Remington700VS or Savage110FP in .308


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Jrob24
January 3, 2003, 12:28 PM
I'm planning a future purchase of a long range precision rifle and I need some opinions on which is better. Also if you know of another one for less than $1000 please mention it.

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PATH
January 3, 2003, 03:00 PM
Savage makes a meat and potatos product that won't win any beauty contests. Their products are decently priced and damned if they ain't just about the most accurate. If money is an issue, and even if it is not, the Savage deserves a look.

Bob Locke
January 3, 2003, 08:56 PM
I've had a 10FP in .308 for a couple of years now. Rifle, scope, bipod total cost me right at $600. Makes one ragged hole at 100 yards. Haven't done much beyond that.

Stock's not a thing of beauty, and from what I've heard/read my trigger (a decent one) is the exception and not the rule. But it works just fine for me, and that's all I care about.

Quintin Likely
January 3, 2003, 09:57 PM
With enough trigger time, either one will suit you fine.

I own a 10FP in 223 and a 700VS in 308. From what I've read, the Remington's have had some quality control issues over the past 8-10 years or so, if you went with the Remington, I'd look it over closely...supposedly, some of the threads in the receiver for the scope mount not being drilled square are the most common complaints.

For the money, you really can't beat the Savage...yeah, the trigger's kinda heavy, the stock isn't all that great, but its a helluva rifle for a helluva price. And if you were so inclined, you could always turn down the stock trigger or buy a Canjar or Timney further on down the road, or wait a few months till Savage starts installing their Accu-Trigger in their heavy barrel/varmint rifles. McMillian makes a fine stock for the Savage 10/110 action too.

To put it in perspective, if you're on a budget: My Savage, albeit in 223, with optics, mounts and rings, bipod, and sling is still less than my 700VS without anything...shoots an honest .7-.8 MOA if I do my part, too.

cratz2
January 3, 2003, 10:08 PM
Yep... Savages are pretty much impossible to beat for the money. Sometimes the triggers are pretty rough but they are easily adjustable with varying results. If you want better, replacement triggers are available from a variety of sources. The stocks I don't have a big problem with. They are flimsy but if shooting from a bipod, the flimsy-ness won't be a factor.

ninenot
January 3, 2003, 10:35 PM
My gunshop guy flat-out TOLD me to buy Savage. I was looking for a 'young ones' .22LR. He said that nothing is better-priced and NOTHING shoots as well 'out of the box.'

Didn't buy one and regretted it ever since, although if it's that good, the young ones would not likely tear it from my hands....

ed dixon
January 3, 2003, 10:51 PM
Winchester Model 70 Stealth.

admiral
January 3, 2003, 11:03 PM
Both are fine rifles but if you have $1,000 to spend, why not get the Remington and not worry about replacing the trigger or the lack of beauty. Either way...I don't think you can go wrong.

Open Carry
January 4, 2003, 02:07 AM
Savage has a new Accu-Trigger(tm) with adjustable pull down to 1 1/2 pounds.

www.savagearms.com (http://www.savagearms.com)

ed dixon
January 4, 2003, 02:11 AM
There's an article/review on the new Savage trigger in this month's Soldier of Fortune.

Rob96
January 4, 2003, 05:28 AM
Before I gave up deer hunting I used a Savage 110 in .270, unbelievably accurate. Beat out the Remington I had prior to that.

saki302
January 4, 2003, 05:44 AM
I recently bought a Remington 700 VLS in .223, which had such a rough bore, I sent it back to the factory for replacement.

I got a whole new rifle.. the bore still isn't perfect, but it seems to shoot relatively well, so I may leave well enough alone. It looks like it wants to do roughly 1/2MOA:100yds, but not on a windy day with me shooting it!

It just bugs me the bores have rough pit.machining marks in them new on these rifles- I have a shortened .308 VSSF which has a perfect bore, and a new .308 M24 barreled 700, also with a perfect bore.. go figure.. Maybe it's a .223 thing...

-Dave

Nero Steptoe
January 4, 2003, 10:13 AM
The major pitfall of the VLS is the crappy stock. It's not as crappy as a Savage stock, but it's not free-floated and doesn't offer good bedding. I bought a VLS in .243 and couldn't get it to shoot. Finally discovered that there were a couple of bad defects in the rifling about 1/2" inside the muzzle. Had a riflesmith cut off 1" and recrown for $25; I free-floated the barrel and bedded the recoil lug and tang with Marine Tex. It's a shooter now.

When comparing the Savage to the VS, be sure and factor in the cost of buying a stock the quality of the H-S Precision and decent trigger for the Savage.

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