No shooting tomorrow, I guess... But it's a White Christmas...


Mike Irwin
December 25, 2002, 11:46 AM
Well, I had wanted to go to the range in the county where my parents live. Nice place. Cheap, and lots of different ranges to try out.

Well, at the moment we have 6" on the ground, and at least another 6" coming. It's snowing like crazy right now, and has been for a couple of hours.

This is the first time we've had snow on Christmas Day in central Pennsylvania for a long time.

It's pretty, but I really wanted to go shooting now that my back is feeling a bit better.

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December 25, 2002, 11:50 AM
I'd actually like to see a little sprinkling of snow around here. Nothing but rain,rain and more rain... ;)

December 25, 2002, 11:52 AM
I'm jealous. Here in Minnesota, there's just a minimal coating of snow on the ground. You can still see the grass showing through. It is, at least, bright and sunny.

Mike Irwin
December 25, 2002, 12:41 PM
At least you guys will be able to get to the range!

The road back to the range is at least half a mile,

I've got a Subaru Outback, but that won't cut it.

December 25, 2002, 12:55 PM
Well, the only way to do range time in NH today is with the Nickel 50 and Huskies. We're in the process of accumulating 20" or so. Kewl!!

December 25, 2002, 01:01 PM
I want to go to the range today, but family duties call. Right now it's sunny outside and warm short sleeve weather here in NW Florida.

Given the choice I'd rather be back in Alaska, but my wife likes it here. Go figure.

Good Shooting

December 25, 2002, 01:18 PM
Christmas & Thanksgiving are the 2 days I don't mind getting a good case of the warm & fuzzy's w/ friends & family. I'll go shooting tomorrow...besides the ranges are closed :D

December 25, 2002, 01:23 PM
I'm just itchin' to get to the range today! I waiting patiently for my house full of people to thin out.

December 25, 2002, 01:53 PM
Yeah, it be snowin! Not the biggest thrill of my life but I`m not going anywhere.:o

H&K Fan
December 25, 2002, 02:11 PM
I will be at the range within a week or so, unless the wind chill is down to the 'teens. If it is raining the blued firearms simply won't make the trip.

2nd Amendment
December 25, 2002, 02:11 PM
It snowed all nite here. I went out and walked around my land in it. There's nothing better than a steady snow late in the nite. the whisper of it hitting what has already fallen to the ground, the muted sounds of small animals, the rustle of wind and the dim almost bluish glow that seems to backlight everything. I can go a few more days without shooting for that. It's the only thing that makes winter tolerable.

December 25, 2002, 02:38 PM
At least yours is frozen. :(

It's been raining like crazy all day and quite windy. Blech.

Mike Irwin
December 25, 2002, 02:50 PM
Guys, I'm talking about going to the range tomorrow, not on Christmas Day.

As for all of the ranges being closed... Hehehehehe...

My parents live in a rural area, folks. The range is ALWAYS open if you're a member and have the most recent combination to the lock on the gate.


I think your area of New York is going to get your snow tonight as this storm reorganizes off the Jersey Coast and plows up through to New England.

December 25, 2002, 02:54 PM
Hmm....maybe I'll break out the shovels after all. Thanks for the heads up :)

December 25, 2002, 02:59 PM
Our range is open 24/7.
bit sloppy tho now, had a little snow since last tues, full week.
But tis 50 degrees and sloppy.



Calamity Jane
December 25, 2002, 03:40 PM
It's a rather white Christmas 'round these parts here, too - we got about an inch of snow last night.

Not going to the range today, though. I'm still resting my trigger finger from shootin' 200 rounds through the AR-15 day before yesterday! :D ;)

December 25, 2002, 04:03 PM
Winters have been different in recent years.

10 years ago, the first snow flurries would come in late september (sometimes), or usually by october. By middle to late november, your first "permanent" stuff would be on the ground.

The snow would finish melting completely in may. Your last big snow storms would come in March or April, though the weather was much milder between them than it had been in January and February.

Last couple years, snow didn't come until well into december. If this winter is like last winter, it won't go away until late, either.

El Nino, I guess. Summers been hotter too.

At any rate, I'd LOVE NOTHING MORE than a nice, warm, GREEN Christmas. People who generally "like" snow are people who think of "snow" as a light dusting, just enough to look pretty.

That's not snow. Having to scoop out your driveway when it's up to your KNEES is snow. Having snow banks on the sides of the road over six feet THAT'S snow!

Snowmobilers, of course, love that stuff, but I'd just as soon have a nice light dusting and leave it at that.

December 25, 2002, 05:37 PM
We got about a foot or so today sucked big time. Roads were horrible basicly Xmas was canceled for my mom today I was the only one who was able to make it. So she moved it to tommorow for everyone else.

December 25, 2002, 05:41 PM
I couldn't agree more SNOW SUCKS. I bet the people who think snow is nice never plowed for days straight with only a break to get some food. I would also bet these same peeps havn't seen a foot of that white crap on Mothers day.

December 25, 2002, 06:16 PM
3 or 4 inches here. Got a vehicle in the shop, but should be able to get out the door and leave the auto-exhaust stink of the city behind us within a few days.

Headed for a quieter spot. More snow there than here in town. Slower pace, no TV, electricity, running water. Snowshoes and sleds required to get into the cabin.

Great place to shoot...

December 25, 2002, 06:24 PM
Ohhhh Peetmoss....You've so much to learn (hehe) The only winters I like are the ones where I have to plow for several days straight.
NH winters aren't like they used to be. Of late, our winters seem to be warm, then rain, then cold..which creates ice, then warm....etc., etc.
Right now we are well on our way to 18 to 20", which in the "old days" would have been a fairly normal storm.

Edited to ask: Where is "CNY"? Central N.Y.?

December 25, 2002, 06:45 PM
Theres about 8 inches on the ground here in Michigan and more on the way!......:) I love snow. Whats wrong with shooting in the snow it takes longer for bbl's to heat up:)

December 25, 2002, 08:08 PM
no range time tomorrow like I hoped with the new Colt defender. expecting 12 inches of snow .... its heavy now.

Mike Irwin
December 25, 2002, 08:11 PM

No one plows the road.

That's what's wrong.

And I'm not walking half a mile carting all of my shooting crap.

December 25, 2002, 08:12 PM
We got about 3 inches Christmas eve here. First time I have seen a white Christmas in 8 years. Had to come to Korea to see it. Aint that a bummer.

Ala Dan
December 26, 2002, 04:06 AM
Now Mike, I know you must own a 4-wheel drive vechile?

Heck, I would not live that far north without one!

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

December 26, 2002, 03:08 PM
Heck Mike - take the Subaru back to the range.

I have 2 Imprezas - mine, & my wife's. The things go anywhere.


December 26, 2002, 04:27 PM
I understand this much:

1) You want to go shooting.
2) There is a few inches of snow on the ground.

Now, would you mind explaining one more time what the problem is?


Mike Irwin
December 26, 2002, 04:34 PM

Yes, a Subaru Outback.

Decent ground clearance, but not quite enough to effectively handle a foot or so of heavy snow.

So today I fixed the pocket doors in my parents house. They needed adjusting.

Not those wimpy modern lightweight pocket doors.

Each door is 4 feet wide by about 9 feet high, and made from SOLID American Chestnut. I figure each door weights in at close to 300 to 350 pounds.

I seem to have a door fixation this trip. On Monday and Tuesday I built new doors for their shed. :)

December 26, 2002, 05:09 PM

I'd not rest on the idea of a warm winter, were I you... Seven years ago, when we first moved in, without that midwinter thaw, we'd have had no place to put any new snow. It's only been the last couple of years, which were, I think, non- typical, that've been easy. And remember that climate is a long term average: about time for the wheel to spin 'round...

As for shooting, I did my practice on Christmas eve, remembering to exit the sliding glass door prior to firing. It can get ugly if you forget that part of the exercise, not to mention the flack from the boss, cost of replacement, and so forth....

This is, after all, NH, so hit the back yard and "fire at will"!

Pappy John
December 26, 2002, 05:23 PM
Good job, helpin' the folks, Mike. I hit the range at Harrisburg Hunters and Anglers Tuesday before the snow hit. The 100 yard benches are under roof, but my favorites, the 50 yarders, are exposed to weather, so it might be a while till my .22's get exercised. There's a pine covered ridge on the south side that pretty much keeps the sun off the bench area all winter and once the snow gets packed into ice on the walks, it seems to never go away, so I made a special point of getting some .22 work in before the storm. I guess I'll have to put in some more time at the pistol range now. More sun there. The snow will melt.

Mike Irwin
December 26, 2002, 06:40 PM

HHA, I know it well. I grew up just across the river in Marysville. Belonged to the Sportsmen's Club there, and did a lot of shooting at various friends' houses in Fishing Creek Valley.

Fishing Creek feeds into the Susquehanna right above the Rockville Bridge. Fishing Creek Valley goes from Cove Mountain in the North to the ridge (name escapes me right now) right at the western side of the Rockville Bridge, and goes from Marysville to Shermans Dale. Lots of great places to shoot, hunt, and otherwise recreate in Fishing Creek Valley when I was a kid.

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