Letter to Facebook CEO


May 25, 2007, 05:44 PM
Hello fellow THRers, I apologize for the lack of participation here lately. This is an open letter to the CEO of Facebook, Inc. regarding my account being recently disabled. Hopefully I will get a response and this will make a great impact for the 2nd amendment community. Facebook is currently the 6th most visited website on the internet.

To: press@facebook.com
Mr. Mark Zuckerberg
Founder and CEO, Facebook, Inc.

Mr. Zuckerberg,

Recently, my Facebook profile was brought to the attention of the national media as possibly being that of the notorious Virginia Tech shooter. Of course, that was a falsehood and turned out to be an interesting experience of its own. However, a fair number of questions have risen as a result of me being falsely accused as the possible Virginia Tech shooter, one of which involves the stance of your company on firearms.

In my correspondence with your customer support representatives, it was deemed that “any pictures of people posing with guns or arsenals in a non-sporting context are inherently threatening to other users”. This in effect, is a violation of your Terms of Use.

Yesterday, my Facebook account was disabled. As dismayed as I was in this decision I was more upset particularly at one of the reasons cited for the disabling of my account. According to your records, in the past I had repeatedly posted “inappropriate content”, which I can only assume to be pictures of my firearms in a “non-sporting” context.

As awesome as your company is, I would have to respectfully disagree with this decision. Firearms have long played a critical role in the heritage of this nation. I strongly urge you to reconsider your opinion that firearms play no more of a role in this nation than simply just “sporting”. For example, consider the instances of collecting or personal protection. I am currently federally licensed as a Firearms Collector of Curio and Relic eligible firearms. This basically means that I am allowed to collect antique firearms that are more than 50 years old. Secondly, I would like to believe that many individuals, including myself, in this great nation employ firearms as a means of personal protection. I for one know several young ladies who carry firearms daily as a means of self protection.

The two examples of responsible firearm ownership that I have cited have been deemed by your actions to be offensive to the Facebook community. To simply collect for one’s pleasure or to protect oneself are in themselves, not offensive actions. My letter of appeal to you, as the CEO of Facebook, is for you to reconsider your stance on these issues. In the wake of the Virginia Tech shooting, it is an easy reaction to remove all firearm related photos from your site in an effort to minimize those that may do things as tragic and senseless as the aforementioned school shooting. However, this is an overreaction and in doing so, you limit the freedoms of the vast majority of those who are law abiding and whom deplore the type of violence that occurred at Virginia Tech. I ask this of you in the utmost respect, to take into consideration the large communities of individuals whose actions are currently being considered “offensive” on Facebook.

On the other hand, I would like to thank you for this unique community that you provide as well as to commend you on its success. Facebook holds a critical niche in the online community that you surely must be proud of. Perhaps if you are looking for another developer, I know this gun crazy person who is absolutely nuts about Facebook…

Lastly, I would like to formally invite you out to a shooting range if you are ever in the Washington DC area. It would be a great honor for me to introduce you to the culture of firearms here in Virginia. I believe that you would really enjoy it and see that there are many uses and purposes for firearms that extend far beyond that of a "sporting" nature.

This invitation is extended to all Facebook officers as well as its original co-founders. If you are receptive to this invitation, as a gesture of gratitude from the 2nd amendment community, I would like for you to have 1 of the 15 of my highly valued Russian Mosin Nagants M44s. These were featured on my Facebook profile to later end up on Fox News, CNN and ABC News. Since Facebook inadvertently played a role in contributing to my notoriety, I felt that it would be only proper for you to share a piece of that history.

I look forward to your response and urge you to carefully reconsider your opinion. As CEO of a successful emerging company, the great burden of making such decisions rests on you. I hope you can take my thoughts into consideration and thank you for your attention to this matter.

Very Respectfully,

Wayne Chiang
wchiang [at] vt.edu

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May 25, 2007, 09:21 PM
If it works I will paypal you some cash to help offset some of the cost of the rifle!

May 25, 2007, 09:25 PM
Bravo, man. Let us know what you find out.. +1 on the paypal thing.


May 26, 2007, 01:44 PM
Guys, send a lot of simple letters. Having more than one e-mail address wouldn't hurt either...

One thing to consider is how much the guy's company may contribute to underage binge drinking, drug use, and trolling by pedophiles... Wayne's gun collection is rather benign when considered around that...

May 30, 2007, 12:32 PM
Good letter, and +1 to PayPal if they take you up on the offer.

Bogie also made some spot-on comments about the other dangers of Facebook.

Anyone think this should be part of the "letters" sticky?

May 30, 2007, 01:46 PM
Guys, please no commentary, especially negative commentary in Activism. This is a place for action, not bitching.

So if instead of bitching, write some letters like Waynes.

May 30, 2007, 02:36 PM
If you cop a defeatist attitude in this forum, we’ll boot you. We don’t have time for crying. Any extraneous posts not directly related to the activity get deleted.

Oughtta make that sucker blink, too.

May 30, 2007, 02:50 PM
I joined your facebook group and sent a message to the community service.


May 30, 2007, 03:19 PM
I'm joining your group and sending an email.

May 30, 2007, 05:05 PM
Wow. While that sucks about the "you=shooter" thing, I applaud your efforts to still write a courteous letter to the CEO explaning things and defending your position in a calm, rational manner.

I think I'm already a member of your group, though.

May 31, 2007, 06:32 PM
Facebook replies:

Hi xxxxx,

Please have your friend contact warning@facebook.com from his login
email address so we can look further into this matter.

Thanks for contacting Facebook,

Customer Support Representative

June 2, 2007, 04:34 AM
I don't know why people use Facebook anyway. you're giving them perpetual rights to your likeness, images, and anything you post there. So you post a picture there, THEY OWN IT.

They can literally tell you not to post that picture anywhere else, and use copyright laws against you.

June 2, 2007, 09:57 AM
WChiang has been reinstated on Facebook... good job y'all


June 2, 2007, 10:11 AM
What are the mods so upset about in this thread, I dont see what they are referring to. Maybe it got deleted out?


June 2, 2007, 10:18 AM
they don't want people bashing on wchiang

June 2, 2007, 10:51 AM
Why would anyone here bash on him? Except for maybe I am jealous over his rifle collection.

June 2, 2007, 11:34 AM
Yeah. The Bogie hateses the Wayne... Until the Bogie turns around, and sees the safe fulla AR-15s and "interesting" rifles, and realizes that he really needs to work on that attention span thing... Now where was he...

June 2, 2007, 12:39 PM
I would like to make a comment that should be very relevant to this thread, as well as all of our fights for 2A Freedoms....

Why in the world would you use a 100% anti-gun company while trying to fight for the freedoms that they are actively suppressing.

I truly thought that it was a joke at first.
Originally posted by todd740:
If it works I will paypal you some cash to help offset some of the cost of the rifle!
Originally posted by HeedJSU:
Bravo, man. Let us know what you find out.. +1 on the paypal thing.
Originally posted by strat81:
Good letter, and +1 to PayPal if they take you up on the offer.

June 2, 2007, 02:01 PM
I saw a pro-gun website that suggested paypal wasn't actually anti-gun, they just didn't want to assume liability in gun transactions or something. Can't remember how it went though.

June 2, 2007, 02:25 PM
I am on facebook to, My buddy got the same letter, cause he had pics with him and his AK, thats not right.

June 2, 2007, 03:01 PM
they don't want people bashing on wchiang

It doesn't have to do with people bashing Wayne. It has to do with the purpose and direction of the Activism forum.

Posts here should be involved with undertaking activism, or highlighting what actions you've taken and what, if any, the result was.

The toughest lesson people will have to learn in here is to refrain from blocking. If you don't like a particular course of action, don't shoot it down or whine about how it won't work.

Instead, start your own activist thread to get people to act on your ideas.

However, if all you want to do is whine and complain, go to L&P.

June 2, 2007, 04:23 PM
hey if guys check out the video's on his facebook site (for those that have it) or perhaps WChiang might post the videos. I think we need to send a message to the CTV, their anchors acted extremely unprofessionally and should be reprimanded or fired for the way they acted towards mr Chiang

June 3, 2007, 01:39 AM
Why in the world would you use a 100% anti-gun company while trying to fight for the freedoms that they are actively suppressing.

Don't you think it would be a crucial victory if we can get such a company to publicly embrace firearms? To have this whole drama come out in out in our favor would definitely make headlines somewhere. There is no denying that Facebook holds a critical niche in Internet traffic and to have them on our side would be nice. I am merely trying to represent our side of the argument to a liberal biased company.

MPJ already has an article on the issue: http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/188043.php

As for the CTV comments, the original interview can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QSC4RqdMII

It's a bit retarded, because they said I was going to talk about my experience at Virginia Tech, but instead blindly walked into a firearms debate. The bit of controversy is the off-air comments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U69ABffO-Y

June 3, 2007, 10:29 AM
Wayne- Make a Facebook group about what they did to you. Ill join it. We need to stick together in Facebook as well as elsewhere.

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