PM9 and protection ammo


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Patriot
January 5, 2003, 09:38 PM
I'm having trouble finding a protection ammo that will feed in the PM-9.

All ball ammo has fed flawless but any kind of a hollow point jams into the feed ramp. I even tried EFMJ but the "slightly" flat nose did the same thing. I polished the feed ramp w/ Flitz and it did not help.

What about power Ball by Corbon?

Anyone else have any ideas?

Thanks

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NJ3
January 5, 2003, 09:55 PM
I have read that Remington Golden Sabers feed reliably in finicky pistols. BTW, I found Kiesler's (http://www.kieslersonline.com/product/ko_remingtonammo.asp)
to have the best price on the Golden Sabers.
There might be another reason why you're having problems with your PM9. My PM9 feeds everything I put in it including the Federal EFMJ.

Good Luck

Redlg155
January 5, 2003, 10:22 PM
Another vote for the Golden Saber BJHP.

The Golden Sabers have a relatively long overall length. Especially when compared to Corbon ammo. I've seen Corbon 125gr JHPs that were shorter than many manufacturers 115gr bullets.

Another choice you might try is the Winchester white box 115gr JHPs. They run about $12 a box of 50 and have a long overall length.

Good Shooting
RED

WESHOOT2
January 5, 2003, 10:22 PM
Sounds like gun-or-mag woe.

MikeJ
January 6, 2003, 12:19 AM
IMHO, I would get your pistol fixed or replaced by Kahr rather than go on a search for a round that it will feed. A pistol in that price range and touted for being so well crafted should handle modern day hollowpoints. Something is amiss and needs to be taken care of. Best, Mike

FunYet
January 6, 2003, 01:01 AM
I've been using Winchester whitebox ammo to break in my PM9. It works fine. Gold dot HP from Speer jams often. I've had good luck with Winchester Silvertip HPs. I agree with the other posts in this thread, a gun that costs as much as a PM9 should work with any ammo. If and when I decide I can part with the gun for 4 to 6 weeks I'll send it off to Kahr to be fixed.

Daguerre
January 6, 2003, 01:08 AM
Unless you can buy Winchester Ranger (law enforcement only), the CorBon 9mm 125 gr +P is the most effective defense round you can put into that little pocket gun. The Gold Dot 124 gr. would be a runner up... if your Kahr won't feed them 100%, I'd have Kahr make it right or look for another gun.

Coot
January 6, 2003, 09:38 AM
I use Federal EFMJ ammo in my PM9 and it functions flawlessly; I'd definitely give Kahr's customer service a call...

buzz_knox
January 6, 2003, 10:43 AM
Kahr advertises that the K9 and its variants were designed for use with self-defense ammunition, not just FMJs. So, Kahr needs to fix this one.

Watch-Six
January 6, 2003, 10:53 AM
I have tried a 100 rounds of Winchester 115gr HP and one box of 20 rounds of Gold Dot 124gr in my PM9. They both worked fine. Watch-Six

Patriot
January 6, 2003, 06:02 PM
Called Kahr and it's going back...*sigh*

Having bad lucks with guns here lately...

Matt Sutton
January 6, 2003, 07:08 PM
If you don't mind me asking, what was your serial number range?
Thanks,
Matt

Patriot
January 6, 2003, 07:12 PM
SN range:

VA19XX

Why??

Thinking of adding Big-Dot tritiums while it's there...opinions?

NJ3
January 6, 2003, 07:28 PM
Some PM9's with early serial numbers had problems. Kahr may just replace the barrel.

I personally like the big-dot tritiums
.

Matt Sutton
January 6, 2003, 08:14 PM
Thanks Patriot. I'm just curious if yours was an early specimen. I have one on the way (SN VA23XX) and I'm hoping they have fixed any teething problems.

Marcus
January 6, 2003, 08:28 PM
Just wondering,anyone know if the PM9s with factory night sights are out yet? Marcus

NJ3
January 6, 2003, 08:34 PM
Marcus,

Yes they are. Mine is a factory N/S PM9.

J.Gillespie
January 6, 2003, 08:57 PM
I have got a PM9 Ser #VA12XX. Looks like the earliest one here so far and it doesn't feed a thing! I love the gun but, like you FunYet...I can't part with it yet to send it back to Kahr. Guess it gives me a good reason to buy another CCW gun to replace it while it's gone.

FunYet
January 6, 2003, 10:15 PM
I took my PM9 to the range today after a REALLY good cleaning. I also disassembled, cleaned, and lubed the magazine. Today I had better luck with the Gold Dots. This time I was using a heavier bullet (147 gr, I think). Maybe that made a difference. Only one problem with Winchester Whitebox, and I think that's because I limp-wristed at the last minute. The gun is amazingly accurate. I hope it continues to feed consistently during trips to the range and continues to build my faith in its reliability. I hope to get back to the range soon and will try more Gold Dots. I'll post the results.

Jeff OTMG
January 6, 2003, 10:29 PM
I am a big believer in RBCD ammo. The round nose profile is more reliable than a HP in most pistols. As far as the Big Dot sight, it is fast and accurate for COM shots out to at least 15 yards. I found that the Big Dot was hard to shoot accurately at ranges of 25 yards and more. I even tried 'body' shots in an IDPA match at 35 yards and the Big Dot is just not precise enough.

Daguerre
January 7, 2003, 04:36 AM
All I can say is that after reading about all the problems with P-series Kahrs, I'm going to stay the heck away from them. I know the pistol is charming, cute, looks and shoots great, but it seems that a shockingly high percentage of P-series Kahr owners have to send their guns back to the factory once, twice, HIKE! That is really unfortunate. I'd like to buy a Kahr, but I think I'm going to stick with a K9 myself. Reliability with great defense ammo is of UTMOST importance to me. Any bobbles of any sort and my confidence with a gun is shot all to hell... and it takes quite a bit of work to get it back. Let's just hope that with all the guns being sent back to Kahr for fixing that they get the economic message and do something to make these guns a LOT more reliable.

Patriot
January 7, 2003, 05:57 AM
Dag,

I hope once is enough for me! Believe it or not, 4 out of 5 of the last guns I bought had to go back to mfg. All different mfg's and all for different reasons. Bad luck?...or a pattern in the industry?

BTW...they were Wilson, Springfield, Walther (S&W), and Kahr. Oh, and gun #5 hasn't been shot yet!!! It's a Browning....and to be honest, I'm afraid to shoot it with the streak I have going...:)

ShooterJD
January 7, 2003, 07:52 AM
My PM9 has been flawless thru 250 rounds. I have beeen using Federal Eagle 124 gr ammo for practice and their 124gr. +p+ Hydra Shok for carry. The +P+ does not produce very much recoil even in this little gun.Very managable and accurate also.My gun must be one of their early one's sn va00xx. No problems in the fit or function of this weapon at all. In my opinion this is the best pocket pistol ever produced. Reliable, accurate,and a breeze to carry. ShooterJD

Daguerre
January 7, 2003, 03:25 PM
Patriot... if your new Browning happens to be a .40 or 9mm Hi-Power, most likely you're in for a fantastic experience. I recently added a .40 SIlver Chrome Hi-Power to my dozen 1911's and other pistols. The Browning Hi-Power is equal to the finest pistols ever made... a superb feeling, pointing, shooting pistol with absolutely superb reliability. You will be thrilled with the Browning Hi-Power, I'm sure. And best of all... every shot is single action... can't beat that! All the HP trigger needs to be totally sublime is a lighter trigger pull, which is easily obtainable. Check it out:

http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/category.asp?value=007B

Patriot
January 7, 2003, 06:14 PM
Yes, it's a Hi-Power in 9mm.

Standard model.

Looking forward to shooting it...just need to find time to give it a proper cleaning. In all seriousness, I'm afraid to shoot it with the track record I have with returns.

Right now, in my head, it shoots perfect!!! Let's not ruin that for a while...huh? Ha Ha

bad_dad_brad
January 7, 2003, 10:41 PM
Silvertips work well in the PM9/MK9. Both guns have very tight designs. Look at the bullet, and if it is a little taller than the usual, then you might have trouble feeding.

The MK9 I have does deform the tip of Silvertips when either chambering, or extracting an unspent round. Weird but this does not seem to affect accuracy or reliability.

The PM9 and MK9 are quirky pistols. Some run flawlessly (mine does). Others cause problems. Like I said, a very tight design.

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