January 10, 2003, 01:17 PM
hi there

I'm thinking of buying the 9mm para GOLDEN SABERS from Remington.

does any of you guys have experience with these :confused:
should I go with the 124 gr or the 147 gr:confused:
what's the price for a box of 50 :confused:

I don't know wether these hollow-points are legal or not in Belgium?
if they aren't, the heck with it! than I'll just buy them in Holland or Germany.

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January 10, 2003, 01:33 PM
I already found the price on the net: $ 7.40 for a box of 25, pretty expensive, but than again, this is not the kind of round you use for target-training or plinking :evil:

January 10, 2003, 01:46 PM
I think the 124gr Golden Sabres are arguably the best 9mm round you can buy. I also like the 124gr +p Gold Dots, which is what I carry on the rare occasions when I use a 9mm.

Here's a web page:


Good data there. The author doesn't like the GD, but the record it has earned show that it is an excellent round, which has served many well.

January 10, 2003, 04:26 PM
I've paid abt $10-12/25 for them. Get the more recent "Bonded" ones - less change of core-jacket separation than the old ones. I think they're a bit overpriced/rated and have gone entirely to 124+p Gold Dots, new manuf., from Ga Arms:


They have great stuff, excellent prices.

January 10, 2003, 08:03 PM
I've carried the 124gr +P for a couple of years,first in a G-19 and now a P-95DC.The golden sabres have always been real accurate for me and i like the lack of muzzle flash.I paid $7.50/25 online compared to 14-17 bucks in the local stores.

Dave R
January 10, 2003, 08:04 PM
That's what I carry in my 9mm.

I picked 'em because they group well in my gun.

Later, I did some informal expansion testing, shooting them at wet phone books bound together. Expansion was good, even through 5 layers of denim. On the 6th layer of denim, they stopped expanding.

"Wound channels" from the expanded ones were pretty impressive. Penetration was good, too. Seems to me like a good bullet.

January 10, 2003, 10:37 PM
I'm using the 124gr +P Golden Sabers in my Kahr PM9. I agree the muzzle flash is low and they are acurate.

I found the "bonded GS" online for $8.80 for 25 rounds.

January 11, 2003, 09:12 AM
thanks for your kind responses gentlemen :cool:
I've checked, and they are ILLEGAL in Belgium :uhoh:
so maybe it isn't a smart thing to put golden sabers in my glock for home-defence. don't wanna shoot a burglar illegaly :D
I may buy a box or 2 in Holland just for the heck of it. may I :fire: in :evil: for this!

January 11, 2003, 11:19 AM
That's what I use in my P-11 (124 gr) and I need some more. The place I got them from last time is out of stock can anyone post where they can get them for $7.50/25? Thanks.

January 11, 2003, 12:44 PM
I buy from Kiesler's (http://www.kieslersonline.com/index.asp).

They have both standard and bonded Golden Sabers. Shipping is cheap too.

January 11, 2003, 03:11 PM
Yeah. As a matter of fact, my MK9 is stoked with them even as we speak!!! :D
Good round. It feeds in guns that Gold Dots will not, like the Walther P5!!!

January 12, 2003, 07:15 PM
I buy from Kiesler's.
me too... that's who is out of stock.... :(

Kahr carrier
January 13, 2003, 05:32 AM
YZGUY -nice gun pics.:)

January 13, 2003, 11:13 AM
thanks, still missing 1 though.... when I build up the cash I want a .308 bolt with a good scope, but living in the city I can't even shoot it at anything longer than 50 yards (in door range) at anyplace close to me, so it's tough to justify the $$... but one of these days... :)

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