Canes & Walking Sticks


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Lord Soth
March 31, 2003, 10:49 PM
Has anyone ever considered carrying around a cane or walking stick as a backup weapon for self defense? I just had a feeling that it might be viable. What are some of the advantages/disadvantages of this? Can regular canes/walking sticks like the ones from http://www.houseofcanes.com take the punishment of striking against other objects and self defense situations? Are there any places where someone can not legally carry a cane/walking stick?

Thanks!

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CWL
April 1, 2003, 12:22 AM
Save yourslf some time and visit here for combat canes and training videos.

www.canemasters.com


Can regular canes/walking sticks ... take the punishment of striking against other objects and self defense situations?

Proper use of cane techniques is as a tool for quick strikes, leverage techniques, pressure point attacks, pins and throws. If you want to beat on someone, use something else. :rolleyes:

brownie0486
April 1, 2003, 07:55 AM
CWL gives good advice checking out Master Shueys website of canes and cane training.

I have two of his canes [the instructor cane made of Hickory heart and an oak practice/drills cane.

The hickory heart is specifically used for it's strength. These are not cheap by anyones standards though you get a superior product in my opinion.

I have had the opportunity to train with Master Shuey with his canes. I like the cane where defense is concerned.

I don't carry it everyday but do carry it ocassionally. If I am not going to be able to keep weapons on my person due to location or situation, I take the cane.

If flying, I'll take the cane and in fact thats why I took the training.
Never unarmed is the goal. As society changes and more items are restricted I feel the cane is certainly a fine alternative to other more obvious weapons systems.

Brownie

kannonfyre
April 1, 2003, 08:06 PM
.....and living in a "people's republic".

In my country, about the only two weapons that you can openly carry for self defense is the cane and the maglight. Of the two, I would strongly recommend the former. It looks respectable and if you pretend to limp every now and then, fellow citizens give you right of way and the po-po don't hassle you.

The canemasters website is a gem and I will buy a cane from them if I take up training. Try to get an instructor with Hapkido experience for live training and if that's not possible then buy some of the canemasters vidoes and practice for AT LEAST 30-40 hours.

Coltdriver
April 1, 2003, 08:27 PM
I think canes are a great self defense weapon if its all you can have. In the hands of a well trained person a cane is about all you need.

Canemasters sold me two, a hickory heart training cane and a really nice one in light colored wood (can't remember what its made of). The light one has hand or finger grips decoratively cut into it and a neat two pointed tip on the handle end. It is probably too aggressive looking to take on a plane, but the old hickory one gets on with no problem.

These things have been in my collection for years.

Training is good to have because losing the cane means you are in trouble.

There are alot of very tidy and effective moves you can make with a cane. Whacking someone upside the head after they are down is in the rules. You will not break the cane and if you do, you can pretty much just start walking away. But there are some difficult to defend moves that can be made with a cane that can give you a serious upper hand.

Master Shueys canes are some serious stout objects!

brownie0486
April 1, 2003, 09:35 PM
My hickory heart instructors cane has the "shark teeth" down one side and finger cuts on the other nearer the hook.

The shaft has been made semi trinagular instead of round and thats where the sharks teeth are cut into it on the apex of the triangle. It's soft and hardly noticeable.

Might be hard getting it on the plane but then again the tip of the hook is disguised as a birds beak. Damned thing will remove a kidney for you. They are only decorations to the untrained and it's still only an expensive decorative cane.

The hickory gets a coat of oil every couple of months. It's heavy for it's size compared to the Oak trainer.

Multiple attackers x3 would all be hurting and have lumps and broken bones even as I took some damage myself probably.

That birds beak really makes it formidable in certain techniques and would end a fight PDQ if dug into an opponent.

Brownie

hso
April 3, 2003, 10:20 PM
http://newtlivesay.com/newt_livesay_CANES-STICKS.htm

brownie0486
April 4, 2003, 11:22 AM
I can tell you first hand that Jerry Van Cook is a real world guy. I have trained with Jerry at the Riddles in Little Rock and New Orleans and converse with him ocassinally even now.

He's been at the game of survival most all his life and so he and I hit it off pretty well as that basically describes me as well. Great conversationalist and has much to offer young pups about what works and doesn't work on the streets.

Jerry is also a knife writer for a few monthly mags on the newstands. His testing of the knives is more real world than most.

He trains hard and I am honored to call him a friend.

Brownie

swifter
April 5, 2003, 01:34 PM
Cold Steel's Special Projects has a "white waxwood" cane that is inexpensive. I have two, and they are unobtrusive and durable, except for the stupid ferrule, which pops right off.
Tom

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