H&K USP Compacts


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AnklePocket
January 9, 2003, 10:57 PM
Thinking about maybe one of these down the road. Is there any particular caliber (9mm, .40 or .45) that's better suited for it for any reason? I shot one in .45 that was kind of harsh if I remember correctly.

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10-Ring
January 10, 2003, 12:20 AM
I have had my USPc 9 for less than a year and only about 2000 rounds, but so far, it has served me well. I have shot the USPc 45 and it too is a fine performer. It may come down to which caliber you have the most experience and confidence in.

Shmackey
January 10, 2003, 12:29 AM
I like the .45 for no particular reason. I think hi-caps are either nonexistent or close, so you gain all of two rounds by going smaller than .45.

Climb14er
January 10, 2003, 12:33 AM
Smooth, easy to shoot, 1911 type controls, top quality, inexpensive ammo, choices for powerful 9mm defense ammo. I also have .45 acp's and the 9mm is my CCW. HK makes one fine pistol!

10-Ring
January 10, 2003, 12:34 AM
Just FYI...the USPc 45 only has 8 round mags, no "hi-caps" ever existed for anyone. You may be thinking of the fullsize USP 45 which has the 10 rounders & LE/Military 12 rounders.

Slick
January 10, 2003, 12:44 AM
I've got the compact in 9mm and it is one sweet pistol. I've had absolutely no trouble with it, and it's more accurate than I could ever hope to be. Great gun!
I shot a .45 and liked it too, but it did have quite a bit more muzzle rise and zapped the wrist a little more. I still enjoyed it though! :)
Pick one up, you won't regret it!
Slick

Skunkabilly
January 10, 2003, 02:09 AM
I have a USP45C, I like it but I wish I got it in 9mm.

45C is great, but personal preference is 9mm.

M1911
January 10, 2003, 08:30 AM
I've got one in .40 and another in .45. The .45 is just a smidge big for my medium-sized hands; the .40 fits me better. I find the perceived recoil to be a bit harsher in the .40 than the .45. The .45 seems to be fairly mild in terms of recoil. Both have a fair bit of muzzle rise. If you find the recoil objectionable in the .40 or .45, then you might consider the 9mm. Otherwise, I'd go with one of the larger calibers.

Kahr carrier
January 10, 2003, 09:03 AM
I Like the Usp in 40 cal.:)

XavierBreath
January 11, 2003, 01:41 AM
I bought my first HK USP, the fullsize .40 used at a good price. It came with trijicon sights, holster, box, and four mags. I went to the range and started ten ringing immediately. Needless to say, this became my favorite pistol.

I liked it so much that I bought a new USP Compact in .40, although I got a great deal oin it. The fullsize is still my favorite, it just fits me. I have to adjust to the Compact a bit.

Try to shoot them both first. The recoil is a bit more on the compact, of course, but it is a barely perceptible difference.

Shmackey
January 11, 2003, 01:59 AM
Just FYI...the USPc 45 only has 8 round mags, no "hi-caps" ever existed for anyone. You may be thinking of the fullsize USP 45 which has the 10 rounders & LE/Military 12 rounders.

That's what I was saying. The .45 is only 8 rounds and the 9mm is only 10, so you gain only two rounds in capacity by going with the smaller round.

rick_reno
January 11, 2003, 02:39 AM
I've got one in 45acp. I've put 5-6k rounds thru it, and have never had a jam or a failure to fire. I have Colts, Kimbers, Glocks and Sigs in 45acp also - and they have all failed to work correctly at least once. This is why I carry the H&K.

sonoranjack
January 11, 2003, 03:44 AM
Back in Jul I bought a used HK USP9c. I test fire it once on the range & was impressed. My carry pistol was a Glock 17 with I wasn't shooting accurately. My Glock has a 3.5# trigger. The HK I shoot SA C&L. So I shot the HK/Glock side by side. I must have figgured out the problems I was having with my Glock because by Sep the HK was/is for sale. The HK USP9c SA trigger isn't better than my Glock 17 w/ 3.5# trigger. The Glock also has a quicker trigger reset & I shoot the Glock better. Now I might have liked the HK USP9F better, but I have never shot 1.

New_comer
January 11, 2003, 05:44 AM
The recoil from the three calibers don't differ much in a USP full size, owing to the twin recoil springs which dampens the impact. The polymer buffer in the compact may not be as much of a shock absorber, but with a 20,000 rd lifespan, would definitely be doing its part in taming the kick.

AND, as the USP was designed for the high pressure 40SW, you'd be served equally well in any of the three calibers that you choose. :D

Coltdriver
January 11, 2003, 11:34 AM
I love my H&K Compact .45.

By comparison to a Colt 1911 that I have the H&K has a smoother recoil and is, for me, more manageable.

Mine has been utterly reliable with several thousand rounds of all kinds of ammo through it and never a failure to fire or a stovepipe or failure to go into battery, nothing. Just plain reliable.

The accuracy is excellent and the trigger/safety/decocker options give you any combo you can think of.

I have never shot the 9mm but you can be sure the recoil is going to be less. I don't care for .40 in much of anything because the round seems to have that +p snap to it that makes second shots tough and overall controllability hard to achieve.

Either choice and you have a great pistol

Morgan
January 11, 2003, 04:20 PM
Just FYI, 9mm and .40 full-capacity magazines for the full-size USP are readily available, if a bit pricey ($65 is a good price).

USP's of all sort are damn fine guns.

New_comer
January 11, 2003, 08:52 PM
STRANGE!!! :scrutiny:

Morgan has got "0" posts.

Paging Admin...:)

Island Beretta
January 11, 2003, 10:40 PM
Shot the USP 9c and the Glock 19 side by side. The USP kicked more, muzzle flipped more and was a slower shooter. It was only slightly more accurate than the Glock 19. Where I am from the USP 9c is being sold for more than twice the price of the Glock 19. As you can tell, the choice is a no-brainer!!!

Strange though despite these shortcomings I tended to like the USP more than the Glock!! Maybe Glock has a face that only a mother (Gaston) could love!!:what:

Redlg155
January 12, 2003, 07:48 PM
The USP .45C is my primary carry gun mainly because it is 100 percent reliable. Pull the trigger and it will fire, eject and chamber another round without fail.

It's a good size pistol, but just about anything carrying 8+1 of .45 ACP is a pretty good size weapon. Still it is small enough to be comfortably carried IWB.

Good SHooting
RED

Duke of Lawnchair
January 13, 2003, 02:04 AM
Any USP in 9mm will be a tame shooter. I find that the .40S&W USPs in fullsize are a bit harsh compared to their 9mm and .45ACP brethren. I'd imagine the compacts would act the same as well.

USPs are solid firearms.

Hindsight being 20/20, I would've opted for a USP in 9mm or .45ACP instead of my .40S&W.

HS/LD
January 13, 2003, 12:08 PM
I have an H&K USP Compact in .40

I have probably 6-7k through it. Never... NEVER had a problem.

The gun was designed around the .40 round and I believe is best performing in that caliber. The .45 is slightly larger and this can mean the grip could be a little too large for some people.

As for 9mm why have 11 x 9mm when you could have 11 x .40S&W?

I have carried mine all day everyday for several years now. Yes the .40 has some snap to it but just shoot it more and you will get used to it. :)

Regards,
HS/LD

tetchaje1
January 13, 2003, 12:32 PM
USP 40 Compacts jump around quite a bit in recoil, but I have never had a single malfunction out of mine. I am going to get a 357SIG barrel soon or later, and that will replace the 40 for carry.

Beware of dropping below a 4" barrel length in the 45 -- your selection of ammunition that will actually expand drops dramatically.

AnklePocket
January 13, 2003, 12:56 PM
Can it be bought as a .357 Sig? The HK website shows just 9, .40 and .45 although they mention the .357 Sig.

Shake
January 13, 2003, 02:42 PM
IIRC they discontinued the .357 SIG caliber offering?? I think they were rare to begin with, may be even rarer now.

Shake

mpthole
January 13, 2003, 04:28 PM
Don't know if H&K still offers the compact in .357 Sig, but I know for a fact they used to. I have the the .45 and 9m in both the full-size and compact version and I really like them all. :D The 9mm Compact grip is just a wee bit smaller than the .45 Compact grip, so I had to put on a Hogue slip-on-grip-all thing to make it more shootable for me. My GF was very comfortable shooting the 9mm C, but not the .45 C. Personally, I carry (when I can) and shoot the .45 C in IDPA.

larryw
January 13, 2003, 05:05 PM
After shooting all the USP Compact models, my wife decided the 45 was for her. I'm allowed to shoot it occasionally (I get to clean it frequently--I can't put my finger on it, but something just doesn't feel right there...). Of all our guns, the ones I'd first grab for defense say HK on the slide.

A friend has a USP 40C and bought a 357 barrel. Real sweet setup: two guns in one.

Onslaught
January 14, 2003, 05:05 PM
I was at a shop today that had a USP Compact in .357 Sig... If anyone's actually interested, I can put you in touch with them. Sticker price was only $599.00.

In a full sized USP, I like the .45...

but

In the Compact, I MUCH prefer the .40.

Recoil between the .40 and .45 Compact, in my experience, is the same. I tried to tell a difference between the two at the range. I had my buddy's 40C, and I rented a .45C. I used the same brand of ammo (CCI Blazer). He'd load the two pistols, mix them up and lay both on the table in front of me. I'd fire one, then the other, two shots each... I couldn't tell which was which.

I have never fired a USP anything in 9mm, so I don't have an opinion.

tetchaje1
January 14, 2003, 07:31 PM
The 357SIG barrels are spendy at $205 a piece, but it sure beats the heck out of paying the inflated HK prices for another pistol...

...I really can't complain about getting my USP Compact NIB for $495, though. :D

Kitt
January 14, 2003, 09:29 PM
My daily carry is the Compact 40 but I picked up a 357 sig barrel and I am very impressed with the Speer Gold Dot 125 bullet.

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