300 gr. for 45-70


January 20, 2003, 04:05 PM
Has any one used 3oogr. flat- nose bullets in the 45-70. Has anyone used them as reloads and can 6they be stabalized.

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January 20, 2003, 05:32 PM
300 grain Remington HP and 300 grain lead flat nose both work well out of my Marlin 1985. At 1300 fps, recoil is almost nil.

January 20, 2003, 05:53 PM
I use them in my NEF 45-70 at 2100 fps and they are very accurate. Hornady 300 JHP, that is.

Jim Watson
January 20, 2003, 05:59 PM
A friend of mine shoots 300 grain Sierras and 330 grain cast Gould Express in his .450 Black Powder Express and .45-90. They stabilize in those slow twist barrels, they will surely do so in a .45-70.

January 20, 2003, 06:25 PM
I load the Rem 300g HP for my #1. Clover leafing at 100yards is not a problem.


January 21, 2003, 07:41 AM
When they first came out, I tried the Nosler 300gr. PAR in my Ruger #1. It's now my primary #1 .45-70 load for hunting.

With a MAX charge of IMR4198, I get a chronoraphed 2180 fps out of that little 22" barrel.

This load is safe in the #1, the Marlin line of .45-70's and similar rifles/carbines but NOT in any of the older or weaker actions. I have a new model 1886 Winchester take down and was advised not to use it in this rifle. ??? It hits hard on both ends.

When I spoke with Nosler tech support on the phone about this load, they said it was safe in the #1 because, "the sky's the limit with the #1".

Accuracy at 100 yds. is generally around an inch from my #1, sometimes an inch and a quarter. I've had 3-shot groups that have all three touching when I do my part.

I feel this load adds maybe 50 yds. to the lethal range of the .45-70 on deer size game. Maybe black bear also.

Robert inOregon
January 21, 2003, 02:20 PM
300 grain Oregon trail lead bullet over 25 grains of 2400. Good accurate load for plinking with a Guide Gun.

Northwest Cajun
January 21, 2003, 07:53 PM
I just got back from experimenting with 300gr HP's , here is what I found out;

Rem 300gr HP's, Reloader #7 & CCI LRP. start at about 55gr and work up, you will not get past 57 or 58 without flat primers in a guide gun.... with 58 you are right at 2000 fps but the primers are too little flat for my taste. :what:


January 22, 2003, 02:33 PM
I reload the Remington 300 gr. JHP's for 2 Marlin guide guns with 60 grains of H322 and they shoot very well...........this is my main deer hunting load.........

October 26, 2006, 03:11 PM
Along these same lines.... does anyone have reloading information about Barnes 45-70 300GR "XFN" cannelured bullets for the Marlin 1895, 45-70 Govt.?

I love my 45.70 and got an elk with it last year using 400 grain JFP bullets but they made quite a mess of things. It was a 200 yd shot with "iron" sights so I just centered it on the target that was quartering towards me. The 400gr bullet passed completely through the medium sized cow from shoulder to rear ham, including passing through a full stomach of grass! It blew up the front shoulder and opposite rear ham completely! Shot placement is quite important when using a buffalo gun on an elk. I would like to avoid wasting half an elk again so I thought the 300 gr. X-bullet would help that a bit.

Any info?

October 26, 2006, 08:43 PM
We've been shooting them in a Marlin 1895G over 14 grains of Trail Boss (I think) Nice pussycat of a load . . groups pretty well. (not much powder fouling . .if any)


October 26, 2006, 09:24 PM
Just made and shot my first 300-grain load for my Uberti High Wall: 29 grains of H4227 under a Georgia Arms 300 gr JHP (which looks identical to the bullet Remington uses in its factory ammo). It was GREAT -- very accurate, very pleasant. Just guessing, I'd say it does around 1500 fps from the 30" barrel on the High Wall. I'm going to up the charge to 31 grains, see if that tightens 'em up even more.

CSA 357
October 27, 2006, 07:12 PM
my b 78 browning will shoot the 300 gr fnhp hornady in one hole, with 61 gr of 3031

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