40 Cal


January 3, 2003, 01:20 AM
Am thinking of buying a 40 cal. Any experience and or advice would be appreciated Thanks Frank

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January 3, 2003, 01:24 AM
Welcome to THR, Frank! :D

Search here and on TFL. There's a ton of information on what you want.

January 3, 2003, 02:22 AM
I like the 40 as well as a couple others but it depends on the gun what caliber I like it in. What guns are you looking at in a 40.

January 3, 2003, 06:05 AM
Okay I'll be the first to say it. Try a Glock!

January 3, 2003, 06:54 AM
For what purpose? and what's your budget?

Carry, competition, nightstand, all-purpose?

Anyways, for whatever purpose you have in mind, I believe none could be much better than the HK USP40 in compact or full size. Designed from the ground up as a 40. With a 1911-style manual of arms to boot. Reeks of fine German engineering. :D

A SIG 226/8 would be just as good if you prefer a decocker only gun, although a USP also could be modified to be so. Both are more pricey than either a Walther P99 or the Glock, two of the better pistols out there.

You would also want to check out the latest 'rage', the HS2000, touted as the pistol that could 'out-Glock the Glock' (even in the looks dept ;)), and if budget's really tight, a CZ75 or a Ruger P944? may be just right for you.

January 3, 2003, 07:47 AM
I've found the Sig 229 in .40 to be the nicest handling and most accurate of the .40's I've shot; Beretta 96, Glock 23, S&W 4006 and H&K USP. Mike

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January 3, 2003, 10:46 AM
A lot of folks, including me, like the Glock 23. However, this is a personal prefernece and there are certainly plenty of good choices on the market. Best thing to do is visit a gun shop, handle some of the better known brands - Glock, Walther, Sig, HK, CZ, Steyr, S&W - and dry fire them. See which gun feels the best, which trigger is the most comfortable. Ask the dealer to break the guns open for you so you can see how difficult disassembly/re-assembly is. (Be careful of the stereotypical know-it-all gun shop employees who feel it necessary to exhibit their ignorance in public by giving you bad/erroneous advice). Then, if possible, find a local gun club that holds competitive shooting matches. Call and ask about attending a IDPA match. There you will be able to see lots of guns and most likely the owners will let you shoot a few if you ask nicely. With all that information in hand, come back to THR and post a few questions. Then make your decision.

January 3, 2003, 11:32 AM
I have a Para Ordnance P-16 .40 S&W that I like very much. It is an older gun, hard chromed, night sights, (not the LDA edition). Shoots exceptionally well, very accurate and holds a BUNCH of em!

I even use it for CCW on some occasions.

Good luck with your hunt. You will not be at any sort of disadvantage with the .40.

Flash Hole
January 3, 2003, 11:41 AM
If your on a tight budget try a CZ40B Great allaround gun,
Good for SD, Nightstand,CCW,Plinking, Ect. I love mine.


January 3, 2003, 11:59 AM
i have found that the recoil from a Glock23 is waaay more snappy than that of the USP40. the USP feels more soild than the Glock too

January 3, 2003, 12:26 PM
When I was looking for a carry gun I researched a fair number of guns. I ended up witha a Glock 23 (.40). For carry the 40 allows most of the advantages of a .45 while still allowing a 9mm frame and almost as much capasity. Hope this helps.


January 3, 2003, 02:01 PM
The 40 will have a good deal of recoil no matter what, it the nature of the load and it's power. In turn, most folks won't get the same groupings with a 40 as they do other calibers, which is fine.
The cartridge allows it to be used in smaller, short cycle guns, which is again a strenght to the design. It does allow for more rounds to be crammed into the gun, except for the capacity laws.
I find the Sig 40's, the 229 and the 239 to be my favorites. Both have some heaft to the slide that aids in recoil and controlability. I use the 239 as a CCW quite a bit I trust it that much. I have an older shorty fourty performance center, and it has nice high caps, but is on the verge to too finely tuned for the stress of a live fire situation.
I have owned three Glock 23s, and as mentioned, it is a matter of choice. I still have one, and it is in the bottom of the fishing tackle box.
I have tried the USP lines, and as much as I wanted to like them, the actions were dissapointing to me.
The fourty is a sound and intelligent CCW choice, as it is in small packages, and will do the job without question in two rounds or less.

January 3, 2003, 02:31 PM
I own several 40's. Sig, Glock, CZ and yes a S&W. Depending on the main purpose for use of the pistol, hard to say what is the best. Best buy $$ wise would be the CZ or S&W. You can get a new CZ and a use S&W for close to the same price. Hi-cap mags don't cost as much as the Sig and Glock. 10 rd. Meg-Gar mags can be had for about $15 for most pistols. Which ever gun you buy besure to practice with it on a regular basis.

Practice may not make you perfect but it will make you a better shot......

January 3, 2003, 05:04 PM
Ah yes... Trini just reminded me of another good thing about the .40 s&w...

It's SOOO much easier to "just say no" to $75 pre-ban mags when you have a .40. It's really tempting to spend that kinda dough for a 15 - 17 round mag, but I just can't seem to come off the cash for 11 - 13.

In compact pistols, the .40 is my favorite caliber.

January 3, 2003, 06:01 PM
I've got a .40, and to be honest, I don't find the recoil much more than my .9. Actually, I shoot the .40 better, and I think it's a better CCW round. I know we've been all through the arguments on .9 vs .40 vs .45, each has it's own strength and weaknesses, so I'm not going to rehash it all again.

Just my .02.

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