Anyone have a obrez?


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FIVETWOSEVEN
March 29, 2010, 07:04 PM
Just wondering but does anyone have a short barrelled Mosin in their safe? if so post a picture!

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TexasRifleman
March 29, 2010, 07:38 PM
Someone here posted a picture of one once, and I believe they had a You Tube video of them firing it. Can't remember who it was. Crazy things those are !

FIVETWOSEVEN
March 29, 2010, 07:39 PM
Yeah I would love to make one someday.

taliv
March 29, 2010, 08:05 PM
never even heard of it. sounds pretty wild

mp510
March 29, 2010, 08:06 PM
I believe that PTK has one.

TexasRifleman
March 29, 2010, 08:29 PM
I believe that PTK has one.

Yes! That's who it was. I couldn't remember. He posted the links to some insane you tube videos showing the muzzle flash on that thing. Maybe he will stumble across this thread, I can't find the vids.

Joe Demko
March 29, 2010, 08:34 PM
"Obrez" doesn't refer just to shortened Mosins. It's a generic term for any cut-down shoulder arm. So, we have lots of Obrez owners at this board.

Mandolin
March 30, 2010, 12:09 AM
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=75265&d=1206510107
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=75264&d=1206510099

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNFsUvh078I&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ixyhUDhPLA&feature=channel_page

Pics and video coppied from a thread in the archive of PTK's famous Mosin-SBR.

RyanM
March 30, 2010, 12:25 AM
Okay. I want one badly, now. Anyone selling a junker Mosin with a crappy stock and messed-up barrel, in PA state?

I wonder if it'd be louder than a Serbu? The fireball looks smaller than a Serbu with 3" magnum slugs...

Wait, what's the legality of declaring an imported barreled receiver as a "pistol?" I know it's 100% kosher on domestic firearms for the first owner on a 4473 (shotgun AOWs, AR-15 receivers, etc.), but what about imports? Imported stuff usually needs a new serial number and everything. If anyone is importing barreled actions, anyway.

CleverNickname
March 30, 2010, 12:26 PM
I doubt you'll be able to find a Mosin receiver that's never been made into a rifle. Also, why bother finding an especially trashy Mosin to SBR when perfectly good ones are under $100?

PTK
March 30, 2010, 05:07 PM
Yep, it's mine, and it is louder than my 12" barreled 870, louder than my 8" side-by-side, and louder than any gun I own currently.

anyone selling a junker Mosin with a crappy stock and messed-up barrel, in PA state?

Yes but not in PA state. I'll dig it out if you want it.

RyanM
March 30, 2010, 05:40 PM
Also, why bother finding an especially trashy Mosin to SBR when perfectly good ones are under $100?

Mainly so I can hack it down without any guilt. Also, because I'm just that frugal (stingy, if you prefer :P).

And hm, I guess it may as well be an SBR, just so I can use a stock sometimes.

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Yes but not in PA state. I'll dig it out if you want it.

Thanks for offering, but no thanks. When you figure in shipping and the transfer fee, a $30 junker from out of state costs as much as finding a $75 gun locally.

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On the topic of ammo, I've heard that these were normally used with reduced loads. They'd pull the bullet, remove some of the powder (maybe set it aside for making IEDs if they were a Jewish freedom fighter during WWII, or something), and put the bullet back in. I wonder if putting the bullet in backwards would still feed? Don't know how tolerant of crazy bullet shapes Mosins are, but that'd increase the damage done by at least an order of magnitude. Uh, are Mosins push-feed or Mauser type feed? I really don't know anything about them.

SDC
March 30, 2010, 06:15 PM
"Obrez" is a contraction of the Russian "obrazets", meaning "pattern of"; the Mosin-Nagant was originally known as the "obrazets 1891", and was commonly kept and sometimes sawn-off by discharged soldiers.

FIVETWOSEVEN
March 30, 2010, 07:07 PM
I saw one somewhere that had a front sight that basically looked like a mini mosin than what PTK did.

Can you make one of these like a normal rifle made in the US? or do you have to do something different?

PTK
March 31, 2010, 01:24 PM
No, you must register it as an SBR, as stated in this thread. You cannot legally just cut a rifle down to that size without a tax stamp.

Dravur
March 31, 2010, 01:49 PM
Ive shot PTKs Mosin... Not too bad if you hold onto it with a death grip, wear ear plugs, muffs and cover your head in a sound dampening blanket. You should also fire it closer to your hip or you could be wearing said Mosin in your forehead

PTK
March 31, 2010, 01:59 PM
Whiner. :D

GunsBeerFreedom
March 31, 2010, 02:37 PM
You should also fire it closer to your hip or you could be wearing said Mosin in your forehead

That's the best line I've heard on these boards in LOOOOONNNNG time. Thanks for that :)

FIVETWOSEVEN
March 31, 2010, 11:17 PM
What I meant above was can you make it like any other shortbarrelled rifle? but thanks for the answer.

RyanM
April 1, 2010, 12:51 AM
Serious question, are there any other rifles that may have common cheap junkers available, that might be louder than a Mosin? I'm still thinking about making an obrez.

Also, anyone that thinks one of those kicks hard enough to knock out teeth, should really try a Serbu Super Shorty, with a 3" magnum slug (chronoed at 1250 FPS). One-handed. :p

RS14
April 1, 2010, 01:06 AM
Serious question, are there any other rifles that may have common cheap junkers available, that might be louder than a Mosin? I'm still thinking about making an obrez.

I was considering those 6.5mm Arisakas that were re-chambered in 30-06 without being re-barreled.

(Note that actually using one is almost certainly a bad idea. :))

PTK
April 1, 2010, 05:03 AM
What I meant above was can you make it like any other shortbarrelled rifle? but thanks for the answer.
Yes.

Serious question, are there any other rifles that may have common cheap junkers available, that might be louder than a Mosin? I'm still thinking about making an obrez.

I've fired a 12" barreled 7mm Mauser that is significantly louder than my 91/30 SBR.


Also, anyone that thinks one of those kicks hard enough to knock out teeth, should really try a Serbu Super Shorty, with a 3" magnum slug (chronoed at 1250 FPS). One-handed.

Done that with my single-shot 12ga shorty. Never again.

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