Attention washington non-citizens!!


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esteli
December 9, 2008, 05:30 PM
There was a thread up a while back that is now locked concerning the Alien Firearms License fiasco that's 'temporarily' preventing all resident aliens in Washington State from legally possessing firearms. We are not stuck waiting until the next legislative session to see some movement on this because I just found out that the SAF and NRA are SUING Washington State, The Director of the Department of Licensing, and the Issaquah Chief of Police over the issue.

See the following:
Article in the Seattle PI
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/386392_guns05.html
The SAF Press Release
http://saf.org/viewpr-new.asp?id=281
The Lawsuit
http://saf.org/legal.action/wa.alien.resident.lawsuit/wa.alien.resident.complaint.pdf


Some hope for us! Let's keep our eyes on how this progresses!

Steli

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MD_Willington
December 9, 2008, 07:01 PM
Yep, well aware of it...

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=405574

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=373714

Nothing happening so far, I've checked a few times and have chatted with one on the plaintiffs.

Cyborg
December 9, 2008, 09:56 PM
Excuse me, but why should anyone who is not a citizen have the 2nd amendment RKBA? Non citizens aren't allowed to vote, they aren't allowed to hold public office and have other restrictions that do not apply to citizens - native born or naturalized. Where/how does the 2nd amendment apply/extend to non citizens? I know of no country on the earth who extends all rights of citizens to non-citizens.

Or am I misunderstanding your post?

Cyborg

user3214
December 9, 2008, 11:42 PM
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Do I misunderstand the 2nd amendment?

expvideo
December 10, 2008, 12:11 AM
Excuse me, but why should anyone who is not a citizen have the 2nd amendment RKBA
Because unlike the right to vote, the 2nd amendment is a right that everyone is born with. The bill of rights does not give rights, but recognizes pre-existing rights. Rights aren't just for citizens. A good example of this is the freedom of speech, which applies to everyone, not just citizens.

NFADLR
December 10, 2008, 12:13 AM
Those born in Washington DC are the only true United States citizens in the US you would think they would not have a problem voting and buying guns.

If you read the 14th Amendment you will understand this statement in time.

Excuse me, but why should anyone who is not a citizen have the 2nd amendment RKBA? Non citizens aren't allowed to vote, they aren't allowed to hold public office and have other restrictions that do not apply to citizens - native born or naturalized. Where/how does the 2nd amendment apply/extend to non citizens? I know of no country on the earth who extends all rights of citizens to non-citizens.

Or am I misunderstanding your post?

Cyborg

ericyp
December 10, 2008, 01:29 AM
Excuse me, but why should anyone who is not a citizen have the 2nd amendment RKBA? Non citizens aren't allowed to vote, they aren't allowed to hold public office and have other restrictions that do not apply to citizens - native born or naturalized. Where/how does the 2nd amendment apply/extend to non citizens? I know of no country on the earth who extends all rights of citizens to non-citizens.


Everything in the bill of rights extends to all people in the U.S. unless they've done something deserving to have them taken away. You must not think much of the second amendment to say something like this. It's the least important amendment to you, right? How do you feel about with-holding the right to free speech, or to a speedy trial from certain people?

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