Advice needed: I want a Cap and Ball revolver.


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goon
July 26, 2003, 01:50 AM
What is the quality of Traditions revolvers?
I would like to get a percussion revolver, probably an 1860 Colt or '58 Remington. I know that traditions makes the former.
What about the guns that Cabelas sells?

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Sir Galahad
July 26, 2003, 03:31 AM
Traditions makes some of the lower end muzzleloaders. I'd shy away from their cap-and-ball revolvers. Articles like those, you want to get a decent one. The ones in Cabela's catalog are usually functional. Myself, I managed to get hold of a Lyman M1860 .44 with a dovetailed front sight in a trade.:D If you can spend the extra simoleons, the Ruger Old Army is a helluva great piece. A good way to find good prices on these pistols is to check out the online Civil War Sutlers. They'll usually list the maker of the revolver, so you can pick the maker you want.

Mike Weber
July 26, 2003, 05:11 AM
The Traditions and the Cabela's revolvers are both being made by Pietta now. IIRC the Traditions pistols were once made by Armi San Marco and the quality wasn't very good. Some of the earlier Pietta revolvers were prone to problems. I had to do quite a bit of work and fine tuning on my older Pietta 1851 Navies and 1860 Armies to get them working properly. A couple of years ago Pietta installed brand new CNC machinery in their factory and their quality improved a whole lot. I've bought four Pietta 1858 Remingtons in the last year and the quality on them has been flawless. The first thing that I usually do with any new BP revolver is replace the nipples with brand new aftermarket stainless steel nipples. This seems to cure most of the ignition problems with these revolvers Seems to be an area of shortcoming with most manufacturers of these revolvers. I've been very pleased with my newer Pietta revolvers.

Zeke Menuar
July 26, 2003, 01:22 PM
I have one of the Armi San Marco 44 cal revolvers bought from Traditions a few years ago. I have not had any of the problems cited in earlier posts. The gun is accurate and reliable. I have put a lot of rounds through it in the last five or so years. I am pretty zealous about cleaning it. It's my favorite gun. Lots of smoke, noise and history.

ZM

goon
July 31, 2003, 01:34 AM
I may have found the one I want.
The sportsmans guide has them.
They are '61 Colt knock offs (Navy Arms I think) with a 5.5 inch barrel. Blued, squared triggerguard, and .44 caliber (Thought the '61 was a .36, but is is still a cool looking gun.)
Hell, even if they were put together with leftover parts, they would still be fun shooters.
Now I have to decide between one of them and that PA rifle I want...and the Contender I came across the other day... and more C&R rifles.

scotjute
July 31, 2003, 10:41 AM
Post a report after you've shot it!

4v50 Gary
July 31, 2003, 12:25 PM
Go to the revolver forum and there's a thread that's a few days old. It may be entitled "So educate me about black powder revolvers." Member Rugerfreak (do a search under his name) mentions that there's a shop selling the blued Ruger Old Army for $259. That's CHEAP. Get the best and you don't have to worry about anything.

goon
July 31, 2003, 09:45 PM
I have handled the Old Army, and they do seem to be a very well built handgun.
But I found that the Ruger grip frame doesn't fit my hand very well. I then disregarded that knowledge, and found out again.
I also prefer the traditional lines of the Colt and Remington repros. When I finally decide to get one, it will be one of those.
Doubtless that many of you guys have seen my various posts about how I want one of these and one of those.
Here is the real story.
My biggest problem is that I am poor and cheap. It really takes a lot of thought for me to buy a gun. I almost always have to choose from more than one gun that I want when I buy one.
Right now, I want a Pennsylvania rifle, a Percussion revolver, a FAL, or maybe a Ruger M77 Stainless synthetic in .308. I also have a love for Curio and Relic firearms, particularly Mosin Nagants.
Buying a gun for me is almost a painful choice.
I just consider myself fortunate to live in a country where I have so many choices.

As an aside, I found a T/C PA hunter today at a local store I frequent. I am thinking that it might make a good compromise for my first muzzleloader and a good modern gun that will stand up to my rough style of hunting.
All of my guns end up with scratches and worn off bluing within the first year.
I need a tough gun, not really a pretty one.
At least not yet.:D

Old Fuff
July 31, 2003, 11:27 PM
Goon:

Go to: www.dixiegunworks.com and get a copy of Dixie's catalog. it has 700-plus pages of information on black powder guns of all kinds, and the book only costs five bucks.

They also have parts and kits - in other words you can build you're own muzzle loader and save money. I often do this. I think you will be delighted with what you find.

goon
August 1, 2003, 02:24 AM
OF- I already know that site well. Now that you mention it, it would be a very good place to start. I was looking over kits for around $375 for the PA rifle I want on their site the other day. A kit would also allow me to build it the way that I want it. I did a little research last night on them. What I am wanting is called a "Poorman's gun", I think. No frills; just a plain working shooter. I appreciate that kind of thing.
I am also thinking hard about the Blue Ridge rifles that Cabelas sells. They are made by Pedersoli. I don't know much about them yet though. Need to do more research.
I am thinking that the muzzleloader may get pushed back by a few months though. The FAL may come next, simply because if I don't get one now, I may not ever be able to get one again.
But Flintlocks don't seem to be high on the priority list for anti-gunners.
Then again, hunting with one this year would really be cool.
And I could piss off everyone at the range.
All I would have to do is stand downwind and let the gun do the rest.:evil:
Think I will get the catalog. I can use it to figure out what I want to put together while I am saving up the money to do it.;)

Old Fuff
August 1, 2003, 01:09 PM
You're close. The right name is "Poor Boy." These were the kind of rifles used by many that couldn't afford a more expensive rifle, and they were particularly popular in the Southern mountain country. Usually no butt plate. a hole drilled in the side of the buttstock to hold grease for a patch, single trigger with a simple trigger guard .... In other words all the necessary basics but nothing more.

Not many of the originals survived because they weren't "fancy enough" to save.

Dixie calls them a "Tennessee Mountain Rifle" and offers them in kits or finished rifles. The finished rifles are expensive ($625.00) but you can buy the parts and make you're own for a fraction of that.

USNCHIEF
September 16, 2006, 04:38 PM
I received a Armi San Maroc (Made In Italy) 1860 Army Steel Cal 44 RV610 as a gift in the 1980's. It has never been fired. I am a shooter but not BP. I want to trade this for something that I can use. Can someone tell me what I might ask for at a gun store. I am thinking of a Ruger mini 14 or the Ruger 10/22 rifle.

pohill
September 16, 2006, 05:36 PM
Traditions imports Piettas, Taylors imports Ubertis. They don't make them, - they import them. Both companies, Traditions and Taylors, are good people to work with if you have a problem with either make. Check out Midway.com for some good deals on BP revolvers.

.38 Special
September 19, 2006, 02:13 AM
Goon --

I am also thinking hard about the Blue Ridge rifles that Cabelas sells. They are made by Pedersoli. I don't know much about them yet though. Need to do more research.

I have a Blue Ridge flintlock that I bought from Cabela's a decade or so ago. The stock is plain, and IMO the touchhole is too small (I drilled and thinned it) but it is absolutely worth the money. With the touchhole modification it goes off as regularly -- and almost as quickly -- as a good caplock. If I didn't have one I would buy one.

As for the thread topic, I have several revolvers bought from Cabela's and have been perfectly pleased with all of them. The Walker Colt in particular is a very nice gun, although I did have to replace the mainspring at about 2,000 rounds.

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