I just had to chime in about Dave's advice!


January 3, 2003, 01:54 PM
Just had to let Dave and the others here know that I have taken your advice (even though I did buy the 1300 over the 870) :)

I have already used up the 1200 odd rounds I purchased last week, and I will be returning to Wal Mart for another refill of that prescription.

What I have noticed with this copious amount of shooting is:

I like shooting even more.
The recoil from my new SG after 2500+ shells is nothing like it was when I bought the thing. (I must have broken it in right! :) )
I am getting pretty damn good with this thing.
Shooting alot allows one the opportunity to find out what works for them. (You know when you are holding it wrong when shooting 3" magnum slugs) :)
After 2500+ rounds in a month or so I am getting smoother and smoother.
and finally;
I like shotguns!:D

Thanks guys.

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January 3, 2003, 02:07 PM
Dunno--but one might get the impression your having way too much fun :D

What games are you shooting?
Gun sounds as if its become and extension of you.

Dave McCracken
January 4, 2003, 12:26 PM
And another shotgunner has found the True Way....

You're forgiven for the 1300. Any good shotgun is a good shotgun.

And shooting 3" mags with bad form is self correcting.

Look around for a used MEC 600 Jr, you're about to reach another level...

January 4, 2003, 02:29 PM
Sorry Dave, but what is a MEC 600 Jr??


January 4, 2003, 02:41 PM
Ok its a reloader of some kind.

Gotcha thanks.


January 4, 2003, 02:57 PM
Mayville Engineering Corp.

600 Jr. is a very simple single stage shotshell reloader. Not real expensive, but used ones with extra components come up for sell because the addiction...err shotgunner trades/sells to get a progressive model. Single Stage is great, even if you buy a progressive later.

Mec is a great company, do a search and check out their web site.
Skeet, Trap and Clay ranges , along with a gunstore that sells reloading supplies good place to look. Classifieds also.


Dave McCracken
January 4, 2003, 05:51 PM
600s are the base line loader, It's slower than the progressives, but great to learn on and the quality is as high. Some folks that move on to progressives will keep their 600 for loads other than the one that's used most. Example, a trap shooter who uses oz loads might want to load up some 1 1/4 oz pheasant wackers, only a box or two. Rather than lose the settings on the progressive, it's easier to set up the simple, single stage 600 Jr.

FYI, w/o busting a sweat, a box takes me 12 minutes or so on my Jr. Cost of the press and components was about $100 bought used, paid for itself in less than a month. Current cost of a box of top quality trap loads, about $2.80.

January 4, 2003, 06:26 PM
I will be looking into a reloader now.

Thanks again Dave.


BTW in the meantime I am off to Wal Mart this afternoon for some more 12 guage fun:)

Dave McCracken
January 4, 2003, 06:29 PM
You're quite welcome, enjoy!

January 4, 2003, 06:34 PM
Here's a look at the MEC.


It's the unit I started on.

When you buy one of these get a good set of scales and a reloading manual. Good ones are available for free from the powder companies but I strongly recommend the Lyman Shotshell Reloading Handbook Edition 4. It has everything you need to know about reloading.


January 5, 2003, 10:47 PM
I'd like to offer another suggestion regarding reloaders...

The MEC Sizemaster is a step above the 600 jr. and IMHO is the finest single stage press available ( that I have seen). It is nearly identical to the Jr., with the additional features of an adjustable collet resizer and auto primer feed. The auto primer feed is an optional accessory for the jr. for about $30. When the cost of extras are added to the jr. that come standard on the sizemaster, the price is nearly the same. Main difference being the resizer ring on the jr. vs. the collet on the sizemaster.

Right now, Natchez has the Sizmaster on sale for about $127.00 plus shipping. I bought a used sizemaster on the net last year for $75. I have been completely satisfied with it, though I have only loaded about 500 round with it so far.

HTH, just something to consider.......

January 7, 2003, 09:34 AM
I have the 600 Jr. I am having a hard time adjusting the final crimp. It is either closing it to soon or too late.

Any suggestions?

January 7, 2003, 10:43 AM
If crimp is not centered, or if crimp has a spiral -loosen cam adj.lock screw 'A' and rotate cam upward.

If hole at center of crimp rotate in opposite direction.

To increase or decrease depth of crimp, loosen locknut 'B' and screw crimping punch 'C' down or up.

Very little movement is required. I'm sure you have checked wad seating and all that.

Now my Mec Single Stage predates the 600 Jr. -but these instructions should still work. Others may have means to post pics if need or be better at clarification.

I always had a couple of "special shells" when I competed, holes covered in candle wax, electrical tape...like to shoot a couple before competition started...fumble...oops...drop a few of these...load and "shoot two". Squaded up with unknowns they then stererotyped me . Psych is good--psych opponents better ;)

January 7, 2003, 11:05 AM
Thank you :)

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