Decisions, decisions...


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dev_null
January 3, 2003, 02:53 PM
I know I want to pick up a CZ, but after that it breaks down:
9mm or .40? (Never had much use for the nine, but CZ seems to offer more models available in it.) 75 or 85? Blue or stainless or Dualtone? Fullsize or compact? SA-only or standard safety or decocker?And so on... :confused:

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PATH
January 3, 2003, 03:05 PM
In the end it comes down to what you like and feel most comfortable with.

10-Ring
January 3, 2003, 03:46 PM
Over the years, I've trimmed down my semi auto collection to 22lr, 9 mm and 45 acp. That said, 9 mm will do fine as for the other options, I'd go w/ the decocker version since you can still carry it cocked & locked and have the versatility of decocking. I like fullsize guns. I already have enough compacts in the mix. As for 2 tone...that's all up to personal preference.

dev_null
January 3, 2003, 03:46 PM
In the end it comes down to what you like and feel most comfortable with.
Assuredly. However, since I don't have the opportunity to take one of each to the range, I'm fishing for other's experiences and (be afraid!) opinions on the matter.

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45R
January 3, 2003, 04:27 PM
the 9mm CZ75B is a tack driver. I had one in Duo-tone. Its a great gun.

Go with the Caliber that you enjoy shooting the most. Your local range should have one for rent. Try them all :)

New_comer
January 3, 2003, 09:22 PM
If I were to get a CZ now, it would have to be the 75 compact decocker only. Allows for condition 2 carry. Already have a USP carried condition 1.

But that's me. :cool:

New_comer
January 3, 2003, 09:24 PM
If I were to get a CZ now, it would have to be the 9mm 75 compact all-blued with decocker only. Allows for condition 2 carry. Already have a USP9 carried condition 1. No need to maintain another caliber. And I don't care too much about the looks dep't either. :D

But that's me. :cool:

cratz2
January 3, 2003, 11:46 PM
I've owned a couple each of EAAs and CZs. Managed to sell all but one of the EAAs. They're all nice guns, the CZs do have a bit nicer finish. I really prefer single action guns as that's what I've done most of my shooting with and I really like the triggers on the CZ75SA. I've seen and handled three or four of them in 40 S&W and as soon as I see one in 9mm I'll own it. I'd probably buy the 40 but my EAA is a 40.

cslinger
January 4, 2003, 01:16 AM
I honestly cannot believe not one person mentioned get one of each. What is wrong with you people. Are we still going through TFL withdrawl, the economy got you down, depression...What?

I guess I will have to be the voice of reason and say..."Get one of each/":D

Actually if it were me it would be a compact model. I likes them itty bitty littlen's

Chris

12 Volt Man
January 4, 2003, 01:43 PM
I have the CZ75bd (decocker model). The decocker is nice, but the can can still easily be uncocked the traditional way by anyone who has ever handled a gun. The nice part about buying the decocker or "police" model, is that it comes with a high cap mag. :)

telewinz
January 4, 2003, 08:26 PM
All CZ's are great. Just got the CZ40, move over 1911!

Zak Smith
January 5, 2003, 12:57 AM
1. 9x19. Ammo is way cheaper and you can practice more. Hi-caps hold 15 or 16, are common and still under $50. Heck, CZ-USA will still sell them to you.

2. 75/85? This one breaks down differently. If you are a lefty, you probably want the 85B or 85 COMBAT, since they have ambi safeties and slide releases. If you don't care particularly about ambi controls (I don't), the next biggest difference is firing-pin-block vs. no block. All 75B models have the block, also the 85B. The 85 COMBAT does not have the firing pin block. The 85 COMBAT trigger will be better from the box. A worked-on 75B/85B trigger can be very good, but it does not have the potential of a worked-on 85 COMBAT trigger since the firing pin block must be actuated, resulting in a longer take-up and longer reset. The 75B-SA is more accurate and a little heavier than the regular 75B. It also has larger safeties which are useful for shooting high-thumb, and and upswept beavertail (unique in the 75/85 series) which raises your grip slightly.

3. Your finish choices are:

satin-nickle: most durable, but looks like a yellowed hard-chrome
black polycoat: just a bit less durable, but black
dual-tone: the slide is actually a matte blued finish, and it is not as durable as the polycoat. the frame is satin-nickle and very durable.
gloss blued: this is the least durable finish.


Since the cheapest finish is polycoat, and it's the most durable dark finish, I think it's the best choice for general-purpose use.

4. Fullsize or compact? If you're going to carry it, get the compact. The full-size models are easier to shoot. Hi-caps are VERY hard to find for the compact models.

5. Your preference on carry mode. I prefer C&L, so all my CZ's are going to be converted to SA-only.

Enjoy.

BTW- here's my review of my 75B-SA:
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=133342

and pictures:
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=141163

enfwago
January 5, 2003, 01:09 AM
Like 45R said, try and find a range near you that rents them so you can try them out before you buy one. You can't really go with what someone else likes because everyone's tastes are different. There is nothing worse than buying one, taking it out shooting and then thinking "man I should have got the other one instead." It is about what is right for you. But with the 9mm, at least ammo is cheap, which makes for more range time. I personally like the blue finish...not really into the shiny stuff. As far as getting the compact or full size that depends on what you like and if you are going to carry it or not. A compact would probably be a little bit easier to conceal.

sanchezero
January 5, 2003, 01:15 AM
The only thing I don't like about CZs are those pimple sized thumb safeties.

I haven't seen the one's with the big'uns....Hmmmm:)

dev_null
January 7, 2003, 01:09 PM
Thanks, all, and especially to Zak. :)

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sm
January 7, 2003, 01:21 PM
Zak
Good report.
Good to give link to TFL
Thanks

PCRCCW
January 8, 2003, 10:16 AM
Great info....errr, hmmm just a couple of corrections if I may....
The D" models with the decocker dont have any other safety functions...no cocked and locked. Hammer down is your only option..but the half cock notch is an actual hammer position and makes the d/a pull a non issue.
The ambi safety models in the full size guns are the 85's..all of them, the 75's in 40 and all SA models. All of which are regular safeties....C&L Carry....:D
The 85 Combat has no firing pin block, correct!...its a Pre B" gun. Its a little nicer for takeup....no extra mechanical workings for the trigger to work and is adjustable on the Combat.
The SA guns do have a more upswept beavertail..but I think, Could be wrong :rolleyes: , the grip is standard 75/85 for its ergonomics.
On guns either standard SA or converted guns...you can get an IPSC trigger..with adjustments going both ways....nice option.

For a CCW...Id look at the PCR....Alloy frame weighs less and doesnt have the PO1's rail....not really a benefit for a CCW....
No C&L option...if you want this..the Compact 75 is the way to go.

CZ's are ok guns.....for the money anyway...."uh huh...sure they are!" Ok...Ok...they are great guns at a good price! Sheesh.....

Wheres my medication? Shoot well :uhoh:

dairycreek
January 8, 2003, 05:31 PM
Here's two that really please me. A CZ83 and an 85 Combat. Good shooting:)

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