Garand-type safety: finger inside trigger guard?


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tdow
January 5, 2003, 02:33 AM
Looking through my copy of The Art of the Rifle , it seems as though Cooper advocates keeping the trigger finger inside the trigger guard instead of staying "indexed" when using a rifle with the Garand-type safety. Is this how it is supposed to be done? How does one reconcile this with "Put not thy faith in safety catches"?

--tdow

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buttrap
January 5, 2003, 06:38 AM
Well issue Garands have a really stiff trigger pull and its a big guard too, the key is its locked till you push forward before you pull back. A bit of M-1 ahh 101.

GD
January 5, 2003, 09:25 AM
Another dumb safety is the SKS. I like how smooth it is but gosh, you've got to pull it back to take it off and it is along side the trigger! I never have gotten an AD with one but I could see it happening especially among the long fingered among us.

DamnedDirtyApe
January 5, 2003, 10:31 AM
The M1 trigger guard safety is intuitive. For me, it just seems to be in exactly the right place, and can be found without fumbling or bumping a mag release or needing a whole lot of digital maneuvering...it's just "there" when you need it, without looking.

I've caught myself unconsciously trying to operate it on my AR-15 while at the range, even though it ain't there! It's become an ingrained habit after just a few months of Garand ownership.

Anybody know of any studies done on Garand AD's during the wars?

DMK
January 5, 2003, 11:49 PM
Another dumb safety is the SKS I agree with that. That thing makes me nervous.

I'd much rather have the safety like on my Garand and Marlin Camp Carbine.

I don't see why you need to keep your finger in the guard though. I just rest my finger right above it.

Ledbetter
January 6, 2003, 01:43 PM
I have a Marlin Camp as well as a Garand too. I prefer to keep the tip of my index finger pressing on the side of the safety until I am ready to deisengage it and fire, especially on the Marlin.

MacPelto
January 6, 2003, 04:09 PM
I typically disengage this safety with my thumb. I find the angle bad for using my index finger. Is this unusual?

ReadyontheRight
January 6, 2003, 04:55 PM
I typically disengage this safety with my thumb. I find the angle bad for using my index finger. Is this unusual?

MacPelto -- I do the same thing.

I guess to follow the 4 rules, you don't relly need to put your finger in the trigger guard until you're ready to shoot. I've never really trusted safeties though. If I really want to be safe, I keep the rounds out of the chamber - easier to do on a bolt or lever gun than a Garand.

DMK
January 6, 2003, 06:04 PM
I prefer to keep the tip of my index finger pressing on the side of the safety until I am ready to deisengage it and fire, especially on the Marlin. Sounds like a good tip. I never thought conciously about it, but I'll have to try that next time.

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