Star Progressive Reloader Reloading Press


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Tony Z
January 18, 2003, 03:23 PM
Can anyone give me some information on the Star Universal Progressive Reloader set up for .44 Magnum or .44 Special. I have heard that these are great reloaders, but I have never seen one. Also if you know about what its worth I would appreciate it.:D


Thanks,

Tony

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Barney
January 18, 2003, 05:40 PM
Tony Z: I have owned one for about 30 Years. They made a standard in .38 or .45. They made a Universal which I have. You can change the head which holds the dies out in about 3 minutes. I have a .44 head, a .38 head, and a .45 acp head. You must also change out the powder slides which are made of hard brass. The slide sits in a cast aluminum housing which is sized for the various slides depending on caliber and powder. You must also change out the primer feed tube and the primer seater depending on the caliber. They are tool room precision. They are expensive or they where. I don't know if you can get them anymore unless you find a used one. They will last for at least 2 million rounds they claim untill they need work. You used to be able to get a Hulme Case feeder for them. They are definitely worth it if you can find one. They also made an indexer which I don't think you need. A Hulme Bullet feeder was also made but I never got that either. I heard they had a little trouble with the bullet feeder. I have the case feeder on mine and it works fine. They throw very accurate and consistent powder charges. You can screw things up on them but if you pay attention it is easy to do it right. There is a Star reloaders forum some where but I don't have it. Try google. Star used to be in San Diego. They were sold. Pause please...gotta eat supper, will get back.

Barney
January 18, 2003, 07:23 PM
I am back. I man by the Name of Bill Cunningham from Pioneer, California bought the Tooling and stuff for the Star Press. The last Phone Number I had for him was (209) 295-5185 for his home and (209) 295- 5000 for his shop. That was a couple of years ago. I don't know if he still is in to the press or not. Magma Engineering in Queen Creek, Arizona handles the Star Luber and resizer. They are very nice. There number was (480) 987-3301. Hope this all helps. any other questions...holler.

Quantrill
January 19, 2003, 10:25 AM
Tony,
I have had a Star Reloader for about 30 years also and think that it is the standard to which all other progressive reloaders must be compared. One of the moderators for this list is Paul (Fitz) Jones who probably knows more about Stars than anybody on the planet, having sold,operated and designed improvements for Stars for many years. He even has a web page and list just for Star owners and users. I would address any questions about Stars to him. Quantrill

Tony Z
January 19, 2003, 10:51 AM
Thanks,

Barney and Quantrill

I might have an oppertunity to buy a like new Star Universal press. But the owner is not sure what it is worth and nether do I. I could not find out much about the Star Press on the internet.
I sure did like the press but would want to be able to buy parts , dies and the such.

Tony

Paul "Fitz" Jones
January 20, 2003, 12:49 AM
I am a one of the moderators of this reloading section. I am the retired owner of the San Diego Star Company authorized Reloader Reconditioning Center in the 1970s I reconditioned machines to like new with Star supplied paint, parts and even Star Decals if needed.

I retired when severely injured in 1979 placing new in the box inventory in storage til last spring selling most of it off on the shooting lists and I formed the Star Reloaders Discussion and Support group last September.

There are at least a thousand Star reloaders still being used and since elderly owners are passing on, Stars are appearing at swap meets and inherited by grandchildren who need instruction as to how to operate and care for them. That is why my list was formed specifically for Star Reloader and Luber customers. We are a sociable and helpful group sharing our knowledge swapping, trading and loaning items to each other. There are very knowledgeable members who are commercial reloaders, bulletcasters, competitorsand even a well known gunsmith united in using their Stars.

New Star owners and anyone with unwanted Star machines, parts and acessories are welcome to contact me for assistance.

I have only small supply of original Star parts only as long as they last. I am not in business and cannot restock anything as I am elderly and in not the best health.

Regards Paul Jones

Pistolsmith
January 26, 2003, 07:42 PM
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Paul "Fitz" Jones
January 26, 2003, 09:15 PM
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Pistolsmith
January 26, 2003, 10:02 PM
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Johnny Guest
January 28, 2003, 02:50 PM
Minor difficulties smoothed out. This thread is still open--Some good information to be exchanged on the topic.

Best,
Johnny

alan
January 29, 2003, 08:17 PM
It is my understandng that Star Loaders are no longer made, however I could be wrong.

People used to refer to them as the "ne plus ultra" of loaders, with good reason, from what I've heard. Originally designed for loading handgun carytridges, I believe they had a model rated for bottle neck rifle cases to.

In case anyone is interested in history, the company that made the Star Press was a brass fabricator, their business being irrigation sprinklers, or so the story went. They sort of "wandered" into reloading.

Paul "Fitz" Jones
January 30, 2003, 01:34 AM
I received ten Star Reloaders and Ten Lubers a month while the waiting list was two years and Ira the manager said I was part of the cause for the delay and said since I am such a handy person why don't I take some of our load off and be our Reconditioning Center to do the minor stuff of cleaning adjusting, converting calibers and replacing easily replaceable parts so we can spend more of our time trying to get caught up? So I did and stocked a large supply of parts and Ira also gave me Star paint and Star Decals. Every couple of months I would make a trip there to pick up my order and socialize.
I wish I had taken pictures and gotten to know the other employees. Ira was a very good friend and I still have christmas cards he sent me. Yes they did do other things such as sprinklers and I was shown some beautiful small brass swivels. The government made them make rifle machines during the Vietnam war for tribesmen. I have a Gi Star and loan of 223 rifle dies. They also developed a very large rifle machine for any rifle caliber that I was shown and they did not go into production with it as the owner wanted to close down and did. I know a lot having made many trips and having spent hours there but I would like to hear from anyone with knowledge about the Star company history. I heard that they started off on a local pier but not sure when. I have some files from my many hundreds of Star customers to write up and would appreciate any historical input.

The original Star company is gone and with them is their 70+ years of quality craftsmanship and quality materials. I was injured in 1979 and placed some of my monthly orders of machines and supply of parts into storage which are being used for the benefit of my Star Reloaders Group. There are machine shops that have made copies and and some shop is still making parts. I am not making any thing as am long retired and will stay that way. My Star group archives are readable by anyone but to join you need to possess or have the use of a Star Reloader. Star Luber owners can be honorary members.

Anyone with unwanted Star Reloaders, Lubers, Parts and accessories are invited to contact me for my group.

The California Saeco Bulletcasting tool company that bought out Cramer Bullet Co. about 1947 Also made fuel caps for aircraft and I also spent a lot of time there helping making up some of my mold orders.

respond to Paul Jones coffeyn1@juno.com

Buckhunter
October 23, 2007, 05:37 PM
:confused:Anyone know where I can buy a 9mm toolhead for a Star Universal Reloader? Also a 38 wadcutter seater.

Quantrill
October 23, 2007, 05:48 PM
Buckhunter, I would still check with "Fitz" for parts. See my previous post. Quantrill

alan
October 24, 2007, 12:07 AM
Buckhunter:

Re your question about Star Loader in 9mm caliber, I'm not sure if they ever made anything in that caliber, though they might have.

So far as I know or have heard, they concentrated on calibers 38 and 45. They also made some rifle caliber machines in caliber 30-06, I think.

I know a couple of shoters who own or have used Star Machines. None of the above had a bad word re these machines, insofar as I can recall.

alan
October 24, 2007, 12:13 AM
Paul "Fitz" Jones :

Re Star history, as I understand, the company started as a brass foundery, making sprinkler heads. Somehow, they got involved in the design and manufacture of reloading equipment, which they did an excellent job of, as the story goes.

I've known a couple of shooters who had Star machines. None of these people had anything but high praise for Star equipment.

cdrt
October 24, 2007, 09:39 AM
Anyone know where I can buy a 9mm toolhead for a Star Universal Reloader? Also a 38 wadcutter seater.
Bill, who owns Star Machine Works in Pioneer, CA is back in business. I just picked up some parts from him. You might give him a call or email him about what you need at starmachine@volcano.net. His website is www.starmachineworks.com.

Re your question about Star Loader in 9mm caliber, I'm not sure if they ever made anything in that caliber, though they might have.

Star made machines in .38 Special, .45 ACP, 9mm, .380, .32 ACP, 30 M1 Carbine and .223 Remington to name just a few of the calibers. For more info you can check out www.starreloaders.com where all us old Star guys get together to share info on Stars.

askimball
December 28, 2010, 06:12 PM
Greetings to you Mr. Paul
I'm a retired Police Captain from the Shreveport Police Department...During my time there I reloaded for the Police Pistol team. Also purchased many parts from you..
May I ask what parts you have left, example dies: (Sizer and pistol)..??
If you would so kind and email me at askimball@comcast.net
Regards
Alan 'Doc' Kimball

askimball
December 31, 2010, 06:16 PM
Greetings
How can I contact you to see what parts you have left..???
Alan S. Kimball Retired Shreveport Police Dept

askimball
December 31, 2010, 06:20 PM
Greetings
How can I contact you to get a list of parts you have left..??
Regards
Alan S. Kimball - Retired Shreveport Police Dept

kingmt
January 1, 2011, 06:44 PM
I don't think Paul has been on this form for 2 years.

askimball
January 2, 2011, 03:59 PM
Thanks
Sorry for repeating..........
Hard to get anybody to answer, other forums also........

Black_Talon
January 2, 2011, 06:18 PM
Greetings
How can I contact you to see what parts you have left..???
Alan S. Kimball Retired Shreveport Police Dept

Sign up for the Star Reloaders Forum, you can probably get a good line on parts from the members there:

http://www.starreloaders.com/forum/index.php

lonestarmatt
January 5, 2011, 07:43 PM
It would be good to keep this thread open. I'm a new Star owner and it provided some good info regarding Star history and contact info. Now, if I could only find a few parts: powder slides, base plugs, .45 ACP sizing die, 9mm shellplate, etc.

jwr_747
January 5, 2011, 08:37 PM
concerning the older Star reloaders,Bullseye shooters would give their first born for one.a wonderful piece of tooling...jwr

saltydog452
January 6, 2011, 02:11 PM
My male children are grown.

I have paid Orthodonist, automobile, insurance and educational costs. Too much investment for an unseen swap.

Now, I do have my dog, truck, bride, and ten grand-kids that could be subject for barter.

salty

Kernel
January 7, 2011, 06:12 PM
Star press porn:

WRINGING OUT THE STAR UNIVERSAL PROGRESSIVE LOADER by Kenneth Walters
Handloader Magazine July-August 1977

http://www.riflemagazine.com/magazine/PDF/hl68partial.pdf

angus6
January 8, 2011, 06:57 AM
Matt have you tried Bill @ http://www.starmachineworks.com/index.html for parts ?

mwellan
January 8, 2011, 11:12 AM
Give Rich Daniels at 860-966-0639 a call. If he doesn't have what you want, he can make it

Kevin Rohrer
July 24, 2011, 05:28 PM
An article about the Star:

http://www.riflemagazine.com/magazine/PDF/hl115partial.pdf

EddieNFL
July 24, 2011, 10:33 PM
Now, I do have my dog, truck, bride, and ten grand-kids that could be subject for barter.

Got a picture of the dog?

alan
July 25, 2011, 01:49 AM
NOTHING in the following is intended to denigrate the old, much lamented Star Reloading Machines, from everything that I've either seen or heard about them, I started reloading, using an RCBS Jr. Press in 1965 has indicated that they were about the greatest thing to come along since "sliced bread". As was mentioned earlier in this discussion, the Star Lubricator Sizer is still produced.

Having said that, and also having used one since the early 1980's, the Dillon 550 is a quite good machine also. Their claim to fame, one of them anyhow, is their NO BS WARRANTY, which in my experience is exactly the case. Also, their post sale support and service is something rather special, especially these days. They really do stand behind their products, which by the bye is not to say that Star didn't.

In conclusion, given that, as I understand things, Star Machines are not currently produced, correct me if I'm in error, while the Dillon machines are, a factor that might well answer any number of questions, given that one has to work with what that they can obtain.

A passing note, should anyone be interested. Re Rifle and Handloader magazines, in-so-far as I can recall, I have a complete set of each, which according to my long suffering wife, to hear her talk about it, take up a bunch of room in our smallish townhouse. Should anyone be interested, give me a shout.

Cop Bob
July 25, 2011, 04:03 PM
I and a couple of my older buddys still run Star Presses... I have a one set up in 45ACP. Plus a copy of a Star make by Phelps in 38Spl... Back when we reloaded all our qualification ammo at the range, it was all on Star Presses.

My one buddy Don has 6 of them, and buying more when he finds them.. Occasionally they can be seen on Ebay. general sale price is in the neighborhood of $400.00.

Are they good units... oh yes.... just got to remember to keep the seating die clean if you are using a heavy soft "Alox" type lube with cast bullets. But that is no different than any other loader.

Before Dillon, if you were a serious pistol shooter, it was the best you could get.... and still nothing to sneeze at..


Thanks for posting the link to the article. I knew that they offered one in .223, I had a friend that had one, but never realized that it was a totally separate machine.. I wonder what happened to it, We lost him to bone cancer at far to young an age.. I thought I was fairly knowledgeable about the Stars, but the article educated me some, I have never seen one cut for Std 7/8" dies..

SOF Supporter
December 6, 2011, 08:42 PM
My dad developed and sold an "indexer" for the star that rotated the shell holder by pressing on the side of the shell casing. It would eject the loaded round into a bin via a cable that connected to the handle. Right hand operated the lever, left hand put the lead bulled on top of the primed and powered case. one stroke, one round. I spent many hours feeding empty shell casings into the clear platic tubes that fed the machine. Sadly, he sold both his stars before I could get my hands on them. I guess I wasn't "worthy" of a Star. But I have his Hollywood with a ton of dies. It's the one with a shiny central cylander. weighs like 75 lbs. Haven't set it up yet. He used it for rifle rounds, all the handguns were on the star. He also got rid of his swager and lubricator/sizer.....

Kevin Rohrer
December 8, 2011, 11:11 AM
SOF: would you mind posting a pic of your Hollywood? I am always interested in seeing them (I have four).

SOF Supporter
December 9, 2011, 02:37 PM
Will do, but it will take me until Christmas week to unbox it (just moved). I know I saw the manual for it recently...list price back in 19?? was like $475. A lot of cash back then.

Kevin Rohrer
December 9, 2011, 09:15 PM
That price sounds way high, unless it is their huge shotshell reloader. I have their catalogs from 1959 and 1985; do you recall the model name?

SOF Supporter
December 10, 2011, 01:41 AM
No, but it was the orig manual that came with it, I think. Not trying to sell it, just saying what the catalog price was. Probably late 60's. I'll know more in a week or so. Central 4 inch or so cylinder with rotating turret on top with spots for a bunch of rcbs dies.

Not a shotshell reloader, definitely rifle. He loaded 30-30, 30-06, 222, and 22-250 I think.

Kevin Rohrer
December 10, 2011, 08:45 AM
(not trying to hijack the thread)

It sounds like you are talking about the Senior Turret. It's the one in the foreground:
http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/KevinRohrer/Reloading/IMG_0627.jpg

Jim Watson
December 10, 2011, 03:52 PM
Back in 1978 I bought a CH AutoCHamp straight line progressive because I was too cheap to pay for a Star. And the CH was more then than a Dillon 550 is now, although it did come with case feeder and dies.

The CH is still sitting in the corner with Dillons and Rockchucker set up in the new shop.
I'll probably just load .38s on the 550 when I get my revolvers going again; the old CH is just too finicky to keep in adjustment. The primer feed is actually better than Dillon but the powder measure will dump on an empty station and the straight line advance is just a pain in the neck.
Maybe I can find a reloading press collector who will appreciate it.

Red Cent
December 10, 2011, 08:00 PM
JW, I had a CH Auto in the late 70s. What a tank. And yes, the speed bumps were difficult to keep clean and operational. I did load a truck full of 45ACPs. Thats the only press that I had a primer follower stuck in the ceiling:cuss:.

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