Click here (http://www.robarm.com/images/762x39mm_Target.jpg) for the proof. ;)
December 26, 2002, 04:02 AM
I prefer the ergonomics and detachable uppers of the AR.
My first post here.
December 26, 2002, 01:09 PM
"AK for cheapness"
Which part is cheap, the ammo or the rifle ? I see this posted a lot and always wondered. I see AKs close in price to the lower end ARs. I haven't bought 7.62x39 ammo in many years so I don't know what it costs, but I am buying Wolf .223 for under $3.00 for a box of twenty. I am well into my second case and have yet to have a malfunction.
I have never been in combat and I think the odds of hitting the powerball are better than my ever being in combat but for my purposes I much prefer the AR. I have owned one AK semi auto and thought it was decent. I wish I still owned it. But I am not willing to spend any AR money on another one. The AR is definiely a much more versitile platform. You can switch uppers at will. You can add accessories such as optics or lights pretty much at will. Accuracy is no comparison. Reliability for me is a non issue. I have never had reliablility problems with either rifle and under the conditions I use the rifles in, I don't expect to. If I had a problem with my AR, I can buy spare parts from thousands of venders and installing them is no problem. But, if I did have a problem I would use the spare parts I already have. I could change out the bolt with my spare in less than a minute easily.
Nothing like a good AR vs. AK thread to start things off right.
December 26, 2002, 03:00 PM
Real rifle: FAL
Poodle-shooter: Steyr AUG
December 27, 2002, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by 444
"AK for cheapness"
Which part is cheap, the ammo or the rifle ?
I was refering to the gun itself. Meaning more the various AK variants. Around here, a good condition AK/MAK/SAR-1/-2 are roughly half the price of an AR. Ammo is a draw but I don't shoot Wolf. Both of them are cheap enough to shot that almost everyone should have at least one or the other.
December 28, 2002, 01:03 PM
I use to have nightmares, about being in a gun fight & the gun itself malfunction during the shoot out.
So, being a owner of many firearms, I use alot of rifle's & handguns, and made sure they all function perfectly, but that wasnt good enough.
Best designed rifle, is a AK-47, it isnt picky on mags or ammo.
I also use the classic 1911 and Browning H-P.
AR's, are pretty and shoot a .22 bullet, and isnt as reliable, as I
'd like my firearms to be. :p
Already got 1 AR, and want another. Probably should pick up an AK at some point since I already have something in that caliber.
December 28, 2002, 10:09 PM
Voted AK - buying an AR. I think it's a matter of "overall best"
for what? Most of my firearms tend to be combat oriented. The
AR is "neater" and cleaner than Combloc weapons and appeals
to my pride of ownership, but the AK is stout as heck and
very reliable. A gun that can be easily broken or doesn't always
go bang when wanted is not "the best" for a combat enviroment.
The tight tolerances on the AR are just what add to that pride
of ownership thing and just the reason I voted AK.
We do seem to be starting this board off right, don't we! :D
December 28, 2002, 11:05 PM
The AR is so versatile.
December 29, 2002, 12:22 PM
AK-47 hands down. Inexpensive, powerful, fun to shoot, and combat accurate.:)
December 29, 2002, 12:43 PM
Well, now, Mr. Parker, after 52 years of thutty-ought-sixing, I hesitate to call the AK round "powerful". :D Adequate for some purposes, yeah, but hardly "powerful".
I remember when they first came out with the .223, and the newsies were all oohing and ahhing. None of the silly twits had ever heard of a Swift or Varminter. :)
(Snicker) The best thing to come out of modern military cartridges was necking down the .308 to 6mm and 7mm.
December 29, 2002, 01:28 PM
Don't use think "powerful" as it applies to military cartridges has been re-defined in the last 25 years? The latest military ammo both on and off the design boards continue to have less energy but the terminal performance remains pretty much the same. Rifle bullet designs have made great strides just like pistol bullets. Who would have seriously considered the .32 auto a serious self-defense round just 15 years ago? Yet the stats bear out that with the proper bullet (ie Silver Tips, CoreBon) even that mouse caliber can acheive a 60% or better performance rating.
December 29, 2002, 01:39 PM
Buy one, then buy a copy. Buy 10K rounds of ammo. Train like mad.
December 30, 2002, 12:54 AM
I didn't know we were comparing the '06 to anything in this thread. Sure I'll take the '06 to the 22 or times 39 Rusky but that's not the "poll" as it were.
I'm not a fan of the "22" but I like the times 39 rusky.:D
December 30, 2002, 09:19 AM
AK I like a rifle that actually goes bang every time.:D :D :D
Now I know where the "gangsta stance" came from that we see on TV:).
Just my .02,
High Planes Drifter
April 20, 2006, 09:20 AM
Dont Tread On Me, I laughed my butt off at that.
Why was the poll closed?
BTW, make mine an M1A;)
Don't Tread On Me
April 20, 2006, 03:40 PM
Thanks, I made it myself. I got jealous of all these dudes using photoshop, so I gave it a shot. Not bad for 1st time methinks.
Those photos are from that website that makes fun of the Liberian "freedom fighters"...one photo in that series has a guy wearing the old-style poofy blaze orange life preserver thinking it will provide ballistic protection (I assume)...another guy is trying to shoot an AK prone, but he bumped the floor plate off his AK mag and the entire spring is extended on the ground, but he remains in the ready prone position...
April 20, 2006, 05:44 PM
762x51. what is that rifle and where can i find it:D
another vote for the ar-15. voting against it would be like voting against my big brother. dads ar-15 has been to the range with me ever since that first time:rolleyes: it was purchased from my papa too. (he graduated to an m-16 and a colt comando)
April 20, 2006, 10:06 PM
wow!! talk about bringing a thread back from the dead!!! this was one of the first threads ever on this forum! first day, IIRC!