Any "reduced recoil" .44 Rem Mag for S&W 629 Mountain Gun?


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deuce20
December 30, 2002, 11:19 AM
I've found commercial .44 Specials with approximately 325-450 ft-lbs muzzle energy (ME) and .44 Rem Mag from the Big Three (Rem, Fed, Win) with 725 to over 1,000 ft-lbs ME. I don't care for the performance of .44 Special, which is on-par price-wise with the .44 Rem Mag. Unfortunately for me, even the 740 ft-lb Federal .44 Rem Mag (C44A) is a bit much during extended range work.

Are there any commercial "reduced recoil" .44 Rem Mag loads in the 600-650 ft-lb ME range?

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WESHOOT2
December 30, 2002, 11:35 AM
How much money you got?

Preacherman
December 30, 2002, 12:29 PM
There are a number of loads like this out there, depending on what your application is. For defensive use, Cor-Bon make a 180gr. and 165gr. JHP in the 1200-1300 fps range, which is a mild load for .44 Magnum. I think Buffalo Bore make some hot .44 Specials that are in the same ballpark, although with LSWC bullets. I seem to recall Pro-Load and Georgia Arms also producing similar stuff - you'd have to check with them.

Bob C
December 30, 2002, 01:43 PM
W/W 210 grain Silvertips are are noticeably easier to control than most .44 Mag. factory loads, but are still obviously not .44 Specials when you fire them.

Your best bet may be to either reload yourself, or go to a custom commercial source, such as WESHOOT2 ( see above).

Al Thompson
December 30, 2002, 02:20 PM
What are you planning to use it for?

I enjoy shooting Georgia Arms 1100 fps 240 gr lead SWC ammo. It's about 14.00 dollars per 50. I too have a Mountain Gun.

Marko Kloos
December 30, 2002, 03:03 PM
Triton makes a .44 Magnum "Lite".

444
December 30, 2002, 04:32 PM
I am sure you knew you were setting yourself up for this but I can't resist. This is a very good reason to handload. You can tailer your loads to what you want to do with the gun. You can make a cannon into a peashooter when ever you want. I own three .44 Mags. A S&W Model 29 4", A S&W Model 629 3", and a Ruger Super Blackhawk 7 1/2". I really enjoy owning S&W revolvers. I buy them for looks and pride of ownership. Dont' get me wrong, I shoot them, but I shoot very sedate loads and would never thing of putting them in a holster. On the other hand, my Ruger will take just about all the punishment I want to dish out, so that is the gun that gets the real blockbuster loads. My faviorite mild load for the Smiths is 15 grains of 2400 with a 240 grain cast bullet. I load it in a .44 Special case so that I can easily tell that it was a load I intended for use in the Smith. Obviously I also know that if I have a load in a .44 Mag case, it is a hot load intended for use in the Ruger. This .44 Special load is not exactly mild, it is a fairly hot .44 Special load, but below the minimum load for a .44 Mag.

VictorLouis
December 30, 2002, 05:09 PM
are all I can stand in my MG. Those are best used with some sort of rubber stocks in place. With wood, most any .44 Special is more than tolerable.:)

Just a thought, but how hot is Silvertip .44 Magnum? Their Specials are on the light side, so I just wonder if that carries over to the maggies.

deuce20
December 30, 2002, 05:39 PM
I'm going to try a bunch of the suggestions above.

WESHOOT2: I see what you mean regarding $$$.

Mr. Preacherman: I placed an order for 200 rounds of ProLoad PL44MT1 Rem Mag "Lite" @ 490 ft-lb. At $0.63/round these may break my bank.

Bob C & VictorLouis: I may try some Win STHPs, although they are listed at 729 ft-lb, roughly equal to the Fed C44A.

lendringser: couldn't find the Triton "Lite" in .44 Mag on their website. Saw the "Lites" in other mag loads.

444: Yep, it's pointing that way (handloading) if I want to shoot the .44Mag alot. Unfortunately, I have trouble finding the time to handload and the $$$ to buy large quantities of commercial loads. Not a good predicament. M629 MG will be "slightly used".

444
December 30, 2002, 06:20 PM
Deuce, I hear you. Reloading takes time, space, and some money. Once you get started though it is great. There are a lot of threads posted about the economics of reloading and the bigger bores like the .44 Mag are where any cost savings make themselves known. It is very hard to afford to shoot big bore revolvers with factory ammo for most of us.

Good luck and have fun with the maggie.

Baba Louie
December 31, 2002, 09:37 AM
deuce20,

Get together with 3 or 4 of your friends who also shoot .44 and get a group thing going on the reloading to help defray costs.

Whenever I go back home to MO. I bring 10 - 12 large coffee cans of brass, buy a couple of boxes of bullets, powder and primers and give it all to Dad. He and his old crony friends then do all the dirty work for me.

I usually return home with 300 - 500 rds. reloaded, buy a few boxes of factory ammo (need the brass) and shoot till I'm dry.

Repeat as necessary.

Adios

mec
December 31, 2002, 10:17 AM
the Special and magnum 165 grain corbon loads turn in a lot of minust two inch groups from my 4" 29 and Mountain Gun. the only real problem might be that you have to crank the rear sight up pretty high.
http://www.milesfortis.com/mcump/images/mcump/05/mgr07.jpg

Baba Louie
December 31, 2002, 10:31 AM
Dang mec, them cartridges are bigger'n your gun.

Now THAT is a very pretty BBQ gun. Beee-u-tee-ful.

Adios

moxie
December 31, 2002, 01:28 PM
I'm not really sure why you are focusing on muzzle energy. Felt recoil is not directly related to muzzle energy. Bullet weight is the most important factor, followed by velocity. For example, we can look at two rounds with an identical muzzle energy. One can be a very light bullet driven at very high velocity. The other a heavy bullet driven more slowly. With identical ME, the round with the heavier bullet will have more felt recoil. Then there are the imponderables, such as powder burn rate. If you're looking for a .44 that packs a good punch but has a relatively gentle recoil, try the CCI Blazer 200 gr. JHP in .44 Special. This is the self defense round of choice for small .44 spl. snubbies like the Charter Arms Bulldog Pug, which weighs only 21 ounces. It's not a pussy cat in that gun, but is manageable. Your much heavier MG should tame it perfectly.

WESHOOT2
December 31, 2002, 03:07 PM
255g Beartooth, HS6.........

WESHOOT2
December 31, 2002, 03:09 PM
If I didn't make ammo I'd buy Pro Load.

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