Anyone have Savage muzzleloader?


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Bruz
January 15, 2003, 07:45 AM
Thought I was going to get a TC Encore, but then heard about the Savage...any reports?

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sixgun_symphony
January 16, 2003, 05:11 AM
It's like "whats the point?"

If you want a modern rifle, get a .30-06 or 7mm Mag cartridge rifle.

If you want a muzzle-loader, then get a traditional muzzle-loader.

Bruz
January 16, 2003, 05:48 AM
It's like "whats the point?" If you want a modern rifle, get a .30-06 or 7mm Mag cartridge rifle.

The "point" is that the Gov does not let me hunt with a .30-06 or a 7mm during muzzle loading season. So since I want to extend my hunting season, and have to use a muzzle loader to do so, I am trying to find the best one to do the job. I have also bought a compound bow for the same reason, even though I am sure you feel I should use my recurve. Use metal tips on the arrows instead of rock also. Sorry, but we all can't be The Dark Lord of the Soot.

tranders
January 16, 2003, 05:02 PM
My Dad bought one this year and loves it. I'm not sure what smokeless powder he is using but I know he uses Hornady sabots. He went from an Encore to the Savage just because of the ease of cleaning or lack there of. The one thing that he doesn't like is the synthetic ramrod. I have heard of problems with ignition due to sabots not sealing the powder. He hasn't experienced any problems at all. We here in Indiana like our inlines due to the fact we can't hunt deer with high powered rifles.

1911
January 16, 2003, 05:49 PM
A couple of points need to be made.

The savage ml has one of the best set ups on it for hunting.The 209 fits right down into the bolt so that there is no need for cap protectors,disk's or extraction tool's.

To seal the barrel and to take full advatage of the smokless propellent you need to buy special high pressure sabots or else accuracy will suffer.

The ups out way the down's but the gun suffers from a poorly made stock and a crappy trigger.After replacing the trigger and cutting down the stock the gun shoots decent groups but nothing as spectacular as the remington or knight.

I didnt get to hunt with mine this year but last year I took down 7 nice deer and a couple of cyote's and not one of them was able to complain.


I am sure this rifle is not for everyone but for someone that wants a muzzloader that is maintence free and more like a rifle this is the one for you.

sixgun_symphony
January 16, 2003, 10:04 PM
The "point" is that the Gov does not let me hunt with a .30-06 or a 7mm during muzzle loading season. So since I want to extend my hunting season, and have to use a muzzle loader to do so, I am trying to find the best one to do the job. I have also bought a compound bow for the same reason, even though I am sure you feel I should use my recurve. Use metal tips on the arrows instead of rock also. Sorry, but we all can't be The Dark Lord of the Soot.


Finally an honest responce from an inline shooter.

The Muzzle-loader hunting seasons were originally created for people using traditional ML firearms because they do not have the range of modern cartridge arms with smokeless powder.
The modern inlines may fit inside the letter of the law, but they violate the spirit of the law.

I look forward to doing away with the ML season so that these modern inlines will go away. We can create a "primitive weapon" season that will bring the law back to the original intent.

Bruz
January 17, 2003, 02:55 AM
We here in Indiana like our inlines due to the fact we can't hunt deer with high powered rifles.

And I thought ********** had tough huntin laws!


...a crappy trigger.After replacing the trigger...

May I ask where you bought the trigger?


...they violate the spirit of the law.

I agree that the modern muzzleloaders bastardize the "spirit" of muzzleloading, but when I'm hunting for food I'm going to use the best that the law allows. Maybe once I "mature" I'll see it more your way.

sixgun_symphony
January 17, 2003, 03:08 AM
I agree that the modern muzzleloaders bastardize the "spirit" of muzzleloading, but when I'm hunting for food I'm going to use the best that the law allows. Maybe once I "mature" I'll see it more your way.

That part about inlines being "the best" is just not so.

Traditional muzzle-loading rifles have done the job for centuries. It does take some practice at the range to master the weapon, which is more than many hunters wish to do, but get the job done it will.

Inlines are made for hunters who want a rifle that looks like their modern cartridge rifle. It's because the traditional ML rifles are unfamiliar to them and they don't know what they're capable of in the hands of a competent shooter.

1911
January 17, 2003, 04:08 PM
Brownells sells a aftermarket rigger for the savage.

tranders
January 17, 2003, 05:03 PM
I also prefer the look and feel of a traditional side lock smoke pole. I enjoy shooting my muzzleloaders where I think a lot of the people going to the inlines really don't like muzzleloading, they just want to extend the hunting season. Just my .02 cents.

1911
January 18, 2003, 07:59 PM
I thought that this post was about savage muzzloaders and not the ethics of inlines?

Guyon
January 22, 2003, 03:49 PM
Well, I ventured over here for the first time, and lo' and behold, it's just like the Blackpowder board over at TFL.... sour grapes from the "traditionalists" and threads forced into the inline/sidelock debate. :banghead: Where's Jimmy Mac? I figured he'd have chimed in by now.

BTW: I use my inline to extend the hunting season and feel no remorse whatsoever. Why should the traditionalists get the woods all to themselves during the beginning of the rut here in TN?

I may experiment with a sidelock next season just because I like to shoot and to try new guns. But my priority is getting to hunt, and I'll use whatever is within the limits of the law. What I shoot is my business. I won't make fun of your gun if you won't make fun of mine.

Finally, to answer the question: My uncle owns the smokeless Savage and has nothing but good things to say. Easy to use, extremely accurate, and of course, easy to clean. I might get one someday; I just want to make sure the tolerances are sound and that these suckers aren't prone to Kabooms.

tranders
January 22, 2003, 09:06 PM
My Dad shoots 47 grains of Hodgeton 4227 powder with MMP sabots and Hornady projectiles. He has had no problems with ignition with this load. Good Luck!!

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