California's Gun Laws -- 2003 edition


December 24, 2002, 04:21 PM
A little over a week from now the new gun laws kick in out in CA and I would like to know how many CA TFL members will stop buying handguns due to these new laws.

I for one have moved into the " I'll buy it if I like it" camp and do not intend to stop buying; it's counter-productive. Sacramento wants CA gun-owners to stop buying guns, it makes putting FFL dealers out of business that much easier. A new test (unless you're active or retired military), a thumbprint and a utility billl, BFD. All I need to find is a utility bill.

I bought right up to the 2002 limit and now that I'm there, I see a couple handguns on the other side of New Years that I would like to have. My wants take precedence over Sacramento's.

Edit: Does this thread belong in "Gun Laws and Regulations"?

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December 24, 2002, 07:52 PM
Does a ********** CCW make you exempt?

December 24, 2002, 08:55 PM
Good question. I doubt it. My military ID card excempts me from the test requirement, but not the thumbprint or proof of residency (utility bill) requirement. CCW's are fairly rare in most of the state though, so for the majority of potential buyers the question is moot.

December 24, 2002, 09:21 PM
It won't stop me. The only thing that may keep me from purchasing is lack of funding or mfgs not wanting to submit handguns for CA certification. (sure would like EAA to submit that IZH-35M, but they already said they don't have plans to)

December 24, 2002, 11:11 PM
Can't stop me! The P2000 and KZ45 Compacts are hitting the streets!!

December 24, 2002, 11:33 PM
I'll never stop buying. In 2003 I think I'll get a few more not to mention more rifles.
For all of you that have come to the conclusion that you won't buy anymore I urge you to buy. Don't let the liberal fascists in California have what they want.

December 25, 2002, 12:30 AM
Well, since I don't have a Ruger 45/.22 yet... or a good bolt rifle... or a 5" 1911... or.... I guess I'll keep buying.

December 25, 2002, 12:44 AM
Does a ********** CCW make you exempt?

A valid CCW is one of the valid exemptions from having to have a Handgun Safety Certificate.

December 25, 2002, 12:51 AM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm already on the state's master list of malcontents, plus they have enough copies of my fingerprints by now to wallpaper a housing project.

It's important to buy more firearms than ever before. (It's also more important than ever before to buy firearms.) Support the local dealers that are already struggling, and tweak the socialists who think they can disarm us. Plus you get a new gun to shoot. It's a win-win-win situation!


December 25, 2002, 05:44 AM
I'm still buying. It looks like I'll be getting about $650 dollars for Christmas, plus I have some paintball gear up for sale, so the real question is "WHAT will I be buying?"

To start off with, I'm debating between saving my pennies for an SVI, buying a new Glock 23 for CCW (which I will apply for now that I have the fingerprinting fee), or getting a Dillon XL650 and accessories. Then, of course, there's also the local range membership to consider.

Hrm... looks like I need more money already. As for the new laws... :p . They already know who I am...

December 25, 2002, 09:26 AM
A valid CCW is one of the valid exemptions from having to have a Handgun Safety Certificate. Cool, it makes sense too because of the hoops those folks already jumped through, besides being connected ;) (just kidding, I'm envious)

Gary H
December 25, 2002, 12:07 PM
husband: "The gun laws are changing. Next year, I'll need to give a thumbprint and I refuse to do that."

Wife: "Every year you come up with some reason to buy guns that you don't need."

husband: "Ya, well this time I mean it. I'm not buying guns after the New Year, so I have to buy everything that I might want right now."

Wife: "Last time you told me that you were done buying yourself guns, you started buying me guns and I have more guns than I can shoot."

husband: "I'm a sensitive guy. Be careful, those were presents. If I didn't love you so much, I wouldn't have bought them for you. I know I could have bought you expensive jewelry, but you can't really have much fun with jewelry. Think of all the intimate times we have on the range."

Wife: "Ya, whatever.."

Actually, my wife gives me grief, but it is all in fun. I won't be buying guns after the first. The last six months have drained the bank account. That's my story for now. No, I won't swear that I won't be buying more guns. OK, maybe.. Oh, I did buy her a nice ring for Christmas. I really did run out of guns to buy.. Ran out of guns to buy .. Ran out of guns to buy .. now repeated silently while awake.

December 25, 2002, 12:57 PM
At the beginning of this year I was firmly in the "won't buy" camp. Thanks to eloquent and logical arguments from the "buy anyway, don't let them win" camp over the last year, I'll be looking for a Dan Wesson Patriot when they pass the "safety" test.:)

I want every stinkin' politician in Sacramento to have confounded looks on their faces and walk up and down their hallowed halls saying, "But I don't understand this! They were supposed to STOP buying guns...."

December 25, 2002, 06:56 PM
Heck no, the new laws will not deter me.
I recently found an FFL in San Diego who does xfers
for cheap and am having too much fun ordering
guns off the Internet to stop now! :)

December 26, 2002, 10:09 AM
So the increased hassel is suppose to make us stop buying. HAH
Lets see another test, and a "saftey check" that is suppose to make sure that we are competent and safe with that particular firearm. Most of us of this forum could pass a test like that with in our sleep. Its more of a hassel of the gun shops to certify employees and themselves to give the tests.

December 26, 2002, 08:59 PM
I could not believe it but, my gracious mother in law stated at Christmas dinner..."who would complain if that state slid off into the ocean".

Nuff said

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