What happened to the QUOTE button?


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stellarpod
December 31, 2002, 07:51 AM
I swear there was a QUOTE button that allowed response to specific posts within a thread.

I'm not seeing it now. Where did it go?

stellarpod

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tyme
December 31, 2002, 08:54 AM
It was removed to squelch free speech. Too many people freely expressing important ideas, you know?

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TheBluesMan
December 31, 2002, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by stellarpod:
What happened to the QUOTE button?
I swear there was a QUOTE button that allowed response to specific posts within a thread.

I'm not seeing it now. Where did it go?

stellarpod
Originally posted by tyme:

It was removed to squelch free speech. Too many people freely expressing important ideas, you know?

Actually, it was removed because so many people were quoting the posts that appeared directly above them, then just adding a couple sentences. That's annoying, don't you think? ;)

BigG
December 31, 2002, 09:59 AM
You said it, Bluesman!
;)

stellarpod
December 31, 2002, 11:42 AM
Bluesman: Take a look at the "Freedom sticker..." thread, or the "do you think any gun laws help curtail crime..." thread. There is an intensive dialog going on there.

Not having the ability to easily pull specific quotes makes it quite difficult to properly address questions when the traffic is as high as on these two threads.

I would humbly ask that you reconsider your decision. I for one find the QUOTE button quite useful and promise not to abuse it.

thanks,
stellarpod

TheBluesMan
December 31, 2002, 12:04 PM
Not having the ability to easily pull specific quotes makes it quite difficult to properly address questions when the traffic is as high as on these two threads.
I agree. As you can see above, you can still quote pertinent passages as needed. You just copy the quote to your clipboard, click the "Reply button, then hit the "Quote" button when you are posting your response and paste the quote into the pop-up box. You can also manually type [ quote ] and [ /quote ].

BTW, the decision was not mine alone but was a consensus of the staff of THR. That said, we're always open to discussion and suggestions. If the membership feels strongly about this, we might reconsider. :)

-Dave

Mal H
December 31, 2002, 12:47 PM
stellarpod, we all agree that being able to quote others is a necessary part of communicating on a BB. We strongly feel that the quote button was grossly misused by many members. As TBM said, we haven't curtailed your use of quotes, but we have made it such that you must need to quote a passage from another member. It only takes a few extra seconds to create the quote. A fairly small price to pay to save untold megabytes of storage.

Mike Irwin
December 31, 2002, 04:56 PM
"We strongly feel that the quote button was grossly misused by many members."

I fully agree with Mal in his take on this.


And that, folks, is how I quote someone.

Just use the quotes.

If you need to give it a little more visibility, italicize it, such as...

We strongly feel that the quote button was grossly misused by many members.


Yep, still agree with you, Mal. :)

stellarpod
December 31, 2002, 05:01 PM
OK OK OK!

I give! You're right. I never denied being a bit lazy. :D

I am certainly capable of utilizing the quotation methods described. Feel free to close this thread.

stellarpod

BenW
December 31, 2002, 07:14 PM
I really like the quote button. To me it seems more efficient to hit that and then cut out the text you don't want rather than cutting and then pasting. But I see the point of removing it when people are too lazy to edit, because it drives me crazy as well to see five quoted paragraphs followed by a single sentence. Especially when a few people do it in a row....:rolleyes:

voilsb
December 31, 2002, 07:25 PM
except now you have to be sure to open the "post reply" in another window, in case the text to be quoted appears too far back for the "post review" chunk under the reply window.

also, the lack of using quotes can make the line of commo confusing, because you aren't sure if the last post is responding to the initial post in the thread, the post immediately preceding it, or some other post or portion of a post.

just like people abused the 'quote' button by over-quoting text out of laziness, now many people will simply not quote out of laziness, which will make threads less readable and more confusing.

as for me, I'll remember to open all my future replies in other windows.

as a suggestion, you might want to put a "reply" button on each post so that you don't have to go to the top or bottom of a page, then try to hunt for the post you wanted to quote.

voilsb
December 31, 2002, 07:29 PM
another option could be to limit the amount of text quoted. for example, it might help to make quotes only hold 300 characters (or about 75 words) max.

also limit nested quotes to two down. you can quote one other quote, but any quotes deeper than that are ignored.

I, of course, have no idea how much work that would be, so it might not be a feasible option.

Mal H
January 1, 2003, 02:25 AM
You guys do realize that the "Post with Quote" button was on TFL for all of about 24 hours? We canned it as soon as possible after each software update. So TFL cannot be your reference as to how useful it was.

voilsb - Valid point about using another window. Or you can do it as many do now, do the copy before you hit the New Post button.

One additional point - we only lease the SW we didn't write it. We can turn some features on and off, but if we tried to hack it too much it would become unstable, unmanageable and unsupported.

voilsb
January 1, 2003, 05:09 AM
One additional point - we only lease the SW we didn't write it. We can turn some features on and off, but if we tried to hack it too much it would become unstable, unmanageable and unsupported.
didn't know that. thanks for the info.

BenW
January 1, 2003, 12:02 PM
So TFL cannot be your reference as to how useful it was.
I use the quote button on 1911Forum all the time. That's actually where I'm getting my comparison data.:)

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