Anyone else had something like this happen?


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VHinch
December 27, 2002, 01:42 AM
I've carried 230 gr. Hydra-Shoks in my 1911's for quite a while now, and been very pleased with them. Recently however, a shooting buddy suggested I try the Winchester white box "Personal Defense" load from Wal-Mart, and it groups better than anything else I've tried! I've now shot a total of about 900 rounds of this ammo through my 2 carry guns with no malfunctions and excellent results. Any reason not to switch to it as my carry load? On a side note, are there any other Kappa Sigma alumni here?

Thanks
Vance

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Stephen A. Camp
December 27, 2002, 01:45 AM
Hello, sir. Over at www.ammolab.com there's been quite a bit of discussion on both loads you mention. You'll have to join the forum there if you wish to read/participate, I think. At the ammolab part, you can click on "test results" and then pick the caliber you want to see. Quite a bit of information, if interested.

Best.

boing
December 27, 2002, 11:06 AM
I carry it. It works.

Spackler
December 27, 2002, 11:29 AM
I think the White Box stuff is as good as or better than a lot of the high-dollar "designer" rounds out there.

3 gun
December 27, 2002, 01:25 PM
If it works in your gun and goes where you aim, no reason that I can think of not to use it. Plus the lower cost will allow you to practice more with your carry ammo.

Metatron
December 27, 2002, 01:27 PM
I like the white box. It's always been good to me.

I hear Strom Thurmond likes it too :rolleyes:

Neal Bloom
December 27, 2002, 01:38 PM
Got the white box .45 for personal defense as a Christmas present. Haven't had the opportunity to try it yet. Others tell me that in .45 it is good. If it works in your gun then use it. A lot cheaper then the designer brands.

I am not impressed with the 9mm white box ammo from Wally World. It seems to shoot to the left out of my SIG and BHP. At first I thought it was me but when I use reloads I can see the difference. I buy it just to save the brass for reloading.

Can hardly wait to try the 45 ammo.

Metatron
December 27, 2002, 01:58 PM
I noticed a big difference between white box "personal defense" ammo and the white box "practice" ammo. The practice ammo I have a ton of, it is 1) cheap, and 2) brass cased, oh and 3) cheap.

triggertime
December 27, 2002, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by VHinch
a shooting buddy suggested I try the Winchester white box "Personal Defense" load from Wal-Mart, and it groups better than anything else I've tried!

The last time I tried Winchester 230gr. 'Personal Protection' (USA45JHP), I wasn't too impressed with the level of quality control.

There were too many dented cases and lightly stamped case heads for my liking.

Accuracy wise, it was considerably less accurate than Speer 230gr. Gold Dot HP at 7 yards.

Chipperman
December 27, 2002, 05:51 PM
I would not hesitate to carry a load that I was confidant would go bang and would hit where I wanted it to go.

ChickenHawk
December 27, 2002, 06:02 PM
Not only that, but Wal-Mart is the only place I've found which sells the white-box in 100 count boxes.

These are packed loose (ie. not in the styrophome packaging that holds each cartridge). And the price is under $11.00 per box.

You can't beat it!!

ChickenHawk

blades67
December 27, 2002, 07:59 PM
The Wal-marts in my area don't carry it.

MR.G
December 28, 2002, 03:21 PM
I never had a problem with the white box ammo. If it shoots good in your gun, use it.

BiG_MaN
December 28, 2002, 05:05 PM
With 900 rounds and no stoppages, I'd say use it by all means!

Coffee357
December 29, 2002, 02:56 AM
Almost the same thing happened to me! The price drove me to
try it and I found it to shoot very reliably and POA/POI in my G19. I
saw the stats on it somewhere and compared it to my ol' standby
round (Federal 9bp). Seems like it expanded just a smidge less
and, as a result, went a smidge deeper in gelatin. With almost
1000 rounds of the Win white box JHP through my Glock, I trust
it absolutely. When I'm not loaded with 9BP, I'm loaded with
the Winchester. Seems to be a good load at a great price!

Coffee

Kevinch
December 29, 2002, 08:44 AM
Wow - I have to admit I didn't know about the white box PD ammunition. What is the .45ACP bullet weight, & how much does it cost?

Kevinch
December 29, 2002, 08:49 AM
Oh - & Stephen, you have an extra character in your link for AmmoLab. This will get you there: http://www.ammolab.com

Just thought I'd help out! :)

boing
December 29, 2002, 09:21 AM
I've only seen the .45 white-box JHP in 230 gr, and the 9mm in 115 and 147.

Just under $17 per 50 rd box at WalMart for the .45, and $11 for the 9mm.

Stephen A. Camp
December 29, 2002, 10:28 AM
Hello, Kevinch. Thanks. I went ahead and corrected the mistake with the errant comma.

Best.

VHinch
December 29, 2002, 09:15 PM
Kevinch- In .45, its a 230 gr. bullet, and my Walmart regularly has it for $15.99 for a 50 round box.

Orion
December 30, 2002, 11:53 AM
Metatron that kinda talk will get you in serious trouble.

Stephen I'm gonna go over and check out ammo lab. If it's less expensive and works well at what it's supposed to do why not use it.

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