200 gr .357 load?


January 13, 2003, 03:08 PM
I'm looking for a load for 200 gr FN lead bullets in 38 cases for use in a .357.


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Johnny Guest
January 13, 2003, 05:28 PM
welcome aboard--

Just for general interest - - -Which 200 gr. lead flat nose bullet will you use? Is there a site where I could see an image? Elder Son and I were discussing a heavy bullet .38 SPL +P level load just the other day. I am not ready to begin casting my own again, just for this specialty bullet, but would like to have some to mess with. I will note here: Our loads will be marked with red primers, and fired only in medium-to-heavy framed revolvers.

Gotta ask, too - - -Are you determined to load these in .38 SPL cases? My old Lyman manual lists only some pretty light loads with the 195 -- 200 gr bullet in .38 SPL. This is a rather long bullet, which doesn't leave much powder room in the .38 case.

You ask about, "200 gr .357 load," but then specify .38 cases. I'm always uneasy about loading super hot in .38 SPL, .44 SPL, or other short cases, for fear one of my loads will find its way into a too-light handgun. There was a time I loaded some really warm stuff in .38 but realized it might well disassemble an alloy snub revolver ahead of its time. ;)

If you're interested in some of these lighter loads, using faster burning powders, I'll be happy to look them up for you. Please remember, though - - -
You should always seek at least a second source of load data. Some ole dude (like me!) might inadvertently mis-type something . . .


January 13, 2003, 07:52 PM
Johnny Guest,
The 200 gr bullet I have in mind is the National Bullet Co. 200 gr FP. The crimping groove is set fairly well back, using .357 cases would give an OAL too long for .357 cylinders. The location of the crimp groove should give a bit of lee-way in powder space in a .38 case.
Some years ago I read an article in American Handgunner about .357 loads and they had a load in .38 case, 200gr fp bullet using 296 powder. Alas, I can't find the magazine :( .
The only .38 I have is a Taurus 85, I only shoot one load in it & that differs considerably from a 200 gr & I don't give or sell reloads to anyone so blowing up a .38 isn't much of a worry.

Gene (crawfordew)

January 14, 2003, 07:47 AM

I have only done this with some light to medium loads and heavy bullets (180 grainers), but what I did was use .38 special brass and kept the overall length the same as what was recommended for .357 mag cartridges. As long as you keep the recommended over all length same as suggested in the 357 loading the case volume behind the bullets will be the same whether the bullet is loaded in a 38 special case or a 357 case. A lot of the heavy bullets in this caliber have dual crimping grooves specifically for this purpose.

Start low and work up slowly!!


January 14, 2003, 01:10 PM
And make sure those heavily loaded 38 Special cases never find their way into a 38 Special revolver!

August 22, 2009, 09:38 PM
It seems I have acquired a similar bullet. I'm looking to find a source for a recipie. I would like to use SR4756 if possible.

Has anyone here found a good recipie. I will post a pic of the bullets I have later.

August 22, 2009, 09:48 PM
Here is some data from a 1997 IMR booklet:

REM. CASE; REM. 5 1/2 PR
REM. 200 GR. LEAD RN; .358" DIA.;
6.0" REVOLVER BBL.; 1.590" C.O.L.

SR 4756 6.2 grains 885 fps 35900 C.U.P

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