do like my WW2 stuff. Of course the P38 is a fine hand gun also.;)

Stephen A. Camp
December 30, 2002, 12:20 AM
Hello. Well, if I could only have one 9mm pistol, it would be my current favorite general purpose 9mm, a Browning HP. I'm not at all sure which BHP it would be, though! I have a couple and like them all quite a lot.

The reasons are:

1. The feel is "right" for me.

2. The ones I have will group well with loads they "like."

3. They are reliable.

4. I can hit with them in either slow-fire or at speed.

5. They just plain have a sort of panache about them.

Best.

Jeff OTMG
December 30, 2002, 12:22 AM
Depends on what for. My favorite 9mm for shooting is a SIG P210, now that I had a beavertail welded up to keep it from drawing blood. My favorite to carry is a Kahr P9 Covert or MK9. My favorite to show off is a SIG P226 Sport or Browning GP Comp because a lot of people have not seen them.

Schuey2002
December 30, 2002, 12:24 AM
If I could only have one...

It would be a HKP7M13. They are just so uber-cool looking.

Of all the 9mm's that I currently own, my newest Glock 19 would fill the "favorite" bill quite nicely. I think that Bushrat just did a great job of summing up my feelings about this gun. It must be a Glock thing. :D

beemerb
December 30, 2002, 12:27 AM
Another vote for the browning hi power.It fits me and never jams
Bob

TomV
December 30, 2002, 12:36 AM
Beretta Elite .... just feels right and never fails.

sm
December 30, 2002, 12:41 AM
I like the BHP
Feels right.
Classic design
pointability

Niche gun -the Keltec P-11, simply for what it is,nothing more, nothing less

Wildalaska
December 30, 2002, 12:54 AM
BHP! The King of Pistols....

Blackhawk
December 30, 2002, 12:55 AM
It's my particular Kel Tec P-11.

I've modified the trigger to have a 6.5# pull, 0.55" travel measured from the center, and with trigger travel beginning in the middle of the guard and ending just short of the grip. Consequently, it's a perfect DAO trigger, IMO.

The gun is totally reliable and a lot of fun to shoot especially when outshooting the high dollar gun owners who snicker when I bring it out. :)

Really, my only uses for a handgun are SD and HD. I don't compete and the M1991A1 gets boring after a while since I don't compete or carry it.

Since I'm totally comfortable with the P-11, and it's comfortable to carry, it would be have the top shot at being my favorite 9 anyway. To clinch it, I had more fun modifying it than I thought possible, so why wouldn't it be the fav?

WESHOOT2
December 30, 2002, 12:56 AM
My (first) Witness has been tweaked; it fits me. It displays awesome accuracy (thank you Nowlin and Mr. Cogan).
It has been uncannily reliable (it always works if the round fits the chamber) in over 25,000 attempts to make it fail. It has digested some truly stupid test loads.
It is flat perfect


for me.

agony
December 30, 2002, 01:04 AM
Toss up between the SIG P228 and P226, although that means I have to give up the Kahr also. :(

Mike Irwin
December 30, 2002, 01:04 AM
Toss up between my Kahr K9 and my Browning Hi Power.

They fit my hand very well, and are a LOT of fun to shoot.

standingbear
December 30, 2002, 01:06 AM
beretta 92g "elite" model.i shot both the sig 226 and this beretta.beretta shot just as accuratly at a cheaper purchase price.

dave
December 30, 2002, 05:38 AM
My Glock 19 has always handled any task asked of it. I know there are higher priced guns out there but the G19 works for me. It is a quality firearm, as are most out there today. I shoot well with it and it fires every time I pull the trigger. What more does one need?

Truth be known, I think one would be well served with any of the modern well made 9mms on the market. As long as one stays away from the "junk" guns everything should be fine.

ruger357
December 30, 2002, 06:39 AM
Glock 26 because it is compact and accurate.

berettaman
December 30, 2002, 06:41 AM
I would have to go with any of my Beretta 92's.Reliability sold me years ago on them.They will eat anything you feed them and they just go bang everytime.They fit my hand very well and I'm a larger person(6'6"-200lbs) so the weight and size are not an issue.Like myself they are very sexy with classic lines and chicks dig guys that have sexy guns.:rolleyes:

Well hey you did ask!:D

Kahr carrier
December 30, 2002, 06:41 AM
HK P-7 :)

Don45cal
December 30, 2002, 06:44 AM
I had Les Baer build me this. It is blue over hard chrome and a shoots 100 times better than I do. It is a pleasure to hold and shoot!!

2dogs
December 30, 2002, 08:11 AM
Beretta M9 (civilian version). 15 rounds, and it has never failed me. Also easy to field strip and clean.

It is a fine looking firearm.

telewinz
December 30, 2002, 08:14 AM
The High Power! Although right now I've got the FEG clone. The FN is nice and I've owned several in the past but the FEG is just as nice at 1/3 the price! The blueing on the FEG is better than any FN I owned!

tlhelmer
December 30, 2002, 08:23 AM
Beretta 92-G

Greg G
December 30, 2002, 08:24 AM
HK P9S

Pilot
December 30, 2002, 09:46 AM
The Browning Hi Power is my favorite 9MM. But the HK P7M8 and CZ-75 are close seconds.

WhoKnowsWho
December 30, 2002, 10:09 AM
I only have a Sig P225 in 9mm so it is currently my favorite. I liked how the USP Compact in 9mm felt... but I think I still prefer my Sig.

NINEX19
December 30, 2002, 10:46 AM
There are many who will disagree with what I think is one of the finest 9mm made. My choice would have to be the Beretta 92FS.

My second choice would be a CZ75 PCR. This gun has a nice balance of quality, size (compactness), price, functionality, and reliability.

Ted Bell
December 30, 2002, 11:10 AM
I love my P7M8 because it is very accurate and I like its manual of arms. However, I am intrigued by all the positive comments regarding the CZ 75 and am looking to pick one up.

Orion
December 30, 2002, 11:40 AM
I'm very fond of my Browning Hi Powers but I like my SIG pistols too. I tried a Walther P99 and it felt pretty good as well. I've got a P7M13 that is a great gun to carry but isn't my favorite by far.

I'd have to say my favorite 9mm is the BHP.

45R
December 30, 2002, 12:28 PM
My FAVORITE 9mm would have to be my Walther P99. The Beretta 92FS was my first love, but the P99 has been nothing but 100 reliable in my hands. Shoots and feeds everything I put through it and I love the trigger. This gun feels like an extension on my hand. Its a great way to reach out and touch paper at 25 yards.

:)


45R

Bob C
December 30, 2002, 12:39 PM
Very close, but I slightly prefer the BHP over the CZ75.

Both are accurate and relaible with preferred ammo, but the BHP's of my experience "prefer" most anything.

Subjective feel is also an edge to the BHP IMHO, and the BHP is slightly more compact.

Tamara
December 30, 2002, 12:42 PM
Does 9x32R count?

If so, then the 3" M13/65.

If not, then the P7M8.

:D

LeadPumper
December 30, 2002, 12:45 PM
Best I've done with is a Glock 19c. Loved the way it handled on the range, acurate and reliable.

Chose a Ruger P95 for myself. Still working on that darn trigger.

-LeadPumper

Med 10
December 30, 2002, 12:53 PM
Glock 17 gets my vote.

Nanook
December 30, 2002, 12:59 PM
Browning High Power followed closely by Beretta 92FS. I actually shoot better with the BHP for some reason. The Beretta has fed everything bullet type I've put into it with no problems.
Years ago, I had a P7 but foolishly sold it. I've regretted it ever since.

Jack T.
December 30, 2002, 01:02 PM
Glock 17. 17 round mag, +2's with one in the pipe = 20 rounds in a light, fun handgun :cool:

Lotzinger
December 30, 2002, 01:08 PM
HK P7 M13
me and my P7 - true love ...

quick
reliable
small
stylish

*** to be continued ***

thisaway
December 30, 2002, 01:37 PM
My favorite is my Glock 19, because it's sorta small. But I also really like my P226 and 92 FS also.

stevec
December 30, 2002, 01:38 PM
For me, the BHP is tops. Second would be a CZ-75SA. The CZ-75SA might actually shoot better for me, but it is slightly clunkier than the BHP.

I've been thinking that a 9mm 1911 would probably get pretty far up on my list of favorites.

Steve

bigmtnman
December 30, 2002, 01:43 PM
I currently own three 9mm's. CZ75B, CZ Compact PCR, and a
Walther P99. The P99 fits the best and seems better balanced
to me - and I shoot it the most accurately.

AndABeer
December 30, 2002, 02:49 PM
A tie between P99 and S&W 5926. Both are reliable, accurate, and have decent triggers.

farscott
December 30, 2002, 02:55 PM
I only have one 9mm handgun, so I guess my 3" S&W 547 is my favorite. It is an interesting cross between .38 Special recoil and .357 Mag power.

NEon
December 30, 2002, 03:28 PM
Walther P88 full size. Totally ambi, and functions flawlessly. Had it for ten years (or about) and never a malfunction.

chaim
December 30, 2002, 03:56 PM
CZ 75B (what a shock). It is very reliable, highly accurate, very well made, has great fit and finish, could be the picture in the dictionary for ergonomics (fits most hands extremely well), is a DA/SA gun that can be carried in condition one and it is inexpensive. This gun does more things well than just about any other gun I've ever had the pleasure to own or shoot.

GeorgeAtl
December 30, 2002, 04:25 PM
My favorite 9mm in the bag is my HS-2000. A very natural pointer, and the most accurate gun I have.

My Glock 19 is probably #2. Haven't shot the "New" G-17 enough yet to have an opinion on it.

Zak Smith
December 30, 2002, 04:32 PM
My CZ-75B-SA, with trigger job. Great trigger, soaks up the recoil, even with +P loads, and it is "one-hole" accurate at handgun ranges.

We'll see if my custom BHP surpases it when it comes back from the 'smith in a few months.

-z

Dr.Rob
December 30, 2002, 04:35 PM
BHP or suitable clone.

Good accuracy, excellent reliability, similar controls to a 1911, skinny for a hi-cap, skinny slide, easy to find magazines, good ergonomics.

Pretty much sums it up for me.

JeepDriver
December 30, 2002, 05:48 PM
Favorite 9mm?

I have 3. A Ruger P95, Sig 239 and a Hi-Power MK III.

This question is like asking a man which kid is his favorite.

I love all three. The Ruger because it was my first. The Sig because it is so accurate and consealable. The Browning is a classic.

But the Sig is my current favorite. Then again I did just buy the Hi-Power, time will tell

Dave Markowitz
December 30, 2002, 05:57 PM
Browning High Power, more specifically, my BHP Practical.

--Fits me like no other gun.
--Reliable.
--Accurate enough.

Gewehr98
December 30, 2002, 06:04 PM
It just feels perfect in the hand and when shooting. One of, if not THE, original 9mm's. ;)

http://mauser98.com/lugerdoubtfire.jpg

HS/LD
December 30, 2002, 06:27 PM
I have a plethora of 9mms....
which one is the best?

BHP
followed closely by a Tupperware G19

Regards,
HS/LD

Peter M. Eick
December 30, 2002, 06:33 PM
Favorite is my SIG 210-6, but the SIG 210-5 is earning browny points real quick!

LWCmdr45
December 30, 2002, 06:42 PM
My Browning HP Practical for the same reasons you cite.

However, when the Kahr PM9 becomes more available in this area(i.e., when the prices come down!), I may need to change my mind.

Steve

Camshaft
December 30, 2002, 06:43 PM
my first-gen glock 17. accurate and reliable.

triggertime
December 30, 2002, 07:43 PM
It would be a toss up between the CZ-75 and the Browning Hi-Power.

Sean Smith
December 30, 2002, 08:12 PM
I've got both extremes covered... CZ-75B and SIG P210. CZ for a practical weapon and SIG for sheer niceness factor.

DW
December 30, 2002, 08:22 PM
My new favorite is a S&W 3913 TSW (as of last week). It feels great in my hand and is very accurate.

DW

garrettwc
December 30, 2002, 09:45 PM
Well there have been a variety of replies so far, but there are some clear leaders. Here are the results so far for those keeping score:

1st with 21 votes-
Browning HP

Tied for 2nd with 11 votes each-
CZ75
Beretta 92 series
Glock series

Tied for 3rd with 9 votes each -
Sig P22 series
HK P7 series

4th Place Walther - 5 votes
5th place Kahr - 4 votes
6th place S&W - 3 votes

5 way tie for 7th with 2 votes each -
HK USP
Keltec
1911
Ruger
XD9/HS2000

Misc. pistols getting one vote each - 4

Wakal
December 30, 2002, 09:49 PM
Looking at the scores, I'll throw my vote to the SiG P226. Amazing smooth trigger in both double and single action, right out of the box. Comfortable to shoot, accurate, and pretty spiffy looking.

Although my wife's 9 by 23 STI is pretty slick. With some spring swapping, it can run 9 by 19, 9 by 21, 9 by 23, and 38 Supercomp. Need to get a box of 9 by 18 and see if it will handle the baby 9mm too :)



Alex

MLH
December 30, 2002, 09:56 PM
I have a Beretta 9000fs and I love it. Fits like a glove and shoots better than I do.;) I may find something better but not till I catch up with this one. Easy to carry CCW too, and takes high cap. Mags.:cool:

Tom J.
December 30, 2002, 10:12 PM
Another vote for the BHP...for all the reasons already mentioned.
I have two , a '66 T-series , and a '94 FN . These are the only two pistols that I will (probably) never part with .

RonH
December 30, 2002, 10:15 PM
Browning Hi-Power, standard polished blue with fixed sights and Spegel grips. Add a C&S trigger jog and you are all set.

bfoster
December 30, 2002, 10:31 PM
Another vote for the Sig 210.

Bob

faustulus
December 30, 2002, 10:33 PM
I can't pick just one.
BHP and P7 is the closest I can come. Although I love my CZ 75 and my Sigs.

9x19
December 30, 2002, 10:45 PM
Mine is the Glock 34.... it has all the right stuff, right weight, right size, right capacity, right accessories, right trigger pull, it even has the right night sights! It's also accurate and easy to shoot fast and well.

It is, simply stated, The Best Pistol Ever Built!

:D :p :D

556A2
December 31, 2002, 12:49 AM
CZ-75 or BHP, with the Sig P-228 yapping at their heels. The CZ does get a little bit more of a nod due to more options and the price compared to a BHP.

hansolo
December 31, 2002, 01:06 AM
Springfield 1911 in 9mm: Stainless, cocobolo grips, soaks-up recoil...beautiful!

CZ 75B: BHP looks, ergonomics at half the price.

Hi-Point: Cheap, but a great "throw-down" pistol!:uhoh:

Fair 'n Square
December 31, 2002, 02:09 AM
Own three 9mm's:
Ruger P89
Ruger P95
Kahr K9

My favorite is the Ruger P95, my latest acquisition. Still testing loads, but so far it likes the Federal 147gr HS. I was shocked to put five out of five into the X ring with it.

duncan
December 31, 2002, 02:17 AM
Hk P7 PSP
1985
Hard chromed
Carried by an Ohio State Trooper before this ole buckeye
irreplaceable

Flying V
December 31, 2002, 03:13 AM
East German Makarov - accuracy, reliability, craftsmanship, history.

Unless 9x18mm doesn't count, in which case it would have to be the "red 9" Broomhandle I stupidly didn't buy at a gunshow about six years ago.

voilsb
December 31, 2002, 03:38 AM
my favorite 9mm is the Beretta 92FS/M9 pistol. reason: it's the only 9mm I've fired.

denfoote
December 31, 2002, 03:57 AM
Mine would be my Kahr MK9 Elite. Because I have gravitated to smaller pistols that I can carry concealed. In full size pistols, it would be my Walther P5. It too is easy to conceal. :cool:

Ala Dan
December 31, 2002, 05:18 AM
SIG-Sauer P228. Stone cold reliable, highly accurate, and craftsmanship at its finest!

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

GhostShooter
December 31, 2002, 06:03 AM
A Llama 9mm. Why, because it works and nobody else likes it.:D

http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/2M16.gif

Sidetracker
December 31, 2002, 08:01 AM
My Springfield Armory XD-9.

Baba Louie
December 31, 2002, 08:27 AM
In order of purchase over the years:
Taurus 99
P-35 (BHP)
Glock 19
P-06/08 (Luger)
Beretta 92
Mauser C-96
Glock 17
Glock 26
CZ-75b

and then I quit buying and started shooting and comparing. The Glock 19/17/26 all point perfectly in my hands and I usually hit that at which I aim :rolleyes: They are... my favorite shooters.

But when I hold the Mauser C-96 and the Lugers, seeing the little pitting (blood?) in the steel, the smooth worn grip panels (no checkering or grooves left, just smooth wood), I know they've been places and seen things I could only imagine in my wildest nightmares. They've been there, they've done that, they don't need to prove anything to anyone. They are... my favorite collector pieces (in 9mm).

The G-26 goes with me everywhere, everyday.

There's not a bad one among them. But so far, no S&W nor nary a Ruger. Am I missing something? Maybe, but I'm content with the few, the good, the proud (where have I heard that?) that I've managed to squirrel away.

The real problem is keeping them all fed.

Adios

sig970
December 31, 2002, 01:11 PM
Beretta 92
Sig P239

Least favorite G17

Roadrunner
December 31, 2002, 01:43 PM
My Sig P226. Why? It was my first handgun and it's a beauty to shoot.

Flash Hole
December 31, 2002, 02:03 PM
BHP
P-35
PJK-9HP

tomkatz
December 31, 2002, 03:39 PM
glocks, 17 and 26...tom

Michael
December 31, 2002, 04:55 PM
BHP -- Hands down the most accurate, ergonomic, reliable 9mm pistol I've ever owned or shot. 'Nuff said.

Michael

buford1
December 31, 2002, 06:32 PM
This is a tough one. I have the BERETTA- 92FS and a BRIGADIER. I like the style and feel of of the BERETTAS. Guess I like them the most. But the one that I shoot the best is the SIG P228.Something about that wide sighting plane on the SIG.:ar15:

CAP
December 31, 2002, 06:50 PM
No question my Sig P228.
Second would either be my 92Fs or the G26.

incursion
December 31, 2002, 07:23 PM
P7, SIG 210, BHP

okeydoke
December 31, 2002, 08:59 PM
My favorite 9mm, for carry, is a "chopped" Star BM, 6.2" (cocked, with a beavertail frame tang) for front pants pocket carry. My favorite for practice is an alloy Compact version of the 1911, because of the low cost of practice ammo, and because it handles so much like the .45 belt gun. I see no reason to settle for the 400 ft lbs of energythat a 9mm has, in a belt gun, when it's perfectly feasible to have a controlable gun that offers 800 ft lbs.

4v50 Gary
December 31, 2002, 09:22 PM
Browning Hi-Power. Initially designed by God's prophet on earth, Moses, John Moses Browning.

Second choice, CZ-75. Almost feels as good as the Browning and it has a trigger that rivals the Colt Python - almost.

PATH
December 31, 2002, 09:35 PM
Walther P5. I shooot best with this gun!

Robby from Long Island
December 31, 2002, 10:03 PM
My Beretta 92FS. Has never failed to go bang when it's suppose to in the last 12 years.

Safe shooting.

SouthpawShootr
December 31, 2002, 10:23 PM
Up until last week, I would have said a Glock 19. Now I'm convinced that it is a Sig 229 9mm. Fits my hand just perfect. Awesome double action trigger and very accurate. The factory 10 round mags suck. Surprisingly, I have 3 Sig 228 Promags that functioned 100% (and I thought all ProMags were crap).

RangerGrant
January 1, 2003, 12:42 AM
No question about it, the Browning Hi Power.

Happy New Year, best RG

BILLG
January 1, 2003, 11:19 AM
Beretta 92 Elite II BILLG

sonoranjack
January 2, 2003, 06:26 PM
Right now it's my second gen Glock 17. Of course I would like to replace it w/ a third gen (finger groves) Glock 17. But I've never fired a BHP.

Gary A
January 2, 2003, 08:37 PM
I probably have not shot enough different 9mm handguns to say for sure and certainly haven't owned them all but considering all factors I'd have to put the Browning Hi-Power at the top with the CZ-75 running hard on its heels. The P7 is slick, slick, slick but just different enough for me not to pick it. Having listed some classics, I have to add that the Ruger P95 is very high on my list. The Timex of handguns. The Jeep of pistols. Does everything it is supposed to do without fuss, complaint, drama, or question. But the Hi-Power stands alone at the top of the hill. Oops, you asked why...combination of looks, history, all-steel construction, balance, length of barrel, enough capacity, single-action trigger, feel in the hand, slimness of slide, etc. YMMV

Safety First
January 2, 2003, 09:00 PM
Looks like Sig is popular..My choice was the sig p239 9mm, it is light weight and narrow conceals well. It fits my hand like a glove and backed by one of the best handgun manufactures.. I feel confident that if the gun were needed it will perform for me. Confidence goes a long way when you are talking about something that may save your life some day...saving a few dollars on a cheap gun just isn't prudent...

enfwago
January 2, 2003, 09:05 PM
My 3rd Gen G19 because it fits my hand really nice, is durable and accurate plus I like the finger grooves.

Mastrogiacomo
January 2, 2003, 09:14 PM
Beretta, Beretta Beretta...:D :D :D Love the 9 mm. It's cheap to shoot, easy on the hands and with the Beretta -- very sexy Italian gun!

mikey357
January 2, 2003, 10:46 PM
MY favorite 9mm handgun has got to be my mid-70's BHP...it just exudes CLASS...honorable mention would go to Mrs. 3-5-7's CZ-75 and to my S&W Model 915...yeah, the "Value Series" double-stack...one of only TWO autopistols I own that has NEVER had a "jam"...almost 4,000 rounds and still ticking....mikey357

longeyes
January 2, 2003, 10:51 PM
My Glock 26 for its power to size/weight ratio. And that's without mentioning its reliability. A LOT of mojo in a very small package.

cratz2
January 2, 2003, 10:56 PM
Taurus PT99AF. Would like Langdon to do some trigger work and mayeb polish the rails a bit to smooth the action out but it has absolutely never ever failed and I've probably put more rounds through it than any other handgun I own.

If my EAA Witness Silver Team was a 9mm my answer would be different. ;)

modifiedbrowning
January 3, 2003, 05:27 AM
Walther P88 fullsize, because it is so accurate. Next is the P99, which I trust as well as the P88.

jrpeterman
January 4, 2003, 11:32 PM
It would be the Glock-19. Fit, feel, reliability, and decent accuracy.

P95Carry
January 5, 2003, 12:14 AM
Oh my ... what a thread!! Well . yeah SIG is well up there but overall browsing thru I'd say BHP has it!! Only noticed a couple or so mentioning P95 ... my usual carry piece. I have become used to this gun ... altho initially the ''feel'' of trigger from D/A to S/A was a tad offputting ....... but, it does point well, and, it is a bit lighter (if fatter).

However . in fact I am probably in the BHP category cos I do like that for both it's slimness and the shere reliability. I used to have the real deal way back ....... shot 1,000's of rounds thru that but ... now am relegated to a FEG.. Gotta say tho it is an excellent value piece and apart from practice useage, it does not get ''thrashed'' .... sometimes carry that to decrease the ''bulk factor'' ....... both go into sho rigs.

nascarnhlnra
January 5, 2003, 08:47 AM
My current favorite 9mm is also my C.C.W. and is a S&W CS9 very accurate for such a small package, handles nice, conceals well,handles hot defensive loads without becoming repulsive.:cool:

Admiral Thrawn
January 5, 2003, 09:31 AM
Glock 17, 3rd Gen.

Easy to shoot accurately, lightweight, high capacity, reliable, durable and simple in operation.

Hey, btw, do the 1st and 2nd gen. Glocks have a pistol lanyard hole?

Scott13
January 6, 2003, 04:00 AM
For me it's the Beretta 92f , imo they are about the nicest looking
9mm pistol . Their also very reliable , accurate to shoot , and shoot smooth . And capable of holding 15 rounds . All these things make the Beretta 92 my favorite :)

Hand_Rifle_Guy
January 6, 2003, 09:49 AM
My favorite 9mm is my Astra 600.

Forwhy is primarily because it's the ONLY 9 x 19 I've got.

BUT...

It has a fixed barrel. and is therefore VERY accurate. One of the most accurate autos I own. I like to shoot it at 100 yards. I can harrass a 2-litre bottle right well at that range.

It has some very strange lines, and I really like odd-looking guns.

Very solid and durable. Nice trigger. 100% reliable. (With ball, that is.)

Practice ammo's cheap. Fun plinker.

Smooth exterior. Pockets well, for a full-size pistol.

Grooved, tubular-configuration slide, combined with a very steep grip angle a lot like a CZ-52, makes this gun an EXCELLENT point shooter. Held in one hand and extended far enough out to see in your peripheral vision, the lines and shape of the slide give an exceptional visual reference to where the gun points without requiring the sights. I can get about 7 out of 8 on an empty oil jug at forty or fifty feet with surprising regularity.

Cheap for what it is, a full-size/power service gun originally ordered by the Nazis after their exposure to the Astra 400, most were never delivered. Good examples sell for under $200, usually, with fine bores and minimal wear.

Lots of dis-advantages, though. Blow-back action in a full power 9mm makes for a recoil spring that would do justice to a garage door. It also has a stout hammer spring. This makes racking the slide REALLY tough. I can't do it with a pinch grip without squeezing hard enough to hurt. I usually have to grasp the top of the slide from above to get enough grip/leverage.

The mag release is a Euro-heel clip that's been turned 90 degrees. You press on the SIDE of the grip to remove the mag. Odd.

The grip angle is not conducive to two-handed shooting. Many of my friends have a tendency to shoot the ground 20 feet in front of themselves when aiming at a dirtbank 40 yards away. Shoot it one-handed, after you get used to it, and you're home free.

Heavy for caliber. The slide's a full quarter-inch thick for two-thirds of it's length. Can you say robust? ;)

Difficult take-down for fieldstripping. Get a .50 A.E. empty case to depress the front collar, and it's not so bad.

Parts are mail-order specials.

Shoot 200 rounds through it in a day, and it'll make your hand tingle. Sharp blow-back recoil, you see. Stopping that heavy slide against the frame is a substantial whack. It'll tire you out, too.

Odd features, not neccesarily bad, are a magazine safety and a grip safety in addition to the manual safety. It's a hammered hammerless, like a Colt 1903. It's got a lanyard loop, and it's held together with these odd pins that are "L"-shaped. Very strange appearance. Most people think it's ugly, and call it "the Plumbers Nightmare". I regard it as character.

I think it's an ugly duckling and highly under-rated. These things are BUILT, being made entirely from milled parts. The Count of Campo-Giro had a good thing going when he designed this gun. I suspect they would be too expensive to produce these days, much like John Browning's Model 8/81 Remington long-action self-loading rifle.I'm going to get a 400 as soon as I find one at a good price. 9mm Largo in a blow-back action ought to make it fun to shoot, also.

cz4me
January 6, 2003, 10:27 AM
1ST. choice = CZ75B. With Houge[spelling??] wrap around grips it is an absolute joy to shoot, and very accurate right out of the box. :D 2ND. choice is a toss up between the SIG and the BHP, IMHO. :scrutiny:

Zark-9
January 7, 2003, 11:09 PM
My XD-9. Because I love to shoot it. :D :D :D

HeadCleaver
January 8, 2003, 11:36 AM
BHP and the G19 because they are comfortable and I shoot them well. Reliable, simple and accurate.

New_comer
January 8, 2003, 08:47 PM
My USP9F rocks!! :D:D:D

3,000 rnds and counting, with no hiccups whatsoever, including LEAD!!! :D:D:D

My carry gun, too! though it takes a little bit of creativity to CCW properly.. ;)

wanderinwalker
January 8, 2003, 09:01 PM
Let me first think of all of the 9mms I've shot.

1) S&W 39
2) Taurus PT-99
3) Walther P-990
4) Beretta 92FS
5) DWM Luger P.08
6) Glock 19 2nd Gen
7) Glock 17 3rd Gen
8) Glock 26
9) Walther P-88
10) Kel-Tec P-11
11) S&W 3913

So far, my favorites are definitely the Glocks. They feel like they are naturally better suited to my shooting style. Plus I favor the short reset of the trigger and the grip angle. Not to mention the fact that it is the pistol I shoot best under the clock. So.. vote me for the Glock! :D

Island Beretta
January 8, 2003, 09:47 PM
This is a tough one!!!!:banghead: It is a toss up between the BHP, the CZ 75 Classic and the Beretta 92FS. I am going to give the Beretta a slight edge because it performs just as well as the others but may be a bit more reliable!! But :banghead: it is a tough choice..

Glocks are a 2nd tier consideration because they are so light and simple!! They are also capable of outstanding accuracy if the shooter 'solves the trigger' riddle..

Sheslinger
January 8, 2003, 11:55 PM
Truly the most comfortable handgun I have ever held. Shoots better than I am capable of, too.

Sheslinger

Prof
January 9, 2003, 06:28 PM
Browning HP - fits my hand beautifully, aims naturally, etc.

Eamonn Wright
January 9, 2003, 07:12 PM
Sig P228. My one and only choice.

mtarnold5
January 9, 2003, 09:41 PM
my favorite is my cz85 combat. i think it may soon be a pcr i will be getting next week.

Will Fennell
January 10, 2003, 12:30 AM
The BERETTA VERTEC is at the top of my list...and I don't even like 9mm's:rolleyes: But the damn thing is soooo easy to shoot, and soooo reliable....whats not to luv.

slh02
January 10, 2003, 02:18 AM
Would have to go with the p99 on this one. Out of all the 9mm pistols that I have fired, the p99 is the one that I own. A very close second would be the 92fs INOX. The only reason I didnt choose that as the first is that my hands are too small to reach the controls (although my hands to grip the gun itself very well). I have no problems with the p99 though. It truly is in a class of its own.:)

M58
January 10, 2003, 04:43 AM
M547

juju
January 10, 2003, 12:39 PM
either my BHP or my CZ-75B. right now it would probably be my... i don't know. both are great

dude
January 10, 2003, 01:22 PM
P7................not only my only 9, but my only auto

why- well I could not see the point in owning any others!






I did however have short fling with a Baby Eagle Compact but I quickly got over it

Marshall
January 11, 2003, 12:41 AM
BHP, cause it's the only 9mm I have. :neener:

RON in PA
January 11, 2003, 12:47 AM
My Browning Hi-Power. Nothing feels so good. Glock 17 is runner-up.

CAP
January 25, 2003, 09:04 PM
Sig P228
Beretta 92FS
Glock 26

Viking6
January 27, 2003, 01:26 PM
My favorite is my S&W 459 that I've had for maybe 17 years. It has never jammed on any type of round to date. It's by no means perfect but I like it and over the years it gets cycled through as a carry gun quite often.

Skunkabilly
January 27, 2003, 04:14 PM
Beretta 92G Elite II.

Has the most personality.

duncan
January 27, 2003, 06:00 PM
My HK P7 PSP
Hardchromed
Ashley Outdoors Big Dot Tritium Sights
Sweet
Sub 2" groups 25 yards offhand

Alan Fud
January 29, 2003, 11:47 PM
Another vote for the 3913TSW ... http://fud-files.netfirms.com/image/private/guns/f08.jpg

T.Stahl
January 30, 2003, 03:07 AM
Glock 17L. Does everything it has to do for me, static competitive shooting and home defence. Both the gun and accessories/mags are cheap, good pointability, sufficient accuracy, trigger is ok. I have to get some better sights though.

cz75bdneos22
January 30, 2003, 03:17 AM
cz 75 bd looks, reliable, inexpensive and fits my hand well..:neener:

sixgun_symphony
January 30, 2003, 03:34 AM
I like the CZ 75 for its trigger.

Meowhead
January 30, 2003, 11:03 AM
Sig P225
Perfectly dependable. That is all.

Parke1
January 30, 2003, 11:21 AM
Only three votes for the 3913?!? :scrutiny: I am aghast!

I can't get enough of these guns. I have one regular 3913, and one 3914, the matte blue version. I'd have no qualms about picking up a couple more of them, that's for sure. Excellent reliability, accuracy, and a great size to boot.

I love em, just look how sexy they are in the picture! :D

-Parke1

Missouri Mule
January 30, 2003, 01:00 PM
My favorite 9mm "9x19 Para" is my CZ-75B military.
It is accurate, reliable, reasonably priced, it fits my hand well,
and it is all steel.

To pick a little nit.... My truely favorite 9mm is the "9x18 Mak".
All of the above apply to the Makarov.

:)

Alan Fud
January 30, 2003, 04:30 PM
Parke1: ... I have one regular 3913, and one 3914, the matte blue version. I'd have no qualms about picking up a couple more of them ... You mean like these ... http://fud-files.netfirms.com/image/private/guns/f23.jpg ;)

JPM70535
January 30, 2003, 06:56 PM
If I had to pick a 9MM I would have to go with a S&W 6906. Mine is pre hi-cap magazine ban so each mag holds 12 rounds. Being alloy frame and stainless slide, weight is no problem and the accuracy and reliability are first class.

iI would still rather carry a 45.

Tim Schlosser
January 30, 2003, 09:50 PM
My vote has to go with the Browning Hi-Power. It fits my hand perfectly and I can shoot it very well. I'll always prefer the wheel gun but the BHP is it for semi autos. I've been quite impressed with my exposure to the Beretta in the service, it was totaly reliable even when mistreated.

bad_dad_brad
January 30, 2003, 11:49 PM
My Glock G19. Reliable, accurate, ergonomic, robust, and she fits my hand.

Ryder
February 1, 2003, 04:34 AM
Except one... I've kept the Tec-9.

Laugh all you want but it's always given me excellent service. 1.5" threaded bbl, 36 round mags, it's got the 18" screw-on whatchamacallit which reduces the flash down to about the size of a softball (volley ball otherwise). Hooked up a tactical type web sling that's slicker than snot. Have never had anything break on it but then I only put about 300 rounds a year though it, if that, anymore. Bought it the first year they came out during my college days. I could smell that AW ban a mile off.

She bump fires 8-10 rounds per second if I download the powder. That limits the bolt's blowback for quicker cycling but it's not very dependable in that mode and will FTF between bursts. She handles heavier loads without a hiccup at about half that rate of fire. Sad to say I need a whole 8 hour day to handload enough ammo for 10 minutes of fun on my old single stage press. Which is why I don't get out with it much anymore.

I once hit a two inch target at about 40 yards using the sights and a rest. I can keep em all in the black on paper. I don't require sighted shooting to lay waste to a target though. She's pretty sweet.

Besides all that, cops have a tec9-phobia. I kinda the thought of owning something cops drool over confiscating. :neener:

3 gun
February 1, 2003, 06:13 AM
CZ-75b. After I got one, all the other 9s were expendable.

Boats
February 1, 2003, 12:34 PM
The Beretta 92 Brigadier in inox. No recoil to speak of. Apparent lifetime reliability from the examples I have seen (I will not vouch for the military ones having seen how community property is treated in the Navy). Definitely in the top five of the best looking handguns ever made. Cheapest pre-ban mags going.

Personally, I am waiting to get my paws on a 92 GSD before I get into 9mm again.

Charles S
February 1, 2003, 12:43 PM
garrettwc;

Ditto

My current favorite is the Browning P35Hi Power.

Reasons, it fits my hand well, is 100% reliable, all the controls are similar to my 1911s.

My current carry gun is a Kahr 9mm.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=89531

Charles

coonan357
February 1, 2003, 01:32 PM
don't own any 9mm but if I did I buy one it would have to be a FN Hipower, buddy inherited one from his dad , nice firearm . built in the 70's

Coastey
February 1, 2003, 02:10 PM
Started off in high school shooting my Dad's Walther P-38 9mm. That was 30 years ago. Went through the Wonder-nine phase with the S&W 59, 659, 5906, Beretta 92, BHP, CZ-75...got rid of them all. Picked up a used S&W 3913 and loved it. Just the right size for a 9mm.

CZF
February 1, 2003, 06:17 PM
OF course, you will know my answer. Pre B CZ75!!

Fits like an old style P35 Browning HP but with bigger controls.
100% reliable to this date with any ammo. Smooth DA, dreamy
SA. Found in most any country around the world.. just the perfect pistol for me.

Soap
February 1, 2003, 07:42 PM
I've shot or owned quite a number of 9mm pistols that I've liked:

-Sig 228/226/225
-CZ-75B and PCR
-HK P7M13/P7M8
-Glock 17/19

Sprout
February 1, 2003, 10:07 PM
Another vote for the CZ 75. Great gun!

XavierBreath
February 1, 2003, 11:28 PM
Beretta 92FS. Back in 1990 it was new to me. It is the one handgun I have held on to the longest. I cannot call it my favorite pistol anymore, the USP in .40 has taken that role, and I shoot .40S&W most of the time now, but the old Beretta is a great pistol, and remains the 9mm favorite that I have..

45R
February 2, 2003, 12:10 AM
MY WALTHER P99

Fair 'n Square
February 7, 2003, 01:27 AM
I've been following this thread with some interest. As P95Carry said, not too many mentions of the Ruger P95.

For sure, everyone has their own preference, and for lots of different reasons. My first 9mm handgun was a CZ85, and I sold it within the first month. A friend I went shooting with had a Ruger P89 and I could compare the two. The CZ's trigger was "mushy," while the P89's trigger was nicely crisp. And, although the "feel" of the CZ was good, the P89 with Hogue grips felt just as good, if not better to me. So that's reason I bought my second 9mm, a Ruger P89. I still have that P89, but I like the P95 just a bit better.

Anyway, I had to laugh when I read this post from Chaim on another thread: "My first auto was a Ruger P89 and while it may have been a little more reliable than the CZ I far prefer my CZ. I would take a CZ over a Ruger any day."

To each his own, huh?

JeepDriver
February 7, 2003, 07:51 PM
Alright my favorite 9mm has changed.

I've been shooting my latest addition, a Browning Hi-Power. I am in complete and total love. I just bought 3 factory mags at the gun show, and 3 of the 17 round South African Mags from CDNN. Going shooting tomorrow to test them out. But I've shot 1000+ already through it and have been amazed at how well it shoots. This is my first Hi-Power, I hope it isn't my last.

I'd still grab the Sig 239 for a CCW though.

4 eyed six shooter
February 8, 2003, 01:08 AM
Hands down my Browning Hi Power. It points like it is an extention of your hand, is single action, classic looks, never fails to feed and fire, easy to carry and it was designed by the best.
I have added wood grips, extended slide release, and I milled the slide for melted rear sight and dovetail front sight.
Face it, the gun is dead sexy:D :evil:

Flash Hole
February 8, 2003, 05:22 PM
Browning HP
It fits like an old shoe


JOHN

Carbon_15
February 8, 2003, 07:00 PM
close tie between the SIG 239 adnd Walther P-99....but only because I don't have a HK P7M8

Tacblack
February 8, 2003, 10:33 PM
Eazy my old Taurus pt-92 lock and cock only, shoots anything factory or hand loaded for 12 years now

Artful
February 9, 2003, 12:47 AM
While my Hipower fits my hand very nicely I would have to narrow it down to either SIG 225 or SIG 226 :p
- as I am only allowed one I have to take the 225 for concealment it's better - I'd like night sights & laser option
(I have that on 226 & just got the 225 so we'll see about that part).

:evil:

MCNETT
February 9, 2003, 12:57 AM
My Beretta 92FS. Beautiful and very accurate, also a gift from my father.
-Mike

amprecon
February 12, 2003, 11:34 PM
I haven't shot many 9mm's. I have owned 2, a early production Kahr K9 and a Glock 17. The G17 didn't fit my hand very well and I was never really that accurate with it. However, it was 100% reliability. The Kahr K9 on the other hand fit my hand perfectly and I was dead on accurate with it and for the most part was reliable. I bought a couple boxes of American ammo which it did not like, would not go fully into battery, the G17 however ate it gleefully.
I've seen and held many 9mm pistols, but for the size for caliber, simplicity, lack of switches/levers (ala Glock) feel and accuracy I would have to undoubtedly vote for the new and improved Kahr K9

Calif. Hunter
February 13, 2003, 08:09 PM
Browning Hipower (it just feels right) - I like the looks of the CZ75, too, but that trigger looks like a long reach for a DA.

charleym3
February 14, 2003, 07:20 AM
Beretta 92D. Ultimate simplicity in a point & click interface. 15 round mags are plentiful. The trigger is the same everytime. If I have a misfire a second stike is only a trigger pull away. Big enough to be comforting, and small enough to hide.

Bainx
February 14, 2003, 09:36 PM
P08 Luger. Because it is of such historical value.

Mannlicher
February 15, 2003, 11:45 AM
Browning P-35 HI Power.
I have two in 9mm, a WW II with Nazi naval markings, all matching serial numbers, tangent sights. The other is a commercial model made in 1972. Both are ultra reliable, and very accurate.

The only other 9mm that comes close to pleasing me is my CZ 75 D PCR.

Marshall
February 15, 2003, 04:54 PM
BHP

.45Ruger
February 15, 2003, 06:37 PM
Because I've only owned 3, a Hi-Point, nuff said and a Kel-Tek P11 which was just two small for me to shoot and that Dao trigger was rough. I really like my P95, because it is completly reliable to shoot and I think a good looking gun.

Mako25
February 16, 2003, 10:20 PM
MY BHP was the first gun I bought. It's a great shooter and functions well all of the time, But for me the closest thing to perfect right now is my SIG P225.

Erik
February 18, 2003, 11:39 PM
The venerable BHP. It is classic.

Ian11
February 22, 2003, 04:26 AM
Wow lots of BHP fans here. It was the first handgun I ever bought. It points naturally, feels good in the hand, plenty accurate, and its just simply a classic design. Sold it because I didn't know any better back then.

My current favorite 9mm though is the Sig Sauer P226. Its the most accurate 9mm I ever shot (next to the H&K P7/M8), extremely reliable, and I even like the DA/SA trigger. Okay I'll admit it, the fact that its issued to US Navy Seals has a certain cache I like.:p

Jiml3
February 22, 2003, 11:29 AM
MY favorite is the CZ75 PCR followed by the S&W 6906.

0007
February 22, 2003, 11:38 AM
I'm with you, okeydoke, I like my Star BKM with the magazine disconnect removed, BUT I'd rather have the Star PD...

Litlman
February 22, 2003, 01:59 PM
CZ 75 BD. Like the BHP and the p7-m8. I have the CZ. Now to aquire the other two . Some day.....

isaidme
February 22, 2003, 05:32 PM
The best for me is the hi-power because of its feel in my hand and its factory acurate!My second choise is the G19 because of its reliability and ease of field stripping but is second to me because I prefer single action and I wasnt acurate with it!I only like 9's in which hi-cap mags are avalible!

Alpha752
February 22, 2003, 05:34 PM
I love my Glock 17. It fits my hands perfectly, is 100% reliable, and eats anything I give it. Accurate too. All in all a great pistol.

Stevie-Ray
February 22, 2003, 06:14 PM
Glock 26. Funny, I never wanted a 9mm pistol until I got my CCW. Then it was about all I could think of. The 26 is extremely accurate, incredibly small, and spits out anything I put in it, though now it is on a steady diet of Hydra-shoks. Also had a Taurus Millenium, but sold it in favor of a Kimber CDP. While a decent gun, it didn't compare to the Glock.

.45 ACP is still my favorite caliber, but I now love 9mm also.

garrettwc
February 22, 2003, 06:21 PM
Wow, hard to believe I started this thread two months ago!!

In spite of the 1994 Crime Bill, and inroads by the 357 Sig and 40S&W, it seems the 9mm is not only alive but thriving:cool:

And with the improvements in self defense ammo and lots of available cheap practice ammo, it's going to be around for many years to come.

Looking back through the threads, there are a lot of choices out there for the folks that feel "Nine is fine". I think I'm going to need a bigger safe soon.:uhoh:

QB
February 22, 2003, 08:33 PM
My P 210-6 comes in first. Tied for second are my P220 9mm, Sphinx Police Special & P225

Boats
February 22, 2003, 09:57 PM
I have tabulated votes differently than the last guy. Votes were counted from reading a post where a clear favorite was chosen. Where folks listed more than one favorite, the one listed first got the vote, (the subconcious speaks!). There is no second place winner. Vote went to manufacturer, unless using model type made more sense (1911 & XD).

1911: 2
Astra: 1
Beretta: 21
BHP and Clones: 42
CZ and clones: 17
Glock: 20
H&K: 13
Kahr: 4
Llama: 1
Luger: 2
Mauser (Broomhandle): 1
Ruger: 4
SIG: 22
S&W Auto: 10
S&W Revo: 1
Star: 2
Taurus: 2
Tec-9: 1
Walther: 9
XD/HS2000: 4

norielX
February 24, 2003, 06:01 PM
I bought this gun just to shoot steel, so it's mainly a range gun. I like the 5" barrel (looking to get a 6" G17L barrel later) which gives it the same size as my 1911's. I have a BHP, but the trigger needs a little work. I have my eye on a CZ 75SA in the future, so we'll see how things change then. For now, the cheap ammo, reliability of the Glock, and soft shooting has started me on what I never thought I'd do, and that's collect 9mm's!

fedlaw
February 24, 2003, 08:00 PM
Favorite: Sig P226.
Why: Reliability: 4000+ rds, never a failure to feed, nary a hiccup;
Fit: With Nills grips, it fits my hand(s) perfectly;
Accuracy: It took a lot of fussing, but I am very satisfied with the XPress BigDot sights---group size with this particular gun has never been an issue. (Three years ago, I tried a P226 that had been fitted with a peep sight and was extensively smithed-not much use for carry, but very, very accurate at the range-unfortunately it was not for sale).

GrantLee63
February 24, 2003, 08:51 PM
Because it fits my hand like no other .....

Atticus
February 27, 2003, 09:32 PM
Another vote for the BHP- for all the same reasons already listed. Mine's a practical. With an abundance of high quality $20 - 17rd high caps available it's a hard package to beat.

LeonCarr
March 24, 2003, 10:06 PM
Glock 17. Read the signature.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

Nick96
March 24, 2003, 10:32 PM
Late 1980's Tanfoglio TA-90 (CZ-75 clone - sort of). Why? It's the only 9MM I've ever owned. Cheap to feed and believe it or not, more accurate than most guns I've seen on the range for four time the price. Oh, it's a high cap too, and the all steel frame dampens recoil to the point that you'd almost think you were shooting a .22 (were it not for the bigger bang and bigger chunk of brass that comes flying out of the ejection port).

Dill
March 25, 2003, 09:40 AM
Sig P226

plnkr1234
March 25, 2003, 01:47 PM
Hi Guys,

Great thread. I have owned or have extensive experience with the ASP, Glock 19, S&W 3913, Sig 228, HK P7M8, Sig P210-6, Browning P35, Colt Pocket 9, Walther P5c, Kahr PM9, and most recently a S&W 952-1.

I have to say, my favorite is the one that I have shot the most, carried CCW often, used in a combat pistol course, has been completely reliable, and would count on with my life...the highly underrated S&W 3913. I like it so much, I bought another one NIB to save. I'm also thinking about getting a TSW model.

Best

firestar
March 25, 2003, 04:20 PM
I vote for the Beretta 92.

I love mine even though it has a chunky grip.

doctorj
March 26, 2003, 07:17 PM
Beretta 92FS-- simple to field-strip, easy to clean, haven't found anything that'll jam it.

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