Dead To Rights for PS2


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Big Al
December 27, 2002, 01:30 PM
Just got this game for Christmas and can't put it down. Yeah, I know, video games - I'm not really into them but this one ROCKS. Pretty straightforward - kick-butt action, lots of cool weaponry.

Here's a quick rundown on the weapons:
*.45 and .50 automatics, one in each hand
*silenced Beretta 92s and M11s, one in each hand (full-auto M11)
*scoped S&W 629 44 magnum
*double barrelled sawed off SG, Spas12, and a full-auto SG (A-2?)
*AKM, M60, MP5, and M4 Carbine assault rifles, full-auto
*two sniper rifles with zoom scopes
*rocket and grenade launchers
*flamethrower
*attack dog that rips out throats on command (and retrieves the victim's weapons)

Gameplay is supurb:
*full contact hand to hand, punches, kicks, and throws
*when unarmed, your character can take weapons from enemies with really gruesome slow-motion disarm techniques
*slow-motion, Matrix-style attacks that let you empty full mags before ememies can react
*lots of blood-n-guts, head shots stop pretty much anyone
*puzzles to solve, really tough bosses
*interesting storyline with lots of twists and turns

I'm a long way off from beating this one. But as far as Matrix-gunplay games, this one rules. Merry Christmas!

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Metatron
December 27, 2002, 02:10 PM
I just got Rogue Spear for my birthday yesterday. I have only had a little time to play it, but I did manage to get my whole team killed ;) .

Betty
December 27, 2002, 02:45 PM
Gaming threads and movie threads....

It's hasn't really been discussed with the other Mods and threads like these tend to be "iffy", but we'll keep this one on as long as it sticks to it's "guns", like relating how accurate/innacurate the game's tactics are, are the weapons mechanics comparable to the real deal or do you never have to reload magazines, do video games make little kiddies self-proclaimed experts on real firearms ;) etc.

.. and as long as I don't come back to find twenty other gaming threads popping up like mushrooms.

Andrew Wyatt
December 27, 2002, 02:49 PM
is the .50 automatic a Desert eagle?


I'm currently boycotting games that feture desert eagles to shot my utter hatred for games that are uncreative enough not to feature something besides desert eagles.

TexasFred
December 27, 2002, 05:28 PM
At least its good to see that i'm not the only person on this forum that plays video games.;)

Phyphor
December 27, 2002, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by runt_of_the_litter
Gaming threads and movie threads....

It's hasn't really been discussed with the other Mods and threads like these tend to be "iffy", but we'll keep this one on as long as it sticks to it's "guns", like relating how accurate/innacurate the game's tactics are, are the weapons mechanics comparable to the real deal or do you never have to reload magazines, do video games make little kiddies self-proclaimed experts on real firearms ;) etc.

.. and as long as I don't come back to find twenty other gaming threads popping up like mushrooms.

****. I've seen this happen! Kids turning into 'gun experts' based on some crap game they played. You should see the counterstrike kiddies that think an AR-15 is charged by yanking the forward assist back.....

Phyphor
December 27, 2002, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by Andrew wyatt
is the .50 automatic a Desert eagle?


I'm currently boycotting games that feture desert eagles to shot my utter hatred for games that are uncreative enough not to feature something besides desert eagles.

No kidding. There's literally hundreds of other makes and models of pistols. Why the hell are they obsessing over the DE?

Jonpod
December 27, 2002, 06:06 PM
Big Al,

Does this game have a multi-player option for head to head combat?

Jon

Big Al
December 27, 2002, 06:48 PM
It's pretty much a straightforward 1 player game.

The .45s, though, look like makarovs and the .50s look like CZ-52s. The 629 looks like a Taurus Tracker. Other than that, they're all pretty realistic.

There is no reloading on this game. You simply pitch the weapon when empty, and pick up another one - the New York Reload. It's pretty cool to watch as the character empties two pistols and snatches two more from his belt (you can carry up to four pistols), then empties them into three or four guys in one slow-motion Chow Yun Fat/John Woo-style dive.

Andrew Wyatt
December 27, 2002, 07:50 PM
.No kidding. There's literally hundreds of other makes and models of pistols. Why the hell are they obsessing over the DE?

I said "enough!" when they put the DE in the expansion for Rainbow Six.

Diesle
December 27, 2002, 08:09 PM
Im crazy about SOCOM for PS2 right now. Online gameplay over fast internet. Replay value is way up there, very engaging. You have to be OK with the kill or be killed theme.

Diesle

Brian Maffei
December 27, 2002, 08:24 PM
Haven't played this game, but Max Payne is a really good one....you can slow everything down to get some truly great John Woo moments.

George Hill
December 27, 2002, 09:00 PM
There is a plethora of truly excellent gun games out there.

Rogue Spear.
Operation Flashpoint.
Ghost Recon.
No one lives forever 2.
Max Payne.
AvsP2.
GTAIII. (okay that is a stretch... but an awefully FUN stretch)
Soldier of Fortune 2.
Undying. (it has a pistol and a shotgun!)

I love a good game... The more realistic the better. Red Storm Entertainment is doing it up the best.

KevlarTester
December 27, 2002, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by runt_of_the_litter
Gaming threads and movie threads....

It's hasn't really been discussed with the other Mods and threads like these tend to be "iffy", but we'll keep this one on as long as it sticks to it's "guns", like relating how accurate/innacurate the game's tactics are, are the weapons mechanics comparable to the real deal or do you never have to reload magazines, do video games make little kiddies self-proclaimed experts on real firearms ;) etc.

.. and as long as I don't come back to find twenty other gaming threads popping up like mushrooms.

Is this the General Discussion area?

Please, Take the High Road and let it be.

MAKOwner
December 28, 2002, 12:29 AM
I was just playing some Splinter Cell for the Xbox the other day, and then tried out the demo for the PC.... **** is that game badass. Puts the competition to shame, you should check it out if you like stealth combat type games.

Amegatek
December 28, 2002, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by MAKOwner
I was just playing some Splinter Cell for the Xbox the other day, and then tried out the demo for the PC.... **** is that game badass. Puts the competition to shame, you should check it out if you like stealth combat type games.

I agree 100%. Splinter Cell is awesome. :D

But then again, all of Tom Clancy's "shooters" are awesome. Haven't played the PC Demo yet, what are the controls like?

Andrew Wyatt
December 28, 2002, 01:42 AM
yeah, splinter cell was great. I especially liked the glowing green NVGs. :rolleyes:

rifleman
December 28, 2002, 03:56 AM
****. I've seen this happen! Kids turning into 'gun experts' based on some crap game they played. You should see the counterstrike kiddies that think an AR-15 is charged by yanking the forward assist back.....

I always thought they yanked the charging handle back in that game... does my memory fail me?

dinosaur
December 28, 2002, 07:27 AM
Originally posted by Andrew wyatt
yeah, splinter cell was great. I especially liked the glowing green NVGs. :rolleyes:

They got you out of the minefield, didn`t they? :D I found them useless for the door codes.

You can`t carry 47 guns at once. :mad: It `s so not realistic! :rolleyes: And the pistol is crummy. You might have to shoot the BG 3 or 4 times. Gimme a D.E. anyday! Not to mention you have to control your breathing in sniper mode! Agh! Not many rounds so you can`t rock and roll from beginning to end. This game is so not gun friendly! A thinking person`s gun game? It`ll never sell.:D

Kharn
December 28, 2002, 08:20 AM
I have played both Dead to Rights (on the Xbox) and Max Payne (demo on PC, but a cheat code to get all the guns). The firearms in Max Payne are better in my opinion, and the bullet-time control is much more useful/intuitive than in Dead to Rights.

Kharn

AK103K
December 28, 2002, 09:26 AM
Medal of Honor Frontline for PS2 is a great game. Depending on if you play it as a game or a simulator is up to you. Someone took a lot of time to figure out how what weapon works and the results of what round does what when a hit is made. Try playing it for real using just one gun(instead of switching as needed), you get a whole new perspective on things. :) Its a great game.

yesterdaysyouth
December 28, 2002, 10:19 AM
after reading this thread when it first started i ran out and rented dead to rights...

needless to say i'll be going out today to buy dead to rights....

Andrew Wyatt
December 28, 2002, 09:14 PM
I'm pretty nonplussed by the current crop of FPSen out there.

they're all pretty uncreative, and there are way more desert eagles, pistol grip only shotguns, M11s, and chromed berettas than i care for.


I defy you to find a non WWII FPS without any of those in it.

Capital Punishment
December 28, 2002, 09:50 PM
Yes, red storm makes very good games. Tom Clancy is a genius.

But you havent LIVED untill you have played the Metal Gear series for playstation/playstation 2. Seriously.

MAKOwner
December 28, 2002, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by Andrew wyatt
I'm pretty nonplussed by the current crop of FPSen out there.

they're all pretty uncreative, and there are way more desert eagles, pistol grip only shotguns, M11s, and chromed berettas than i care for.


I defy you to find a non WWII FPS without any of those in it.

Operation Flashpoint for the PC. One of the best FPS games out there. You should try the Resistance add-on for OpFlash. Very cool, you are in a resistance to a Commie invasion and fight accordingly. Raiding Commie stuff, stealing weapons/equipment, sabotage, ambushes, oh my it has it all... And all with no desert eagles, pistol grip shotties, or chrome berettas... :)

I agree 100%. Splinter Cell is awesome.

But then again, all of Tom Clancy's "shooters" are awesome. Haven't played the PC Demo yet, what are the controls like?

I like the controls alot personally, I was having trouble with the Xbox stuff since I just cannot seem to get the hang of playing these types of games without the mouse and keyboard (it was a friends Xbox, I don't have one). Like any PC game you can setup all the buttons on the keyboard however you like, mouse moves your view, etc. Was working great for me, but maybe I'm missing something the Xbox control scheme does better?

George Hill
December 29, 2002, 12:06 AM
"I defy you to find a non WWII FPS without any of those in it."


GHOST RECON.

OPERATION FLASHPOINT.

nsf003
December 29, 2002, 12:07 AM
Operation Flashpoint for the PC. One of the best FPS games out there. You should try the Resistance add-on for OpFlash. Very cool, you are in a resistance to a Commie invasion and fight accordingly. Raiding Commie stuff, stealing weapons/equipment, sabotage, ambushes, oh my it has it all... And all with no desert eagles, pistol grip shotties, or chrome berettas...

My prayers have been answered! I have been looking for a resistance game forever. Deus Ex, with the NSF(where I got my name) has kept me busy for too long.

nsf

MAKOwner
December 29, 2002, 03:32 AM
Yep, it's sweet with lots of cool guns. I enjoyed the FAL in Resistance alot. One of the only games I know of where you can get a FAL. I still ended up using the AK74 most of the time though... It should be noted this is not the US that is invaded by commies in Resistance, but some island country that your character lives in. Still awesome though.

The base OpFlash game is you playing in a American "peace keepers" role in some island nation, where the commies invade. Not bad. The Red Hammer expansion you take the role of the Commies in I believe the same conflict as the first. Good too. In Resistance you are also on a Island nation as a citizen, as citizens rise up to fight the invaders. Not the same island nation from the other two games I don't think, could be mistaken. All are tons of fun but Resistance was my favorite. There may be a edition of Operation Flashpoint you can buy that has all the expansions included, not sure. You can also drive tanks and occasionally a chopper and such in the game. Resistance has you stealing and using Commie armor in a couple missions, lots of fun.

You also aim down the iron sights of your weapon (same key as the scope key for scoped rifles, not the same as the defaulted to your right mouse button zoom function...) That is something I love to see in games, iron freakin sights...

Pendragon
December 29, 2002, 05:36 AM
The Xbox is an amazing system - it looks AMAZING now that I have the Hi-Def connection cable connected to the component input on my TV (do this if you can - it is worth the $20 cable for extremely sharp and vivid color)

I got (for Xbox) Unreal Championship and Halo and Serious Sam for Christmas.

Halo is fun because it is amazing in so many ways, but the combat leaves me cold.

I rented BloodRayne and it has a lot of gun play and slow motion stuff - if you like Vampire type stuff (the heroine is half human, half vamp) it is pretty cool. You get to kill lots and lots of Nazis which is a good thing. I realized they had to make the baddies be Nazis because it is still PC to play a vamp that eats Nazis...

No One Lives For Ever (the first one) for the PC is amusing and someone of a spoof of 60s spy films, but the gun play is actually pretty realistic. Your accuracy is affected by your movement - when you run, your crosshairs open up and precision shooting is not possible.

Phyphor
December 30, 2002, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by Andrew wyatt
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I said "enough!" when they put the DE in the expansion for Rainbow Six.

Gawd, ENOUGH with the DE, folks. Who'd really want that for a service weapon, anyway?

Phyphor
December 30, 2002, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by rifleman
I always thought they yanked the charging handle back in that game... does my memory fail me?

Nope. It's always been the forward assist.

Kevlarman
December 30, 2002, 06:14 PM
Lloyd's Weapons mod for Urban Ops has a .454 Casull. How'd you like that for a service weapon? :D

Phyphor
December 30, 2002, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by Kevlarman
Lloyd's Weapons mod for Urban Ops has a .454 Casull. How'd you like that for a service weapon? :D

Isn't that a revolver? I'd trust that a helluva lot more than a DE, (I've heard that DE's aren't quite as reliable IRL as they'd need to be to be considered, )
Plus, just think of the look on the BG's face when you cock THAT sucker. If you didn't shoot him, he'd have to change his shorts.

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