De Lisle Carbine


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General Geoff
May 21, 2010, 03:25 PM
Anyone here have a repro (or original!) De Lisle Carbine? Supposedly they're one of the quietest firearms ever built. In the future when I make an NFA trust, I'd like to get one. Are there any companies which make these currently? If so, how is their quality?

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zoom6zoom
May 21, 2010, 03:30 PM
One of the guys on the Weapons Guild forum built a non-suppressed copy, but it's the only one I know of. From accounts I've read, the original was quiet, but not very accurate or reliable. The Sterling Mk V was supposedly even quieter.

waterhouse
May 21, 2010, 05:18 PM
Don't know much about them, but a company named Valkyrie Arms either made copies or was planning on making them, but I couldn't find much on them with a quick google search.

ETA: I search a little harder:
http://www.valkyriearms.com/delisle.htm

crushbup
May 21, 2010, 10:08 PM
Valkyrie Arms is bankrupt. Special Interest Arms is what you're looking for.

PTK
May 21, 2010, 10:21 PM
Anyone here have a repro (or original!) De Lisle Carbine? Supposedly they're one of the quietest firearms ever built. In the future when I make an NFA trust, I'd like to get one. Are there any companies which make these currently? If so, how is their quality?
They were the quietest silenced rifle built, in the 1940s. There are far, far quieter (and smaller) options currently.

xx7grant7x
May 21, 2010, 11:23 PM
i like 9mm ar-15 upper w cobra mk 2 can

Ian
May 21, 2010, 11:26 PM
I've handled a Valkyrie repro, as well as a hand-crafted one and an original one. The Valkyrie was okay, but not great in terms of detail. I don't know of any source for a really nice one, short of having the skills to build it yourself.

Zundfolge
May 22, 2010, 12:43 AM
Valkyrie Arms is bankrupt. Special Interest Arms is what you're looking for.

Yep, Special Interest Arms

http://www.specialinterestarms.com/

They make integrally suppressed Enfields converted to .45acp (using 1911 mags) but they aren't 100% true DeLisle Carbines (although I believe they plan on making one more true to the original DeLisle with its offset suppressor and iron sights).

http://www.specialinterestarms.com/MVC-119E.JPG

I believe they only want about a grand for their "Silent Carbine" (don't remember if that was for a complete rifle or to build one on your Enfield).

I expect the full on DeLisle will be a couple grand.

Plus $200 tax stamp of course.

But yeah, they're pretty doggone quiet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMei19G_hqA
(several other vids on YouTube ifn you search)



Edited to add:

I've been seriously thinking about getting one of the SIA Enfields ... but then I see this (http://www.srtarms.com/camp.htm) and I'm all torn.
http://www.srtarms.com/campcarb.jpg

Also the company that does the camp carbines also will integrally suppress your .45acp or 9mm AR upper and frankly THAT would be the way to go from a pure function standpoint.

jonnyc
May 22, 2010, 10:41 AM
I got the .45 ACP kit from SIA for an Enfield No.4. I wasn't hard to do and I'm very pleased with the results. The ejection isn't 100%, but I'm workin' on it. It's still pretty quiet with my .45 Super loads, even without a can.

Ranb
May 22, 2010, 12:27 PM
I have a conversion kit from Rhineland Arms. It consists of a 45 acp barrel and a mag adaptor. I used it to make a near copy of the delisle carbine. The silencer is actually for my 510 whisper with the spacers removed and the baffles stacked at the muzzle end. I profiled the barrel to fit the can. The original has an offset can and shortened bolt that requires a set back barrel. I also put an AK underfolding stock and EER scope on it.

If WA ever passes bill 1604 to allow silencer use, I will shorten the bolt, cut the barrel down to 10 inches, set it back and permanently attach a 45 caliber silencer to it to get around the SBR ban.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u320/ranb40/firearms/enfield.jpg

It is shown here with a silencer shaped barrel shroud in place of the longer 50 caliber silencer.

Ranb

Ian
May 22, 2010, 09:59 PM
The ejection isn't 100%, but I'm workin' on it.

Don't feel bad - they had some trouble with ejection on the originals too.

Zundfolge
May 24, 2010, 12:12 AM
The ejection issues are one of the main reason I haven't already bought one (the second being I haven't gone through the NFA process before).

PTK
May 24, 2010, 12:14 AM
Call Alan Samuel in Dumont. He'll walk you through it all, and it's EASY.

rodinal220
May 24, 2010, 07:58 PM
Yes,Valkyrie Arms is currently defunct.Do not deal with them or the owner Valeri Johnson,total scam artists.They ripped off alot of people right before they tanked.If s(he) showed up at Knob Creek I think it would be lynched.

steven04
May 31, 2010, 07:27 AM
I've got a repro De Lisle. (Shown here with my Reflex T16 .50bmg can)

Its a copy of a Sterling model De Lisle Carbine.

The guy who built it had exclusive access to an original which enabled him to build the replica as accurately as possible.

Its amazingly quiet, no problems with ejection either.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/nokiapics/31102009942.jpg

Mine's as quiet as this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMei19G_hqA&feature=related

FIVETWOSEVEN
May 31, 2010, 10:52 PM
Wow thats quiet, beats a .22.

Corey
June 1, 2010, 12:20 PM
I had the opportunity to shoot an original DeLisle about 15 years ago. I shot it on steel plates at 25 and 50 yards, with a total of about 50 rounds fired (all Federal Hydra-Shock). It was very quiet even by today's standards. I shot a couple of rounds into the berm at 50 yards and from the firing line the bullet impact was louder than the gun. When you have that big a can for a pistol cartridge it does not need to be a very advanced design to be quiet. It was accurate enough to hit 8" plates every time. I realize that isn't saying much, but I did not get the chance to shoot it on paper.

The DeLisle may be primitive by todays standards and not very practical, but it ranks pretty high for cool factor.

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