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Sisco
January 18, 2003, 06:02 PM
Dealer gave me a box of Sellier & Bellot 45acp when I picked up my Kimber, is this stuff good to reload? Looks thinner than my other brass, haven't done a water weight test yet.

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coonan357
January 18, 2003, 07:07 PM
have had no problems to date reloading the stuff , about 60% of my range brass is this make , followed by winchester and the dreaded AMerc :banghead:

Nanook
January 18, 2003, 07:12 PM
I've got hundreds of pieces of S & B brass in several different calibers. I have had zero problems with any of them. 9mm, .40, and .45acp mostly, with some .223 and 7.62x54R for good measure. I actually get excited when I find range brass and it's S & B. :p

BTW, Sisco, I like your Moodies sig line, one of my favorite groups.

I've heard all of the bad press about Amerc, and I usually deep-six the stuff. My shooting buddy uses it without problems but it worries me.

KP95DAO
January 18, 2003, 07:25 PM
Their 357 SIG brass used to be soft; but, this seems to not be the case for the last year. I still find their 40S&W brass to be softer than I feel comfortable with. So I deep six that brass. The rest is fine for the commonly used pressure range of those rounds.

coonan357
January 18, 2003, 07:49 PM
I use the Amerc as target ammo ... as its the target when plinking with the .22 :o

Swamp Yankee
January 18, 2003, 10:38 PM
Have loaded S&B .308 Win., .223 Rem., and 9mm with no problems. I have found the primer pockets on the 9mm to be a bit tight on some lots.
Take Care

larryw
January 18, 2003, 11:56 PM
Load tons of 45 with S&B brass. No real problems, love the stuff, lasts forever.

Primer pockets are tighter than others, but I consider that to be a good thing. Had better luck with harder primers (Win) than the softer ones (Fed).

Sisco
January 19, 2003, 09:18 AM
Looks unanimous. I'll load 'em up.
Thanks people!

stans
January 19, 2003, 10:19 AM
I have loaded some S&B 45 ACP brass, I found the primer pockets to be very tight. Using A-merc brass as targets? Finally, a good use for A-merc brass has been found!

Trsnrtr
January 19, 2003, 11:39 AM
I shoot and then reload a lot of S&B in 9mm and .40SW. I've never had any problems at all reloading the cases.

agony
January 19, 2003, 01:13 PM
The S&B .45acp cases are my all time favorite. Load smooth, prime smooth, and they clean up after tumbling better than any other case out there.

The 9mm S&B is decent also, but have trouble priming at times as the pockets are as mentioned, too tight.

Gewehr98
January 19, 2003, 01:16 PM
I've been reloading a bunch of S&B .45 ACP through my Dillons, no problem.

I just acquired several hundred pieces of S&B 8mm Mauser brass, and will fire up the presses soon, using what appears to be well-made Boxer-primed S&B brass. Gawd, I loved being a rangemaster at the end of the shooting day, free brass!!!:evil:

Sisco
January 19, 2003, 05:07 PM
Resized the S&B stuff today, felt a lot more resistance in the die than with my other brass. Reason could be that the S&B is once fired, the other stuff many times fired. Primer seating was stiffer too, probably for the same reason.

Dave T
January 20, 2003, 10:17 AM
I must not be living right because I have had nothing but problems with S&B brass (in 45 ACP). The primer pockets act like mil surplus crimped pockets and I found the only way to avoid problems priming them in a progressive was to swage them the same way I do military (Dillon primer pocket swager). Even after that, they do not full length size without using two hands and a red face. Then, when examined, they have a ring at the base which will eventually turn into a "belted magnum" ring that really screws with feeding reliability.
I have several thousand rounds of the stuff that just sets. I'd sell it cheep but nobody would want to pay shipping.
This where I would put in the YMMV thing, but in this case it would have to mean "Your Milage 'Must' Vary".

larryw
January 20, 2003, 03:45 PM
Dave, I'll take it off your hands, I'll PM for details.

1goodshot
January 20, 2003, 06:44 PM
Ive had trouble reloading 9mm and 40S&W S&B brass.I dont use it anymore.Thier new ammo shoots ok through all of my guns.

LIProgun
January 21, 2003, 04:55 PM
I've reloaded lots of S&B brass and I find it is of good quality. However, I have to run it through a primer crimp remover or else I get too many deformed primers.

The odd thing is that most (about 95+%) of cases from a given box of ammo will take a primer just fine, but that other 5-or-so percent will either not accept a primer or will deform it on seating. To avoid the frustration of having to disassemble loaded rounds with deformed primers, I now pass all S&B brass through the crimp remover. Fortunately, this only has to be done once for each piece of brass.

Chainsaw
January 22, 2003, 10:51 PM
I have loaded S&B 9mm with good results and have used WSP primers for this brass. My ammo has a 1983 date on the boxes.
Could this primer pocket problem be associated with certain S&B brass only, or is the problem some of the posters to this thread have been having with all S&B brass regardless of date.
Granted one would have to first have/shoot the new ammo to know this, but it is a suggestion as to how this might apply???

LongShotsin10
October 1, 2006, 01:03 PM
I can't speak for their other brass but the batch of brass (mixed) I have been reloading, every S&B Sig 357 has an uneven bludge in it. Whether it is from the person's piece that fired it or not I don't know. Rather than try to resize it again it gets chucked into the "Brass for Junkyard" bucket.
Hopefully there isn't too much of it in the lot. :cuss:
When I full length size it I end up with a grooved lip, only with their brass though, and I check each reload before storing. Yes it takes a bit longer but when you depend on a round chambering and firing - I'll take the extra time.

Chet

CSA 357
October 3, 2006, 07:36 PM
I have loaded a good bit of s&b 38 brass , seems to split pretty fast,

dakotasin
October 4, 2006, 09:40 AM
i generally avoid s&b brass. it isn't real bad, but the tight primer pockets are a general nuisance, and the life seems to be short.

db_tanker
October 4, 2006, 10:38 AM
My only experience with S&B was with 30 WCF and it wasn't too bad...

until I tried to resize it and use it for 7-30 Waters...


Had some split necks on about 75% of what I had fire-formed...pulled the bullets on the rest and tossed it.

With as much Winchester and Green Box laying on the ground, I didn't feel too bad about it.

And the primer pockets needed to be swaged on this stuff, as well...REAL tight. :(

D

dfaugh
October 4, 2006, 10:58 AM
Don't know about their pistol brass, never reloaded any.

I just acquired several hundred pieces of S&B 8mm Mauser brass, and will fire up the presses soon, using what appears to be well-made Boxer-primed S&B brass

My buddy and I tried reloading 8mm Mauser brass (light to medium loads, nothing hot) and had case head seperations (or signs thereof) after 3-4 loadings. Might have something to do with technique, but same setup gave us no problems with several loadings of Win/Rem brass.

FJC
October 4, 2006, 11:00 AM
I've never had a problem with S&B brass. As stated, the primer pockets are tighter than others, but that has NEVER been a problem for me on my single stage or Dillion 550B.

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