Does anyone store or carry in Condition 3?


January 8, 2003, 02:59 PM
Does anyone here store or carry their defensive firearm(s) in Condition 3? I can see condition 1 for carry if I could in MN and I use a good holster. For home defense, I don't really see the difference between Condition 3 and racking a shotgun slide.

I like the extra bit of knowledge required if somehow someone got into my safe.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Condition 1. You all should do what you like and my thoughts would change quickly (as quickly as I could rack a slide) if I had a percieved or real threat. I'm just curious on other reasons any of you use Condition 3.

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January 8, 2003, 03:31 PM
I almost always keep chambers empty as a safety precaution. I prefer to carry chamber empty and saftey off. No one will ever negligently shoot my firearm.
I may change my ways as I gain more experience.

January 8, 2003, 03:35 PM
Cocked and Locked



January 8, 2003, 03:49 PM
I store one of my guns in the safe with a full clip and the chamber empty.

January 8, 2003, 04:04 PM
Mag in, safety off and empty chamber is how I prefer to carry an auto as well.

January 8, 2003, 04:14 PM
If a gun has ammo in it there is one in the chamber. For carry if you need the gun you need it NOW not a second down the road, once you have had time to rack the slide. Also racking the slide takes both hands, what if one hand is busy protecting yourself?


Sean Smith
January 8, 2003, 04:23 PM
Store: Yes.

Carry: No. Cocked & locked.

Around-the-house: It depends. :D

January 8, 2003, 04:26 PM
Handguns on person are fully loaded, cartridge in the chamber, safety (if applicable) engaged.
Handguns in the safe are fully unloaded with empty chamber.
Shotgun by bed is fully loaded, empty chamber, safety off.
Most rifles in the safe are fully unloaded, empty chamber.
One rifle in the safe is fully loaded, cartridge in chamber, safety engaged.

It's what I'm comfortable with.

January 8, 2003, 04:59 PM
Guns in safe-unloaded-magazines empty-stored separate from guns. Gun on person-fulkly loaded-oneup spout-safety on


January 8, 2003, 05:31 PM
Do you CCW in MPLS?

What was the reason you used?


January 8, 2003, 05:43 PM
At home, condition 3. Out & about, round chambered, hammer decocked & safety off.

January 8, 2003, 06:14 PM
the only pistol that i carry in condition 3 is a 9mm chinese tokarev and that's only because it's single action and i don't know if i trust the safety. it's only intended to be a back-up weapon that lives in my car, but i have carried it a few times. the funny thing is that it's almost as accurate as my sig p-228.

January 8, 2003, 06:46 PM
Storage, not carry.

January 8, 2003, 09:02 PM
Carry, Condition 1, Storage in safe condition 3, other in house storage condition 1.

January 8, 2003, 09:09 PM
Chambered and ready to rock when CCW is absorbing my body heat.

When in the safe, all of my firearms are empty.

HD SG is loaded full, with chamber give the BG something to think about when I need to rack the slide.

January 8, 2003, 09:24 PM
In my safe, condition 3.
When I start to carry (1 month), Condition 1.
If you can't rack that slide with one hand, you might as well hit the mag release and throw the buillets at the BG. I am horrible at baseball so I will keep one in the pipe.

January 8, 2003, 10:09 PM
My guns are fully loaded. Always, whether stored or around the house. Condition 3. Carry gun (s), round chambered, decocked. I don't have any "empty guns". I never carry a round chambered in a rifle or shotgun tho. So the safetys on some of my rifles have never been used.

January 8, 2003, 10:53 PM
during storage only...

Condition 2 when carried ;)

January 9, 2003, 12:41 AM
If a gun has ammo in it there is one in the chamber. For carry if you need the gun you need it NOW not a second down the road, once you have had time to rack the slide. Also racking the slide takes both hands, what if one hand is busy protecting yourself?

If you need your gun in less than one second, you're SOL anyways. Keep alert. Be aware of your surroundings. People shouldn't be walking around with their H.U.Y.A. in the first place that they'd actually need their gun in 1/10 a second. But everyone should do what is most comfortable for them honestly.

January 9, 2003, 01:04 AM
Pull the trigger, get a bang. No kids or visitors even see them unless invited to, and that's when the mags come out, the chamber cleared and the actions get locked open.

Kahr carrier
January 9, 2003, 08:09 AM
I leave mine hot Condition 1 chambered and loaded and locked up except for the one in my hand.:neener:

January 9, 2003, 02:44 PM
shot gun, .22 rifle, AK-47 all with loaded mags and empty chambers.

MKII totaly unloaded.

1911 cocked and locked in a simplex lock box (5 yr old around) next to the bed

P-11 and P-32 (carry guns) in a smaller safe in my room chambered with a full clip in a holster (simply pick up holster and gun and put it on, never an exposed trigger)

January 9, 2003, 03:14 PM
Uncocked and locked DA/SA Beretta 92fs bed side gun. The best is a decocker in DA/SA ala SIG or Ruger P95 DC no safety to worry about at all.

January 9, 2003, 03:25 PM
I leave a G23 locked, loaded and holstered by the bed.


January 9, 2003, 03:34 PM
Last night there was a car with just its parking lights on near my house. I live on a posted private road and no one except for the residents or police are allowed on it. In fact when I got my new truck last week my neighbor was going to call the cops until he saw it by my house.

I went to the safe, pulled out the shotgun, empty chamber, 7 in the mag and reached for....what? Oh dear. Revolver(s) loaded, .45, .40, 9mm all with full mags and empty chambers. Since I just put shock buffers in the Brownings, I opted for the 1927. Racked the slide, ah Nirvana, :evil: and strolled to the window. It was gone.

Checked with the Chief this morning, he thinks it was one of his guys on a dog complaint.

Did I mention my Kahr MK9 that is always with me?:D

January 10, 2003, 09:46 AM
When I'm in my car/truck, I can only transport a firearm "unloaded, and fully enclosed in a..." Bla, bla, bla. This means an unloaded handgun, in a zipped pistol-case, and a loaded mag or speed-loader in my pocket.

Handy? Nope. Fast? Hah! Better than a cocked & locked .45 ACP at home? Yup.

Would this be Condition 4? Hmmm... Zero = cocked & unlocked; one = cocked & locked; two = none in the pipe, but loaded mag; three = no mag inserted and none in the pipe. Since there's a case involved, this must be Condition 4.


January 10, 2003, 10:00 AM
Does anyone store or carry in Condition 3? Example, please sir can you wait while I load my gun before you attack me? Condition one so I don't have to ask that question:banghead: .

January 10, 2003, 11:38 PM
If it's on my person or directly and immediately under my personal control, it's condition 1.

If it's in storage, it's unloaded and the mag is out of the grip.

If the wife and I are the only ones in the house it MAY be condition 3 if it's just on the bedside table.

If anyone else at all is in the house, it's on my person and the first paragraph pertains.

January 11, 2003, 11:45 PM
Do you CCW in MPLS?

Nope -- I said IF I could carry in MN. Waiting for the law to change and hopefully helping it along where I can.

January 13, 2003, 09:49 AM
In the safe, guns are unloaded.

On my person, gunvault or nightstand. Loaded and ready to go. This is one reason I like the HK P7 so damn much.

January 14, 2003, 12:49 AM
Does anyone store or carry in Condition 3?

Entire armies.

Thad Coyne
January 14, 2003, 06:29 PM

I store some guns in condition III in the safe. I do this to prevent cook offs in the unlikely event of fire. I carry in condition I.


Thad Coyne

January 14, 2003, 11:24 PM
Cocked, locked and ready to rock. The only way to go.

I strongly believe all of you should do it YOU way. You got to be comfortable with your weapon.

I carry my Steyr M40 HOT and my Taurus M27 Tracker loaded, but I have to cock the hammer.

I don't feel comfortable carrying my Ballester Molina .45, so when I do, it's NO round in the chamber. Use it mostly for target practice though.


January 15, 2003, 10:11 PM
cocked & locked 24/7

Bob R
January 15, 2003, 11:40 PM

And all this time I thought the two most useless things were the runway behind you and the altitude above you.

cocked and locked for carry.


January 16, 2003, 12:03 AM
I'm with eagles1181.
If a gun has ammo in it, it's got one in the pipe.

Cocked & Locked.


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