What if Hillary gets Dem nod for president?


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PATH
December 31, 2002, 10:00 PM
What will you do? What threat would she present to firearms ownership?

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Nanook
December 31, 2002, 10:05 PM
You mean Hillary "I'm not running for President" Clinton?

I'm not sure what I'd to, other than be sick to my stomach at the thought.

I believe she is one of those people who wants no firearms in the hands of the common people. I also believe she would stop at nothing to make whatever she desires come true. A little thing like the Constitution would not stand in this creature's way.

m.i.sanders
December 31, 2002, 10:39 PM
If hillary get's the DNC nomination for Pres., I'd believe she'd do just about anything to win up to and including rigging the election in anyway possible. If she DID loose, she'd make algore look like a grasious looser. Heck, I wouldn't that be supprised if she staged a coup.

edited for spelling

AZTOY
December 31, 2002, 10:54 PM
I think if Hillary runs we are in troulble. She has a lot of people on her side:( .

Hkmp5sd
December 31, 2002, 11:05 PM
Since part of Bill's campaign was "two for the price of one," can't we claim she already had her 8 years and is no longer eligible?

4v50 Gary
December 31, 2002, 11:05 PM
Go Hitlery! If we're lucky, we get some other demo to help split their party and our man can win.

JimP
January 1, 2003, 05:17 AM
4V50Gary, I agree, I think it would be the best thing to happen to the repubs. She draws some followers that make the coolaid creeps of Jim Jones look like fatuous teenage girls in boys town. She also has some incredible "negatives". It would definitely split the rats; energize the base conservatives and would push the undecided into the camp of whomever would be running against her. She is also not a very astute politician. This is why she refused to ever have a press conference where she had to answer questions. She is about as sharp as a sack of wet mice. Have you noticed the blunders she has committed since being in the Senate? Accusing G-Dub of masterminding the twin-towers tragedy; accusing the repub party of deep-seated racism; etc. The woman is as ate up as a football bat. :banghead: :cuss:

4570Rick
January 1, 2003, 05:50 AM
A decade or so ago, when Jessie Jackson was running for Pres., I convinced everyone in my family that were still registered as Dems to vote for him in the primary election. Reasoning being, if he got elected as the Dem. nominee in the primary, no way would he be elected Pres. :neener:

But, Hitlery scares me.:uhoh:










Who did kill Vince Foster?

2dogs
January 1, 2003, 09:02 AM
I would have to leave the country if she were elected- maybe Alec Baldwin would let me have his place.:neener:

Baba Louie
January 1, 2003, 11:17 AM
A well regulated "Who Killed Vince Foster" fan club, replete with tee-shirts, signage, handouts, well informed, literate and vocal, would do well to pop up in every major demo voting city as she appears to speak in her run for the office, neh? Expect the SS to run roughshod over ANY who appear to disagree with her. Patriot Act ya know.

Maybe a video clip or two of her highness' sneering face as GWB spoke during the aftermath of the 9-11 debacle could be re-run as needed as well.

But, remember this always; when she runs, she will win. No matter what the voters deliver (hanging chads or no). Kennedy had Daley and Chicago votes, Al Gore had confused FLA votes (Do NOT, Under Any Circumstances, count the Military absentee votes!).

I'd say it depends on how little Geo. does in his War (our war as well) and the related impact on the economy (It's the Economy, Stupid), that she'll need to weigh before making her move.

That being said, I also expect her loving husband to run for the UN Presidency (don't they always elect a socialist to that position?) with the reult being the Clintons running the world political scene, when they get the big international banking scene to back them.

Of course, I could be wrong.

Adios

Tamara
January 1, 2003, 11:36 AM
She'd get beaten like a drum. She doesn't have enough support ousite of super-liberal urban enclaves.

She's going to spend a term as a Senator trying to build up a rep as Serious Stateswoman and giving the old rep of First Shrew time to be forgotten.

PATH
January 1, 2003, 11:39 AM
I don't think she is a shrew. That sort of insults those tiny little creatures. I liken her to the Bride of the Frankenstein Monster.

Baba Louie
January 1, 2003, 11:41 AM
Path,

Was she the Bride, or was she the Monster?

Adios

PATH
January 1, 2003, 11:44 AM
Hard to say!:D

BenW
January 1, 2003, 11:53 AM
If she ran, I wonder how many democrats would be bothered by the fact that she promised to fulfill her senatorial term and then reneged so she could run for President. If she can't keep a documented and crystal clear promise to a State, would her followers wonder how she could keep a promise to a whole country?

Baba Louie
January 1, 2003, 12:16 PM
Ben W.

Political promises don't count once elected into office, don'cha know? Its a, if not the, major rule of campaigning. Oh, right behind, get the money first.

Adios

2nd Amendment
January 1, 2003, 01:32 PM
If she gains the DemonicRAT nomination she'll lose the election because the people of the US, sheople they may be, aren't that stupid yet. While women may vote for her on the basis of her sex, men who haven't voted in decades will come out of the woodwork to vote against her in sheer disgust and terror.

And if she should win...

Well then I'll re-evaluate my Blue Helmet/Globalism won't-happen-in-my-lifetime opinion because that's what Hillary is all about. More likely though I expect to have to consider this after 2008. If Bill has managed to weasle his way in as SecGen of the UN by that time THEN I may really be worried.

If she should ever manage to get elected pray she doesn't have a Dem House and Senate to back her up. If so I can't even begin to imagine how fast freedom will end in this nation.

Baba Louie
January 1, 2003, 01:57 PM
2nd,

Nah, If she IS elected, we'll just re-define freedom like the Pigs did in Animal Farm; you know, All animals are equal, just some are MORE equal than others.

Hey, wait-a-minute. We're already there.

Adios

G-Raptor
January 1, 2003, 02:05 PM
I'm with 2nd Amendment.

IMO, if she does run, it will be the greatest political route since Mondale ran for president. She had national name recognition, but virtually no support outside of New York and California. The opposition would be massive. I would expect to see HUGE voter turnout just to vote against her.

Sean Smith
January 1, 2003, 03:36 PM
She need to pull a page from the Nixon playbook, lay low for a decade and get her name on some popular legislation. Run as an ersatz moderate and count on the public's piss-poor long term memory to tone down her negatives.

docmac86
January 1, 2003, 05:12 PM
"I'm not Hillary" will be the only platform her opponent will need!

Bob Locke
January 1, 2003, 08:35 PM
Hilldebeast will wait for 2008 to run, assuming Bush wins re-election in 2004. If a Dem wins in 2004, then she'll wait for 2012.

Better to run for an open seat than against an incumbent in most cases.

grampster
January 1, 2003, 11:08 PM
"Dang me, Dang me, oughta get a rope and hang me....."

Mark Benningfield
January 1, 2003, 11:40 PM
Hello All.

Hilldebeast! Man, I love that!!!!!:D :D :D :D :D

Viking6
January 2, 2003, 08:53 AM
It's simple. If she runs, she'll win because she won't run if she can't win. I despise her but would never underestimate her.

capt_happypants
January 2, 2003, 10:18 AM
Throw water on her.

Seriously, she may be evil, but she's pragmatic enough to realize that running in '04 isn't a good idea.

WilderBill
January 2, 2003, 01:10 PM
If Dubya's popularity lasts, then I think the DemonCraps might nominate her just to show that they veiw women as equal to men. It would build their female voter base. It would also save potential stronger candidates for another day by not having them end up labled as losers.
In general, she scares the "poo" outta me. If anyone could rig a national election it would be her.

BigG
January 2, 2003, 01:20 PM
Her mind is eroded from drugs. Alec and Barbra could return from Cuba or whereever they are. Oh wait, they're STILL here? :fire:

ruger357
January 2, 2003, 01:36 PM
God help us.:(

cuchulainn
January 2, 2003, 01:42 PM
She had national name recognition, but virtually no support outside of New York and California.

Unfortunately:

I forget the exact numbers since the census, but New York and California are good for almost 1/3 of the electoral votes needed to win -- ~87 of 270.

She'd also be the favored in at least D.C., Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Minnesota, Washington, Oregon.

She'd be strongly competitive in West Virginia, Florida, Arizona, Illinois, Michigan, Pennsylvania (off the top of my head).

Viking6
January 2, 2003, 01:54 PM
Just remembered, saw something on the news the other night with a poll (yeah, I know about polls) that as Sen. Clinton as the most admired woman in these United States. And the beat goes on and on......

Moondancer
January 2, 2003, 06:47 PM
Unfortunately, my gut feel is that she WILL run, and she WILL win. Not in '04, I agree, and maybe not even in '08, but bet your bottom dollar, it will happen.

I don't like her (or her husband either), and have never in my 49 years voted Democrat for any public office. But... I know an awful lot of people who would vote for her today, in a heartbeat, no questions asked.

She's a woman (I think).
She's a Democrat.
She's a wife of a former President.
She's a Liberal.

She's sly and sneaky and smart. She'll prime the pump for the next few years, no matter how long it takes, and she'll run and she'll win.

And we'll lose. Not just gun-owners, either. The freedom of the press will take a hit, too. I'll tell you, friends, I've never been active in campaigning for somebody before, but when she runs I'll be doing whatever I can for her opponent. Money, time, whatever. At least that way if she wins, I can honestly look at myself in the mirror (and tell everyone else when they start bemoaning the fact that they are losing something, anything that they hold dear about the United States of America) and say "I did everything I could to stop her."

I am scared of her. Does it show? :what:

aikidoka-mks
January 2, 2003, 10:24 PM
If she runs just put Condaleeza Rice on the ticket. I would love to see Hitlery try to debate Miss Rice! :-D

Sad as it is, I know a few women who are still proud they voted for her husband! I suppose they would vote for Hitlery to then.

Mark

ravinraven
January 2, 2003, 10:28 PM
Somebody said that hillary wouldn't win because the nation is not that stupid yet. Poor me. I thought New Yorkers weren't stupid enuf to vote her into the Senate. A real embarrassment. And a further embarrassment was that the county I live in and the rest of Northern New York gave her a majority of our votes too.

I once had a political science prof. who pointed out that as IQ increases, one's tendency to vote conservative increases. I never met anyone whose IQ I rated as not too damn high who ever praised a conservative, failed to vote democrat, or understood any issue any candidate was talking about.

I am an engineer, not a political science wienie so I don't spend much time analyzing people. They seem to just fall into my lap pre-analyzed.

"Where on earth did you find a college prof. who would say such a thing about IQ and voting tendencies?' you might ask.

Fair question. The prof. was teaching an extension course from South West Texas State Teacher's College. That's where LBJ got his under grad degree! He damn sure knew what he was talking about. That was in 1964. I wonder what he'd say today.

I think she'll win if she runs. I say that because I've lost faith in America's ability to refrain from suicide. Conservatives deliver a message that appeals to the strengths of human character. Liberals pander to human weakness. Who is going to win in that kind of a contest?

Good luck, America!

ReadyontheRight
January 3, 2003, 11:51 AM
Didn't Hillary get even fewer votes for Senator than AlGore for President in New York State in 2000? I hope that's a sign that she will get even fewer votes across the country. Unless of course she succeeds in dismantling the Electoral College by 2008 and moving the voting battlefield to the big cities.

I can't imagine that she would run in 2004. The Dems only chance of beating Bush is if the economy or the Repubs have a serious bump in the road during 2004. Hillary is too slick to run in a race she's not more sure of winning.

Bainx
January 3, 2003, 01:10 PM
I think Hiltery's star is already fading.
Looking back at recent events:
Bill Klintler is making fewer appearances now
Algorbatross was told not to run, Dems would not support him
The people of New York have now realized that they have been
duped
Republicans sweeping last election, even in liberal areas

I have a theory that people in this country are sick and tired of the Klinton bunch and want a change.

Viking6
January 3, 2003, 01:28 PM
"I think Hiltery's star is already fading. ...I have a theory that people in this country are sick and tired of the Klinton bunch and want a change." see previous post below:


Just remembered, saw something on the news the other night with a poll (yeah, I know about polls) that as Sen. Clinton as the most admired woman in these United States. And the beat goes on and on......

The 2000 election showed that there is a big polarization in the country, remember the blue and red map. There are people on this forum and previously on TFL that have read a lot more history than me that can cite things that couldn't have happened happening. Two illustrative examples: Bolsheviks out-maneuver Mensheviks (sp); Hitler out-foxing "was it?" Hindenberg!

I respect your opinion and hope you're right but neither Hillary or our electorate surprise me much anymore.

nascarnhlnra
January 3, 2003, 01:34 PM
I think some folks are giving Hitlery too much credit I think her running could actually activate the pro gun voters whom might not have voted otherwise just for fear of her running the country !

PATH
December 19, 2007, 01:26 AM
Robert,

Thank you for the heads up on the policy change.

PATH

Robert Hairless
December 19, 2007, 02:04 AM
Path, you're probably not aware that The High Road's rules were changed since you started that thread more than four years ago. Purely political threads are no longer welcome. I wonder how much value there is in resurrecting a thread this old anyway. Mrs. Clinton isn't going to have George W. Bush as an opponent for the Presidency.

Regolith
December 19, 2007, 03:41 AM
Holy crap! Worst case of thread necromancy I've seen in years.

Time to call in the zombie killers...

Ultrachimp
December 19, 2007, 03:57 AM
necro thread alert!
lol

Constantine-p89
December 19, 2007, 04:24 AM
I hope: Huckaby, Thompson or Paul win.

Neo-Luddite
December 19, 2007, 08:32 AM
It is fun to read in the light of current events.

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