New Winchester 1300 Defender


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TarpleyG
January 3, 2003, 02:58 PM
Well, after much research, I finally ordered a 1300 Defender yesterday. Found it locally for $291 w/ tax, NICS, and shipping to the dealer all included. That was the best price I got anywhere, including online. They called today to tell me it was here but I am afraid I cannot pick it up until next week when I have the rest of the $$$. Then it's off to the range with my wife in tow. She cringed but I convinced her it's important in case she needs to ever use it. She has never fired a shotgun or rifle so this shold be interesting.

GT

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sm
January 3, 2003, 03:26 PM
Congrats.

search for HS/LD posts he just boughta1300 and can give some input also.

Thought: about the- Mrs. after you get the fit and instruction for yourself--might let her warm up to the idea. Also what fits you may not fit her...light loads for recoil. If warms up to and her comfort in mind MORE likly will practice. Of course have see this lead to Wife wanting and getting HER shotgun...just a thought, the old drawn by attraction versus promotion bit.

PATH
January 3, 2003, 04:02 PM
As re1973 said it would be wise to start with lighter loads.

HS/LD
January 3, 2003, 04:04 PM
Great news!

re1973 was right I bought a new Win 1300 Defender myself about a month and a half ago. Paid $239 plus tax.

I have found the Win to be a fantastic gun and have over 2500 12gauge shells through it already.

The action is smooth the controls are well placed and the SG comes as I wanted it: 8 rounds capacity sling mounts hi-vis sights etc.

One caution would be to make sure you don't have your wife explore the recoil capacity by having here shoot heavy kicking loads.

My wife is 5'4" and only 118lbs wearing her Glock:) She is a little tiger though and has shot my 44 magnum with full power loads etc. She didn't like it much but she did it.

She has no problem with target loads through my semi-auto mosberg and targets through the 1300. But pop a 2 3/4" magnum in the tube and that was it for shooting for her for the day. She actually asked to shoot a round of 3" magnum buckshot but I convinced her to try the 2 3/4" first. :D

I would suggest starting her with light target loads if she doesn't have a lot of experience I would even consider reduced recoil loads if they in fact make a difference.

Have fun! I have had flawless performance over the last 2500 shells and the action is so slick it will slide open if you hold the muzzle up!!:D

The rotating bolt is fantastic and the gun will eject a shell when fired one handed.... :0

I have spent a lot more on ammo than I spent on the gun and that is the way it should be.

Regards,
HS/LD

TarpleyG
January 3, 2003, 07:10 PM
I am planning to use Federal 2 3/4" #1 buckshot (F127) as a HD load for this. I ultimately want her to be comfortable with this cartridge but may have to work up to it. What should I start with? This seems like a relatively light load to me but maybe not her. Maybe some low recoil #4 (H132) that they offer? Input welcomed.

GT

sm
January 3, 2003, 07:42 PM
I believe in pattern boards. I pattern a load at intended distance. I don't care what someone's gun will do or an article from somewhere, I want to know for myself. no two firearms will perform the same with same load--heck change lot #'s and things change.

It may suprise you even with target loads -you will discover muscles you didn't know you had. 100 rds will make a new shooter sore. I even taught ladies with a 28 ga semi --preferred technique first...then we moved up in ga to use buck or slugs.

HS/LD: what on earth are you shooting? Clays, Skeet? I hope your saving the reloadable hulls. But you bought smart--you spent more $ on ammo than firearm...smart man...sides how can you place avalue on training...when your having so much fun:D

blades67
January 3, 2003, 10:04 PM
I have a 1300 Defender with about 6000 rounds through it. Absolutely the most reliable and solid pumpgun I've owned. I've sold, or traded, Remmy 870's and Mossy 500's with fewer rounds through them that weren't as solid new as my 1300 is right now.

870's do have more aftermarket goodies for them, but that's because the 870 needs them.:neener: :evil:

sm
January 4, 2003, 04:48 AM
Dave is gonna get you:D

1300's fit me off the rack. The one I like is the one with the 'corncob' forend...dunno must be a 'shucker thing" .
870's have too much drop, but I use moleskin to build up the comb. Hey its gotta fit-'sides may look weird but with abunch on the rack side by side--easy to spot.
I really, really like the model 12, like and extension of me.

I'm just happy you guys have a gun that fits and your getting them dirty...keep them dirty guys.

Dave McCracken
January 4, 2003, 01:51 PM
You're doomed, Blades(G)...

870s have more stuff available because they're so popular.So there....

In the limited shooting I did with Students' 1300s, they did everything I required. While I didn't shoot them for time and score on practical COFs, my guess I operated them as well as I did my pet 870s.

IMO, once a shotgunner attains some expertise, he/she can do about as well with any shotgun with reasonable fit,once a little familiarization is done.

Any of us, given familiarity with any of the Big Four, will be pretty darn good with it. Expertise is portable, we take it from one shotgun to the next with little trouble. The big glitch is the controls being different, but a few hundred rounds will take care of that.

Enjoy, and now the Mantra.

Buy ammo, use up, repeat.....

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