Whats your favorite factory 45 acp ammo?


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cplane
December 25, 2002, 09:31 PM
What do you like for your cheapo plinking ammo and what do you buy for your "Defense" loads?My favorite plinkers are UMC 230 gr. hardball. I usually have Federal Hi-Shock JHP for my Home defence and CCW loads.

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Erich
December 25, 2002, 09:49 PM
It's been a while since I've run .45, but I used to like the S&B the best for plinking, and either Fed 230 gr Hydrashocks or Cor-bon 230 gr +P JHPs for defense. Both were quite accurate, and seemed like they'd do the trick.

Wildalaska
December 25, 2002, 09:50 PM
I use HSM Montana Gold for practice (About $180 per thousand) and Win Ranger 230gr JHP+p for carrying.

denfoote
December 25, 2002, 09:53 PM
I use Wallyword Winchester White Box for plinking and Remington Golden Sabers for SD. :)

riverdog
December 25, 2002, 10:44 PM
I buy case quantitiies of either Fiocchi or Federal; it's cheaper by the case particularly over the internet where shipping is involved. I haven't tried S&B but it's got a good rep. I have shot Speer, it's okay.

For defense I use Black Hills 230 gr JHP (Gold Dot).

beemerb
December 25, 2002, 10:49 PM
Home rolled for practice.185 gr at 850.Carry load is 200 gr corbon.These corbon are the best round for night work I have seen.Very low flash so night vision is retained.
Bob

PJS Buck
December 25, 2002, 10:55 PM
FOR DEFENSE:

Pro Load "Gold Dot" 200gr. +P
Pro Load "Gold DOt" 230gr. +P
Winchester Ranger 230gr.

(I shoot all three dead on)

FOR PRACTICE:

WinClean 185 or 230gr.

(For me, it is accurate, clean and only costs about a $1.50 box more)

Pat

Shmackey
December 25, 2002, 10:59 PM
I like the Fiocchi. It has Italian words on it.

eap
December 26, 2002, 12:07 AM
target is winchester white box 185gr, very smooth, clean shooter!

defense is speer gold dot 185gr, non +P.

Jim V
December 26, 2002, 12:10 AM
Practice: whatever is inexpensive in 230 grains. (Well, I like the PMI 220 grain stuff too.)

Defense: 230 grain Remington Golden Sabers and for in the house work, 47 grain Thunderzaps.

The Thuderzaps were sold by Second Chance Body Armor and are no longer on the market, but they were factory.

Double Naught Spy
December 26, 2002, 12:23 AM
First, let me say that I don't reload and have no interest in reloading. I would rather not have to pay for brass that I am not going to use again. So, I like to shoot CCI Blazer 230 gr FMJ ball.

There are several benefits to Blazer. It is very inexpensive, only costing more than steel case and lacquer-covered Wolf and very frightening, quality challenged American Ammo out of Florida. The cost for me from www.natchezss.com including shipping comes out to just under $9 a box.

Blazer has functioned just fine in my 1911s.

In side by side tests using the same gun, I have found that Blazer is a very good training substitute for my carry ammo that is Federal Hydrashok 230 gr. Premium ammo. The felt recoil between the two types is very comparable. In low light, they produce comparable flash. So, I get the benefit of practicing and training with ammo that closely matches what I carry in these aspects.

By the way, I get Federal Hydrashok 230 gr. Premium in 50 round boxes for $20 a box (plus shipping or as in my case, plus sales tax). Note that the price is for 50 round boxes and not 20 round boxes that are often sold for as much as $15 a box.

Chipperman
December 26, 2002, 12:28 AM
For plinking I usually use S&B, unless I find something cheaper. I will not use CCI or Wolf.

For defense I use Triton .45 Super.
FAST!! :cool:

Schuey2002
December 26, 2002, 12:32 AM
For plinking/having fun, whatever is the cheapest at that moment. This is usually 'Wally-World' Winchester white box,UMC or Sellier & Bellot (bullet weights vary).

And for defensive purposes,usually Winchester Ranger 230 gr. JHP's,but I've used several other brands, including Federal,PMC,Fiocchi,and Cor-bon to name a few..

I think it's time to try Pro Load. ;)

J.D.Locke
December 26, 2002, 01:42 AM
Federal (American Eagle) 230 gr. for plinking.
Speer Gold Dot 200 +P for carry.

Sactown
December 26, 2002, 01:48 AM
185 and 230grain reloads from Miwall Corporation when the gun show comes to town.

Ala Dan
December 26, 2002, 05:12 AM
Federal's 230 grain Hydra Shok's serve me well!

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

Don45cal
December 26, 2002, 07:12 AM
When 45 ACP is in order:

For plinking I use reloads.

For IDPA Federal 230 Gr. FMJ.

For carry, it is Winchester Silver Tip HP, 230 Gr..

Robert Farrar
December 26, 2002, 07:19 AM
Practice: UMC 230 gr. ball.

Carrry: Federal 230 gr. Hydrashock.

Bob

FJC
December 26, 2002, 09:47 AM
Practice - S&B, Fed American Eagle, or most commonly handloads.

Self Defense - Federal 230gr Hydra-Shok. For friends with .45's that may be pickier about feeding, I usually recommend Winchester Silvertips, as they seem to feed well in any 1911.

Tamara
December 26, 2002, 11:21 AM
Practice/plinking: Whatever's cheap and handy. Usually that means Georgia Arms, CCI Lawman, or American Eagle.

Defense: I'm pretty undogmatic on this. It's usually Gold Dots or Golden Sabers (either std. velocity 230gr or +P 185/200). I have a soft spot in my heart for the 230gr HydraShok, though. It was the first "magic bullet". ;) :p

10-Ring
December 26, 2002, 11:54 AM
Defense, I use the Hydra Shoks. For plinking, I usually use my reloads or if I run across a good sale on Federals, PMC I'll use those.

brownie0486
December 26, 2002, 12:13 PM
Plinking/practice roll my own with 230 rnl at 850 per.

Street carry:
230 gr Hydrashoks or Corbon 200 gr.

My hand rolled duplicate the federal street load for recoil.

Brownie

Orion
December 26, 2002, 12:30 PM
American Eagle in 230gr.

and I prefer the Hydra-Shok in 230gr. most of my guns shoot both kinds of ammo pretty mush to POA so I like that combination. of training and defense round.

Will Fennell
December 26, 2002, 12:35 PM
Practice- S&B 230 ball....it hard to beat the performance and the cost!

Carry ammo- the old standby is 230 Hydra-Shok's, but lately I've been playing with Hornady 230 XTP +p's, and I've been very impressed. I may be making a change:cool:

gryphon
December 26, 2002, 12:39 PM
Blazer, S&B, PMC all seem to work well for me in my 1911's. My HK does not like the Blazer ammo. It shoots it reliably, but the accyracy suffers. The other 2 are spot on, though.

krept
December 26, 2002, 01:12 PM
230gr Speer Gold Dots...

230gr PMC for plinkin

tobeat1
December 26, 2002, 01:15 PM
230 gr Hydroshocks for carry. I roll my own plinking ammo. remington brass, cci large primers, 5.8 gr of unique topped with 230 gr FMJ.

Archer
December 26, 2002, 01:23 PM
I find that CCI Blazer functions well and is accurate enough in all of my handguns (with the exception of my PPK/S which does not seem to like the aluminum cases.)

My favorite factory .45 load for practice is the XM1911 230 Grain full-load match FMJ. It is a milspec version of American Eagle with tighter specifications and sealant. I also liked the Pro Load 230 grain FMJ load, which appears to have been discontinued.

I carry the 230 grain Hydrashok in 5" pistols and Speer Gold Dot 200+P in shorter pistols such as the USP Compact. Alternately I like the 200+P Pro Load which is similar to the Gold Dot load, featuring the same projectile in a better quality case.

I have noted a greater tendency for bullet setback to occur with repeated chamberings with the Gold Dot loads than with Federal loads, probably due to the extra roll crimp used by Federal.

Captain Bligh
December 26, 2002, 01:31 PM
Range: Winchester White Box JHP 230 gr.
Carry: Winchester White Box JHP 230 gr.

RJ

KMKeller
December 26, 2002, 01:56 PM
I use S&B and CCI Blazer for practice,
Winchester Brass jacketed SWCs for serious shooting
and Winchester Silver Tips for carry.

ruger357
December 26, 2002, 02:46 PM
I practice with S&B.

happy g
December 26, 2002, 04:56 PM
Practice: Speer Lawman 230 FMJ.
Right now I'm carring the new Tarus 185 gr. I'm a sucker for marketing!

triggertime
December 26, 2002, 05:08 PM
Practice: Sellier & Bellot 230gr. FMJ

Carry: Winchester Ranger T 230gr. or Corbon Pow'Rball 165gr.

Diesle
December 26, 2002, 05:16 PM
I dont know tht its my fav. but I use PMC for Target. Its the one thats most available as its stocked at the nearest gun shop and at local range. And, its cheap, but not too cheap.....

Diesle

12-34hom
December 26, 2002, 06:27 PM
Practice = Blaser 230 grain FMJ.

Duty = Triton 450smc 165 grain JHP.

12-34hom.

boondocker
December 26, 2002, 08:31 PM
Lets see Practice H@G 68's Wheel Weights Made at the boondocker ammo factory.

:D

Carry Hydro Shocks


Boon

HSMITH
December 26, 2002, 08:46 PM
The most accurate load out of my 45 is is also utterly reliable, Federal Premium 230 grain Hydrashoks, for practice whatever I can get cheaply is fine.

Niekamp
December 26, 2002, 08:58 PM
Generally use Federal American Eagle 230 gr. ball for practice, or whatever is on sale.

Remington 230 gr. Golden sabers for defense.

Man I need to start reloading...ammo bill is too high these days. :)

Bainx
December 26, 2002, 10:07 PM
Stuff loaded by Daniel T. of course! Right in the hills of East Tennessee.

Gewehr98
December 26, 2002, 11:06 PM
Is Winchester Black Talon (yes, THAT Black Talon) that I bought a couple cases of before they pulled it off the market. That's the nightstand/carry ammo. Otherwise, they're 200gr Hensley & Gibbs #68 semiwadcutters, cast from wheelweights and 50/50 bar solder at the Gewehr98 foundry. :D

Backwoods
December 27, 2002, 12:14 AM
For Practice, I load a 230 gr RN, used to be cast lead, nowadays it's copper plated comercial slugs. Loaded to match GI hardball.
For Carry, it's Federal 230 gr. HydraShoks.

Don in Ohio

foghornl
December 27, 2002, 11:29 AM
Range Round is Sellier & Bellot 230 Gr ball
'Serious Socializing' load is Rem 230 Gr Golden Sabre.

3 gun
December 27, 2002, 02:30 PM
Blazer 230gr FMJ for practice ( cheap and it works), CCI Gold Dot 200gr +P for HD.

P12
December 27, 2002, 02:56 PM
CCI Blazer for practice and IDPA.

Tried S&B and didn't seems as hot. Gun wouldn't function as well. Noticable difference in sound and recoil.

For reference I shoot a Para Ord. P12-45.

Double Naught Spy

www.natchezss.com

Thanks for the reference. They have really great prices on 380 also.

dev_null
December 27, 2002, 03:01 PM
Target practice: whatever's inexpensive from PMC, Blazer, or Cabela's.

Social Work: 230 grains of Hydra-Shok Therapy, subcutaneous, PRN.

(OK, that's flippant, but it's what I carry.)

Getting ready to give the new all-copper round from Taurus a try.

-0-

s&w 24
December 27, 2002, 03:06 PM
at times I have used mag-safe,golden saber,and hydra shok ammo for carry but right now I don't have a favorite because I'm still looking for a good short bbl. 45 load. As for practice ammo I reload usualy 200 gr rn over what ever usable pistol powder is on sale.

454
December 27, 2002, 03:45 PM
Blazer because it is the cheapest for fun shooting.

HS/LD
December 27, 2002, 04:21 PM
Serious: 230grain Rem Golden Sabre

Fun: the cheapest I can find


HS/LD

JerryN
December 27, 2002, 05:56 PM
UMC, white box and blazer for plinking.

Another vote for Black Talon for serious bidniz. Bought a pile off a local gun shop that bought a pile before they pulled the good stuff. They still have some, I think...

Bacchus
December 27, 2002, 06:01 PM
I really like the 230 gr Magtech in FMJ. It goes for around 10/box around here.

JPM70535
December 27, 2002, 07:49 PM
I roll my own for practice, 200 SWC with 5.5 gr.231, and for carry the Winchester Silvertip 185 gr. ( especially good for Werewolves)

357Man
December 27, 2002, 09:35 PM
I handload, so most of my practice rounds are mine (230 gr. RN lead, 5.5 grains WW231), but when I shoot factory ammo it is:
plinking and fun shooting - either Speer or Winchester 230 ball;
serious biz - Remington 230 gr. Golden Sabres.

Penman
December 27, 2002, 10:23 PM
Federal 230 grain Hydra Shoks

Kevinch
December 28, 2002, 12:10 AM
For carry, Speer 185g Gold Dot (very accurate & reliable in my Ultra CDP), Fed 230g HS in my 5" 1911 (carried very infrequently).

For practice (usually my 5" 1911, the Ultra CDP infrequently), any 'ol 230g hardball will work.

Shaughn Leayme
December 28, 2002, 05:09 AM
Load my own for practice/plinking 200 gr FMJ at +P velocities (some loads developed were more like +P+ but that's another story)

General use load is Proload 200 +P GDHP or similiar.

cratz2
December 28, 2002, 08:28 PM
Cheapo is Winchester white box or S&B ball. I've also always had good experience with Blazer in 45 ACP.

My preference for defensive stuff is standard pressure 230 Gr or 200 Gr Gold Dots or 230 Gr Winchester Rangers but I wouldn't feel under-armed with Hydrashok.

rick458
December 28, 2002, 08:29 PM
with Factory I like UMC yeller box, or Winchester White box in 230 ball, carry is 230 Fed Hydrashoks
when I roll my own it is a H&G 68 200 gr lswc with 5.2 - 5.7 gr W 231 and CCI primers in Win Cases:)

Politically Incorrect
December 28, 2002, 10:59 PM
Whatever is on sale. I haven't noticed my SA 1911 not liking what I put into it.

I have a few boxes of Speer Lawman and yellow UMC.

Kevlarman
December 29, 2002, 12:32 AM
I used CCI Blazer, S&B, and Winchester white box. S&B is my favorite.

Pointman
December 29, 2002, 12:57 AM
Fiocchi, S&B & Fed Hydrashoks. Compared to the Fiocchi and S&B the USA and similar white box is poochy...

mec
December 29, 2002, 12:56 PM
corbon jhp
http://www.milesfortis.com/mcump/mc14.htm





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Mark IV Series 80
December 29, 2002, 04:14 PM
Practice: Speer Lawman, Federal American Eagle, Fiocchi, and Winchester White Box.

Defense: Federal 230 grain Hydra-Shoks.

WESHOOT2
December 30, 2002, 02:37 AM
You gotta ask?

sm
December 30, 2002, 03:09 AM
Good to see you here !

Indoors- 185 gr Win STHP
Social - 230 gr SXT

Winchester white box in JHP for some things, FMJ plinking--if gunsmith forgot to load plinking rds

Dr. J
December 30, 2002, 03:13 AM
Practice: S&B 230 fmj

Carry: 230 Hydra Shok

dave
December 30, 2002, 06:56 AM
For plinking I use either Federal AE 230 gr or Rem UMC 230 gr.


For a long time I carried Speer 200 +P Gold Dot. Lately I 've been carrying Cor Bon 230 +P. I would like to try their new Power Ball round as soon as I can find it.

WESHOOT2
December 30, 2002, 11:42 AM
SERIOUS CRITERIA

Social ammunition requirements (IMNSHO): it must be reliable, in that it feeds, fires, and ejects WITHOUT EXCEPTION; it must launch the projectile at similar velocities for each shot; it must not blind the operator; it must make a hole.
Hole-making is a completely different subject..................

And accuracy, too....................

Bainx
December 30, 2002, 11:47 AM
Practice: Speer Gold Dot 45 acp fmj
Carry: Speer Gold Dot 45 acp hp

Not yet into reloading.

Nanook
December 30, 2002, 02:08 PM
My reloads usually for practice/plinking. Sometimes S&B or Federal American Eagle.

185 grain JHP for defense, not too concerned with brand. And some of them are reloads, a good fast mover. Not too worried about using reloads as defense. In this state any use of a weapon will result in court time, I don't believe the reloads will be an issue.

NEon
December 30, 2002, 04:04 PM
Triton

larryw
December 30, 2002, 07:23 PM
Practice is S&B for the brass (roll my own). Hydra-Shoks elsewhere

LWCmdr45
December 30, 2002, 07:36 PM
For self-defense, 230gr. Hydra-Shoks. I used to use Speer 200gr. "flying ahstrays," Winchester Silvertips and Federal 185gr. JHP's for different pieces; now, I feed them all the same Hydra-Shok.

For practice, either 230gr. FMJ or 200gr. LdSWC reloads. When I qualify for my CHL Instructor's certficate, the DPS limits ammo choices to specific brands of factory hardball, so I use Winchester white box.

Steve

Jeff OTMG
December 31, 2002, 01:13 AM
I am a believer in the light and fast stuff by RBCD.
45 ACP 90 gr. TFSP 2036 fps / 828 flbs
45 ACP 115 gr. TFSP 1650 fps / 700 flbs
Which also means that I like the 90 gr version. MUCH cheaper than the MagSafe I use to use, more reliable with its' round nose profile, and loaded to standard pressure rather than +P+.
www.rbcd.net

tbeb
December 31, 2002, 01:14 AM
For plinking I reload my own, and that load is a 230 gr. RNL bullet and 4.9 grs. of Winchester 231 powder. For self defense I use Federal Hydra-Shok 230 gr. JHP.

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