FBI knocked on my door


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eap
December 25, 2002, 10:35 PM
if i don't recognize the person at my door i don't answer. as i'm looking at this guy through the peephole i'm thinking, "sure looks like a cop".:rolleyes:

i sit back down and a few minutes later i open the door to see what he slid in the door, it's his business card. it has my name on the back and says he needs to speak to me about a neighbor.:eek:

i'm a little freaked cause i've never seen or talked to anybody higher up than a police officer. i'm thinking all kind of crazy stuff, maybe i'm under suspicion of something and he's just using a neighbor as an excuse?

so i call the FBI office in dallas to verify this guy is legit, he is. so i return his call and conducted the business over the phone. turns out my neighbor applied for a "government job", that's all he would say. asks me a few questions like, "do i know him?" and "have you noticed anything strange like noise or comotion from his apartment?" "have the police every been called to his place?". i don't know the guy, just seen him a few times. so the conversation was short. interesting though.

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4v50 Gary
December 25, 2002, 10:39 PM
Background investigation! Ahh, I remember that. You go and ask the neighbors who live upstairs, downstairs, on each side, front & back, across the street, etc. - at each and every neighborhood where the guy has lived. Unlike friends or coworkers who "cover" and put you through the round robin, neighbors less likely to do so. Just answer honestly and in doing so, you're serving in the public interest. :)

BTW, do you mind coming down to HQ for the interview and leaving your atty outside? ;)

PATH
December 25, 2002, 10:41 PM
Pretty standard stuff as it goes. It is nice to know that they are checking to see if someone might be a nut! Funny,they never seem to knock on my door. Hmmmmm?

Nosferatu
December 25, 2002, 10:41 PM
Pretty standard when somebody applying or moving into a position that requires a security clearance.

When my dad went for his security clearance, the feds interviewd my Mom, myself, sisters and all the neighbors.

Blackhawk
December 25, 2002, 11:12 PM
When I had my "National Agency Check" as they called it for my secret stuff clearance, agents interviewed practically everybody who had ever heard of me much less knew me.

What a bunch of liars they were!

I got my clearance...! :D

45R
December 25, 2002, 11:15 PM
I had this incredible looking blonde knock on my door. Turns out that she was an insurance investigator wanting information on weather or not my neighbor had been outside mowing the lawn or jumping around playing B-ball. Gave her my information and went on with my day. Not all investigators are bad. :D

Schlickenmeyer
December 25, 2002, 11:32 PM
Hell, my business partner had the FBI pestering him cause he had the same name as someone in kathleen solia's phone book.
Oh, the look on his face when the wife called and said the feds were just at the door, and wouldn't explain why...

4v50 Gary
December 25, 2002, 11:34 PM
So Blackhawk, are you building atomic bombs, developing or storing weapons of mass destruction, or working on some super secret encryption for us? :D

spacemanspiff
December 25, 2002, 11:52 PM
man, i never get any 'good' visits.....occasionally some bible freak will stop by asking to speak about jesus but soon as they find out i'm a JW they turn tail...
so heres a tip, if a bible thumper knocks on your door and it ISNT a JW, tell them you're one and they'll go away. mormons especially dont like talking to us. :D

(no offense intended to any mormons here).

Phil Ca
December 26, 2002, 12:05 AM
About 27 years ago before I moved to the country my neighbor who worked for the FDA was applying for a higher ranking job. He told me that an investigator would be coming by in the next two weeks to ask questions about him.

Sure enough one Friday I was off and taking care of some landscaping in the front of the house. A plain brown wrapper car came by,paused at the stop sign and drove slowly past me and parked across the street two doors down.

When the agent came across the street to talk to me I asked right away,"What do you need to know about "Joe"? He asked how I knew what he wanted. I told him I also worked for the government and could spot a spook a mile away. I told him what tipped me off and he looked very thoughtful afterwards. Some of those people never learn.

:D :cool:

Blackhawk
December 26, 2002, 01:37 AM
So Blackhawk, are you building atomic bombs, developing or storing weapons of mass destruction, or working on some super secret encryption for us? My job is so secret I'm not allowed to know what it is or what I'm doing. IOW, I haven't got a clue about anything, not even an inkling!

Well, not exactly. I know there are 16 inklings in a clue, but I can't tell you how I know that. :D

45R
December 26, 2002, 01:40 AM
Let me guess you work at a fruit farm.

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Blackhawk
December 26, 2002, 02:04 AM
Nice mouth breather. I guess they were all out of noses and down to tiny mouse ears!

How would I know where I work...? :D

Mike Irwin
December 26, 2002, 02:46 AM
I can't even begin to tell you how many visits I've had from FBI, State Department, Air Force, Army, Navy, etc. since September 11, 2001.

Literally has to be running close to 30, now.

I need friends who don't work for the gummit.

45R
December 26, 2002, 02:56 AM
Originally posted by Blackhawk


How would I know where I work...? :D

The easy acess to pineapples and poms gave it away. :)

dinosaur
December 26, 2002, 04:51 AM
When I was being investigated for the NYPD, 2 guys interviewed my neighbor`s wife. At the time he was an electrician putting up the TV towers on the WTC. She thought something happened to him. Scared the hell out of her. I heard all about it when I got home from work.:D

telewinz
December 26, 2002, 06:17 AM
When I had my first background/clearance investigation they even went and talked to my barber. For months later I would be stopped by old friends who told me about "the man who pulled out a badge" and asked about me. I passed the background investigation then and I still do but it still suprises me how serious and complete these investigations are!:eek:

buttrap
December 26, 2002, 06:33 AM
Hmmm usually they just take your prints and go from there unless a red flag comes up. But what do I know I only work for the USDA, all USDA staff out of the USA are CIA just ask Saddam or the KBG...

JHP147
December 26, 2002, 08:47 AM
Had about the same thing a few months back. The guy that came flashed OFficial government looking creds, think they had FBI on them, but they weren't exactly like FBI creds. He said he was a retired FBI agent, but the government had hired back a lot of retirees to do these type of background investigations because current events had the regular agents pretty tied up. Said he was tired of playing golf, anyway, and this was a nice supplement to his retirement. I didn't really know the guy down the street except by name and waving at each other, and told the investigaor that. He said that was fine, they were mainly just checking to make sure the guy being checked on isn't known as the neighborhood weirdo or crank...no loud war whoops from the garage in middle of the night or stalking the alleys naked, covered in oatmeal and clothespins on his nipples, that type of stuff. Turns out the ex-fed knew some of the feds and ex-feds I knew, and we talked about what they were up to. Makes sense to me to hire experienced guys like that for cheaper and keep the real feds out looking for hi-jihad-hackers or whatever.

M1911
December 26, 2002, 10:48 AM
He said he was a retired FBI agent, but the government had hired back a lot of retirees to do these type of background investigations because current events had the regular agents pretty tied up.You know, I never would have expected that our government would have that much common sense. I'm impressed.

KMKeller
December 26, 2002, 10:58 AM
You know, I never would have expected that our government would have that much common sense. I'm impressed.

Blind panic can at times lead to rational thought...

2nd Amendment
December 26, 2002, 11:05 AM
Yeah, and sometimes they just get something right in their endless flailing around. Between that and common sense I'd choose the former as most likely.

Southla1
December 26, 2002, 12:41 PM
Standard stuff for security clearances. Before I became a marksmanship instructor in the Air Force back in 1963 I needed a Top Secret Clearance for the job I was doing. They had an agent ask a few people questions. Teachers, neighbors, etc. Mostly if they knew me, if I was a commie etc.

If approached by an agent and he fesses up that that is why he is asking I will help in anyway I can.

If it's someone like an insurance investigator like "45R" had call they will be shown the door very quickly and very rudely! (maybe a lil slower, and nicer if they are an "incredible looking blonde" :D), but still shown the limits of my property!



"but the government had hired back a lot of retirees"

It is not just the government...................I retired from Texaco in 1999. Two months ago I got a call from ChevronTexaco on a Thrusday at 11:30 AM asking me if I could catch a flight at 6 AM the next morning for an offshore platform! I did manage to talk them into an extra day to get ready! :D After 5 minutes out there it was as if I had never left.

Kurt S.
December 26, 2002, 01:04 PM
I had one good looking lady investigator who I believe was with the DOD interview me while I was in graduate school. She was doing a background for a former fellow grad student who was apply for a job disposing of out-of-date nerve gas on some desert island in the Pacific. She asked a few questions mostly about loyalty to the US and such, then asked me if I had any comments. I remembered this boy as being dumb as box of rocks and told her so. She said in a friendly but businesslike manner that it wasn't her job to investigate that.

I had a "Confidential" clearance in the Navy but I was never able to find out if they even questioned anybody about me- everybody I asked said nobody had talked them or anything.

Southla, I'm thinking ChevTex must have made it worth your while to go back to those "24 on and on" tours.....

Gunner45
December 26, 2002, 01:08 PM
Hey Spaceman

I loved talking to you guys. :D

Gunner45

spacemanspiff
December 26, 2002, 01:15 PM
i enjoy talking to mormons as well gunner. :D
i think its the younger ones who are still new in their ministry that are uneasy talking to JW's. sometimes its a lack of experience, and sometimes its that their faith is still being forged.

but if you really want to get rid of any bible thumper, answer the door buck nekkid. (with a belt and tactical thigh holster of course! :D ) for some reason that really dampens our soul-saving mood. :o

Southla1
December 26, 2002, 01:33 PM
"Southla, I'm thinking ChevTex must have made it worth your while to go back to those "24 on and on" tours....."


Well Kurt, let's say they made it "interesting" :D

Matthew Courtney
December 26, 2002, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by 45R
I had this incredible looking blonde knock on my door. Turns out that she was an insurance investigator wanting information on weather or not my neighbor had been outside mowing the lawn or jumping around playing B-ball. Gave her my information and went on with my day. Not all investigators are bad. :D

Information was all you gave her?

Sven
December 29, 2002, 01:17 PM
In August of this year, an FBI special agent stopped by and left his business card, saying he wanted to talk to my landlord. Of course, I thought he was coming to talk to me about my newfound hobby. The TFL crew talked me down (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=127967&highlight=FBI) and sure enough, in the end, it turned out that I wasn't the subject of inquiry.

The FBI had a few questions to ask a non-citizen Stanford student (from India) who had held some far left-leaning (anti-US policy) demonstrations and rallys... he was the guy they are looking for, apparently.

Moral of the story: not a good time to be an activist non-citizen with anti-US policy sentiments.

-

My grandparents were interviewed by the FBI when a neighbor was nominated to a be a Federal judge... another common situation, as already mentioned above.

chaim
December 29, 2002, 01:33 PM
Around here (I live in the DC area) having the FBI come to you to talk to you about a neighbor is quite common. People are always getting new clearances, getting a higher clearance or otherwise being checked on (maybe renewal?). I can see if you live in another part of the country where this isn't so common how you could get nervous though (especially with some recent goings on).

If they ask you for your whereabouts for the past x amount of time, then you can worry ;) . Seriously, remember it happened to me and many other gun owners during the DC "sniper" thing:mad: .

HABU
December 29, 2002, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by eap
if i don't recognize the person at my door i don't answer

Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.:D One cannot be too careful these days.

TallPine
December 29, 2002, 02:13 PM
Can't imagine anyone around here getting a govmint clearance ...

FBI comes around, well - they're probably looking for the Unabomber or Freeman. :eek:

Mike Irwin
December 29, 2002, 03:56 PM
"He said he was a retired FBI agent, but the government had hired back a lot of retirees to do these type of background investigations because current events had the regular agents pretty tied up."

I can verify that, too.

Two retired investigators, one FBI, one State Dept., whom I know have all of the work that they can handle. The gov is desperate for trained investigators to handle the backlog.

Blackhawk
December 29, 2002, 03:59 PM
Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.Paranoia is not natural.

Paranoia is an acquired trait.

Jorah
December 29, 2002, 04:41 PM
so heres a tip, if a bible thumper knocks on your door and it ISNT a JW, tell them you're one and they'll go away.


I was splitting firewood in the snow, barechested, in January, once, and a BT drove up. Still holding the axe, I mentioned that I was a witch, and he split.

Still can't figure out why he didn't stay to chat...

-J.


PS: To stay slightly on-topic, my step brother had Top Secret clearance... that still gives me the willies.
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Stratford Holdings
December 29, 2002, 06:39 PM
Usually when I'm getting clearance, I let the people know who I put down on my hit list. This way they aren't totally spooked. I had my security clearance done about a year ago and some peopel still tell me about it.

The guy that came and spoke with me was also a "retired" FBI guy but his badge did not have FBI on it. It did say something about Department of Defense.

4v50 Gary
December 29, 2002, 07:15 PM
It's not unusual for the Fed Govt. to pull retired employees out of retirement to conduct background investigations. I happen to know one fellow who does it and it keeps him busy and happy.

voilsb
December 29, 2002, 07:37 PM
this thread's reminded me that I need to go check on my security clearance to see if it's gone through yet or not.

I had a hang-up with it before, because my name had initially been transcribed wrong as "Brain" instead of "Brian" on the first page. Funny, how that kind of thing works.

Bog
December 29, 2002, 09:38 PM
So Blackhawk, are you building atomic bombs, developing or storing weapons of mass destruction, or working on some super secret encryption for us?

*lights cig*

So what's wrong with encryption?

Bog

(PGP Key available on request :D )

quantico
December 29, 2002, 09:49 PM
My neighbors have been thru the drill about me, they seemed more interested in me the first time I needed a clearance ,but they still come by every few years and say hi to the neighbors.... as long as you are not the neighborhood wack job.... they seem satisfied that you live indoors and seem fine.

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