D'ya like Heinie sights?


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VaughnT
December 31, 2002, 07:56 PM
I just dropped a Colt off at Yost's and am having a hard time deciding on the rear sight.

He recommended the Novak, but I had one on my Springfield and think that the lines are wrong. It's a good sight, but the aesthetic quality can't be ignored. More in tune with the Golden Rectangle is the Heinie Slant Pro, but I've never used one and was wondering if it was well-thought of.

Do you like the tradition 3-dot? The Straight-8? Bar Dot? Is it good for one-hand drills? Is it durable?

Any other combat sights I should keep an eye on (pun intended)?

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Wildalaska
December 31, 2002, 08:16 PM
I prefer Novaks, sorry I just dont like the Heinie sight picture....

My second choice is a std Trijicon double dot rear....

Kahr carrier
December 31, 2002, 08:50 PM
I like the Heinie STRAIGHT EIGHTS>:D

triggertime
December 31, 2002, 09:06 PM
I'm not too fond of Novak sites. They're pretty much useless for one-hand drills. Heinie sights are a little better in that regard, but all in all, I prefer the blocky Meprolights.

VaughnT
December 31, 2002, 09:09 PM
Wild, what's different about the Heinie sight picture? It's a post in a notch, isn't it?

Kahr, have any problems aligning the dots for rapid fire? Are the vials bright? Is the white surround large like the Ashley?

Fed168
January 1, 2003, 12:22 AM
I have used Heinie's on two guns, two configurationsin the Slant Pro. The Straight Eight sights have been some of the quickest I have used, and easier to me than 3 dot sights. No confusion between dots and they line up pretty quick. At 25 yards everything went where it should.
The other set were the plain black sights. Again, they lined up nicely and helped with accuracy, they were mounted on a Glock 34. Heinie's are nice and big, plenty of room to focus on the front blade.
After shooting the Straight Eights, I converted my 92F rear to a post dot, and the BHP has a bar dot setup. I find these to be quicker and easier for me to stay on target.

Soap
January 1, 2003, 12:29 AM
No-snag sights like the Heinie Slants and the Novaks truly stink for doing one-handed malfunction and reload drills. If you're going to use this gun as a carry gun, I wouldn't recommend any type of snag-free.

Wildalaska
January 1, 2003, 01:26 AM
No-snag sights like the Heinie Slants and the Novaks truly stink for doing one-handed malfunction and reload drills. If you're going to use this gun as a carry gun, I wouldn't recommend any type of snag-free.

Come on hes apparently an armed civilian, not a Special Forces operator, the chances of him hving to clear a malfunction one handed by snagging his sight are slim and none...

On the other hand snagging the gun in a stress situation is far more likely...

Im gonna start a thread on this subject...

dacinokc
January 1, 2003, 01:34 AM
I like more "real world" styled sights, which at times means I guess that I lean to the Novak style sights. While I prefer the adustable style of sights, I have had snag problems with many of the bomar style sights. The Novaks are far less prone to snag. Anymore, sights and the biggest issue for snagging for me... :uhoh:

Wildalaska
January 1, 2003, 01:47 AM
Wild, what's different about the Heinie sight picture? It's a post in a notch, isn't it?

Yes and many like it....the last 2 sets we put on however bothered me..I felt the notch was subjectively too wide and too deep..in addition they seem more snaggy to me...

cadfael
January 1, 2003, 09:49 AM
I have a set of Straight 8's on my P226. It works very well for me.

Adam

Soap
January 1, 2003, 10:40 AM
Come on hes apparently an armed civilian, not a Special Forces operator, the chances of him hving to clear a malfunction one handed by snagging his sight are slim and none...

:scrutiny: You're right. What am I thinking. I am such a mall ninja. Only Special Forces operators take hits that will incapacitate an arm. I suggest you read El Tejon's reply on your new thread.

On the other hand snagging the gun in a stress situation is far more likely...

That is pure speculation.

Sean Smith
January 1, 2003, 11:04 AM
Personally, I like the standard 3-dot sights Colt puts on their guns right now. I've had guns with Heinies and Novaks and like them both, the Heinies seemed to be made of tougher steel, though... the Novaks I had were very easily dinged and dented. But the shootability benefits of the swoopy sights are pretty minimal IMHO.

Robar makes a sight that fits into the standard rear dovetails that is supposed to be quite nice. Ted might still have some lying around. :D

Still Learning
January 1, 2003, 11:07 AM
I love my Heinie Straight 8s. According to my PACT timer, I'm a bit faster with them in low light. In full daylight, shooting IDPA targets, there doesn't seem to be much difference.

denfoote
January 1, 2003, 12:08 PM
I had Heinie Slant Pros on my ex Glock 30. I intend to put them on my new G29!! :)

Wildalaska
January 1, 2003, 05:57 PM
You're right. What am I thinking. I am such a mall ninja.

Sorry you feel the need to take anything in this world so personally.

VaughnT
January 1, 2003, 10:00 PM
Sean, I saw the Robar sight your talking about and thought it was perfect: robust, yet snaggable. for those one-hand drills that I might need. I work in the armored industry and don't want to rule anything out...though I don't want to get all mall ninja and strap a ballistic plate to my back.

Anyhow, somebody talked me out of them b/c my Colt has a beavertail safety and they thought it conflicted with the lines. I don't know!! I've already changed sights on Mr. Yost once and hate to bebop around on the issue.

Heinie Slants have the nod, so far. Mr. Yost has some serious corrective surgery to do on my baby so there's some time before he makes the cut for the rear sight.

For all, I work in the armored industry and don't want to rule any drills out...though I don't want to get all mall ninja and tape a ballistic plate to my back.

Gomez
January 2, 2003, 03:34 PM
Back in the long, ago dark ages when I carried a M1911, it had Robbie Barkman's sights on it. They worked great, even if my experience with the company left a lot to be desired.

Prior to Ashley Emerson reinventing the Express Sight for pistols, I used Heinie sights on two Glocks and found them to be some of the best conventional iron sights that I'd ever used. I had the rear sight notch widened and deepened, but that was just me. I used a plain black rear sight (pre-Slant model) and a plain black tritium front. Heinie doesn't put white around the tritium vails, so you have a nice simple sight picture. I'd see if Yost can get the non-Slant rear from Heinie and go with that. If not, then I'd settle with the Slant rear. I'm not a fan of the Novaks.

John Forsyth
January 2, 2003, 04:09 PM
I got Heinie! :D Seriously, have a set of Straight 8's on a Kimber Classic Stainless. They are still bright, and are 4+ years old.

I would buy them again.

JiminCA
January 2, 2003, 05:22 PM
I have spent a fair amount of time with both sights and have come to the following conclusions:

1. 3 dot setups don't work for me. too visually confusing.
2. The straight 8 coinfig works for me best, or no dots. But the straight 8 is better in low/no light
3. I like the way a Heinie looks better than a Novak
4. But in the end, the Novak is better. Why? The serrations on the back of the Heinie don't result in a really black outline on the notch, while the Novak does. The Novak has that undercut pocket around the cutout that gives you a really dark background for the light to contrast against shining through the notch. Also, the top edge of the Heinie isn't as visually crisp as the Novak. It kind of rolls off while the Novak is really clean. Lining up the top of the front sight against the rear top of sight is easier with a Novak.

I'd take a gun with either sight on it, but in the future will probably spec Novaks.

Jim

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