Help me choose my next gun purchase !!!


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Felonious Monk
January 2, 2003, 02:58 PM
Okay, I'm all over the map on some of these, and so I'm throwing it open to suggestion/sage advice.

I currently have:
Ruger SP101 .357 snub - stainless
Rossi M335 .38 spl snub - blued
Kel-Tec P11 - parkerized w/night sights
Phoenix HP22 - blued

Which of the guns in the poll would you go with next?
My wife has a P32 that I love the feel of, and can see carrying it as an "always" carry gun...

...but I LOVE the looks of the CZ in Duo-Tone
...and I WANT to add a .45 to the mix. Ruger P90 or P97.
...the new Kel-Tec (.380?) may be an option, instead of the P32
...but the Bersa and FEG's are cool, inexpensive, and proven reliable
...oh, and don't forget that sexy Beretta!

Since I seem to have no occipital lobe, can someone provide me a little reasoning?

Thanks,
FM

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treeprof
January 2, 2003, 03:27 PM
The CZ. You need a full-size auto in your mix, and the CZ is a reliable and inherently accurate pistol that has infinitely more elegance and grace than anything made by Sturm-Ruger. I have 2 CZ's (75 and 85 Combat) and they are among my favorites. Look at CZ's .45 in addition to the Ruger's.

Edit: I see you listed the compact CZ. Same goes for design etc. over the Rugers, but I'd look hard at the full-size ones. They have a slim profile, and you can still get full cap (15 rd) mages pretty easily.

Felonious Monk
January 2, 2003, 03:45 PM
thanks, treeprof!

Funny you mention the CZ97 .45, it was going to be another choice, but I thought I was getting a little diluted with all the various sizes and calibers already, so I edited it out of the poll.

I know a guy who had exactly what I want in a CZ75 compact, but I couldn't quite get it all together before he consigned it at a shop. They may still have it...not sure.

Litlman
January 2, 2003, 03:47 PM
Ilike the cz.

10-Ring
January 2, 2003, 03:48 PM
I have been trying to train myself to stick only to the choices given, but since it has already been mentioned, I'll throw in another vote for the CZ in 45 acp.

yesterdaysyouth
January 2, 2003, 05:18 PM
i like the beretta and i love sex so.....:p

Marshall
January 2, 2003, 06:08 PM
1. CZ
2. Ruger


:scrutiny:

firestar
January 2, 2003, 06:24 PM
I agree that you need a full sized auto pistol. It is good for home defense and nicer to shoot for fun.

I chose the Ruger P97 because I have the P95 and find it is very well made and accurate and a great bargin.

If you are going to go to a full size for HD, it might as well be a .45 or a hi-cap 9mm.

It seems that you have the mid size guns covered or I might have suggested a Bersa.

Mastrogiacomo
January 2, 2003, 07:17 PM
There's nothing sexy about the Beretta 9000s, they're ugly, they hurt and they're a pain in the :cuss: Pick up the 92FS in Inox. Now THAT'S a sexy gun you can have fun with at the range!:D

Kahr carrier
January 2, 2003, 10:00 PM
Ruger P-90 ,budget priced and a 45 ACP>:)

enfwago
January 2, 2003, 10:08 PM
I have only heard good things about the CZ...that is probably the way I would go. Plus the ammo is fairly cheap, which means more range time.

MLH
January 2, 2003, 10:21 PM
It shoots straight. It's cheap to shoot. You can use hi caps mags in it with adapter. It IS sexy. And it is a BERETTA!;) You can carry cocked and locked or as a double action and locked or not. Did I mention it is a BERETTTA.:D

seeker_two
January 2, 2003, 11:00 PM
I voted CZ-75, but I'd also recommend any of the Ruger 9mm's too. Cheap ammo, easy to shoot, and (if you reload) can sometimes use the same bullets as .38's...

Good luck w/ your purchase...

cratz2
January 3, 2003, 12:00 AM
I have a P32 but the CZ is the only gun on your list I have any desire to own (though I own an EAA and have owned CZs in the past).

Blackhawk
January 3, 2003, 12:35 AM
Kel Tec TBA, cause I'm going to get one or both if they're not ridiculous like a P-11 chambered for .380 or something like that.

556A2
January 3, 2003, 12:37 AM
The CZ-75, just superb worksmanship in an affordable package, I'd pick the Beretta second though.

PATH
January 3, 2003, 07:00 AM
I'd go with the CZ.

Mastrogiacomo
January 3, 2003, 07:22 AM
If you're seriously considering the Beretta...check out www.berettaforum.net and see what hey have to say about this gun. Maybe they can give you better insight. :cool:

Felonious Monk
January 8, 2003, 07:06 PM
Thanks to all!

Biggest surprise here was the runaway fave CZ75 over the Ruger.
With the Kel-Tec announcement, the P-3AT's definitely on the radar screen for 2nd half 2003.

Next purchase for me: CZ75 duotone, either PCR or compact.

Shmackey-- yours still on consignment? I'd be surprised if it hadn't sold yet.

Any other input, anyone?

Gophfer
January 8, 2003, 09:04 PM
My son bought a CZ 75 Compact. I shot it and it was sweet! Great trigger pull, accurate, a fun shooter. It's my next handgun.

J.Gillespie
January 8, 2003, 09:13 PM
I would get the Kel Tec TBA. Sounds like this is going to be a great gun.

Ala Dan
January 8, 2003, 11:05 PM
I too, voted for the CZ. I think this would turn out to
be in your best interest; taking all the criteria you
listed into consideration!

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

krept
January 8, 2003, 11:44 PM
CZ97 would kill at least two birds with one stone.

bestseller92
August 25, 2006, 08:05 PM
Go for the P97.

Nathan Williams
August 25, 2006, 08:18 PM
I voted for the Beretta, I have always had doubts about the quality of Bersa, and Kel-Tec they just feel cheap to me, and refuse to give Ruger my money. I dont know much about CZ but man they make some ugly guns IMO. I do like the looks of the P90 though but Rugers gun show stance turns me off.

aguyindallas
August 25, 2006, 08:28 PM
I have owned a P32, P11 and a Ruger P97.

I dont particularly like ANY of the guns in your poll, however, if I had to narrow it down, it would be either the P97 followed by the CZ.

weregunner
August 26, 2006, 03:27 AM
In order and it is too close to call.The full size semi auto is probably best. Ruger P90 or P97 is my first choice.Own the P97DC.But what fits you is what counts. Built solid and accurate.So are most of the other full size pistols.CZ75 is my next vote.It was almost a draw between Ruger and the CZ75.That is my prejudice talking.Handgun grips on the Ruger P90 and CZ75 can be changed to fit with aftermarkets.Cannot say :cool: the same for polymer framed pistols in this poll.Rubber slip ons can be used for larger hands.

strambo
August 26, 2006, 04:50 AM
I voted CZ...but my real vote is "any quality, reliable mid-full size auto in 9mm-.45ACP" Seems like a big void in your collection.

Cousin Mike
August 26, 2006, 01:00 PM
... and I voted for the Ruger P90.

I was fortunate enough to get a chance to shoot a P90 recently. The Ruger P90, IMHO, seems somewhat similar to a Sig P220... How? I don't exactly know. Maybe it was the "point-ability" of it. I often joke that my Sig P220 points itself, and I just pull the trigger. The Ruger P90 feels the exact same way, and was very accurate. The recoil was a little more stout from a P90 than a Sig P220, but the recoil just made it more fun to shoot. I'm sure it's because the P90 is lighter, but it was still very pleasant to shoot .45ACP from - just a tad different than a Sig or a 1911. The trigger was nice on the Ruger as well.

FWIW, my friend who owns the Ruger came here to learn to clean it, field strip it, etc. He'd owned it for quite a while, but didn't get a manual with it, and hadn't learned to clean it in the couple years he'd owned it. A couple patches and some Hoppe's #9 made that gun look brand new, and it functioned just as flawlessly.

The P90 was my vote because it's a .45ACP, and a good gun to shoot that round from. Very rugged, reliable, and accurate weapon. Personally, I would choose a .45ACP over a 9mm Para (9x19) or Kurz (.380acp) anyday. I just don't have the same faith in .380 and 9mm that I used to.

FWIW, I own a Beretta, and have owned several in the past. They're great guns, just boring to me. CZ's have a fine reputation, I have no experience with them as of yet. I trust the good folks here at THR, and have heard enough good about them to feel comfortable buying one. If I got a Bersa Thunder, it would be the .45. I hate everything about Kel-Tec pistols, but that's just my very biased opinion. I've also heard about more reliability issues with Kel-Tec than any other gun in your poll.

You choose whatever you like best. None of us can tell you how the gun will feel in your hand, point, fire, or function for you. I'd recommend going to a range and seeing if you can actually shoot some of them before you buy them. Good luck with whatever you choose!

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