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Ed
December 27, 2002, 03:13 PM
Hi,
Just wondering, I have recently finished building my first Flintlock LR and wondered how many others on here shoot or build flintlocks? I've started on my second and would like to know some folks who I can "come to for help " when I am faced with "Oportunitys " in the process.

Thanks

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Mike Weber
December 27, 2002, 03:24 PM
Howdy Ed:
I'm in the process of building an early period Jaeger Rifle in 54 Cal. This one will be my third flint gun. My others were a CVA Kentucky Rifle in .45 Cal and a William Kennedy Built Squirrel gun in .32 Cal. Flinters are finicky but they are fun shooters.

AndABeer
December 27, 2002, 03:41 PM
I've got a Traditions Pensylvania .50 that I enjoy shooting very much. When I hit the lottery or have some other windfall I plan on buying a Baker reproduction. Big "Sharp's Rifles" books fan.

Backwoods
December 27, 2002, 05:02 PM
I took 4 of my last five deer with a flintlock(the fifth was a 45 revolver) and I have no complaints. I'm not the Buckskinner type but I do appreciate the effort needed to effectively hunt with a flinter.

Don in Ohio

Mike Weber
December 27, 2002, 05:05 PM
Within the last couple of months two of my friends got brand new traditions Pennsylvania rifles. Very pretty rifles and good shooters too. I'm also a fan of the series Sharpe's Rifles and I want one of those Baker rifles too. I have a link somewhere I'll have to dig it up about an outfit in Canada that is selling Baker reproductions for I believe somewhere in the $400.00 price range. This is the same company that made the Bakers for the miniseries Sharpe's Rifles. The only catch with these rifles is that they do not have the Vent hole drilled. Therefore they are classified as non guns. I'll have to find that link and post it here.

AndABeer
December 27, 2002, 05:36 PM
whatchutalkinbout
http://www.militaryheritage.com/baker.htm

mo better but mo money
http://www.therifleshoppe.com/

ezoeni
December 27, 2002, 06:19 PM
Im taking mine out this weekend I think. I love shooting that rifle. Its a TC 50cal. Its so much fun just loading it and then all the smoke and hitting your target.

How far do you guys practice at 75, 100 yards? More?

I've been thinking that Ill be collecting these types of firearms more and more. I have my eye on a few items. Just need the cash

I have thought of hunting with it although most of the people I hunt with dont own BP's. - Bummer

4v50 Gary
December 27, 2002, 06:38 PM
Count me in. I've a second one started and don't have time right now (too much reading assignments). BTW, I prefer to shoot at 75 yards, but have to settle for 50 right now.

ezoeni
December 27, 2002, 07:54 PM
I just broke down and brought one of these. I saw one at a show awhile back and wanted to get one.

http://www.thegunworks.com/Photos/ACFDA1.jpg

I figure its a new years present to myself. I probably shouldnt have spent the money but thats what I say about everything I buy.

Now a question... since this my first pistol. What is a load for this 50 cal using FFF.

thisaway
December 27, 2002, 08:56 PM
A .45-cal. rifle by Navy Arms...I think it's called a "Kentucky rifle" but I'm not sure, as I bought it used. Fun, accurate little shooter.

A .50-cal. Hatfield rifle, with nice curly maple stock. I had a friend darken the brass fittings with acid and then do some scrollwork and sculpting...looks great! It's fun to shoot, but not as accurate as I'd like...adequate for deer hunting though.

And finally, a "Short Land" pattern Brown Bess musket by Pedersoli in .75-cal! This is my "most fun" flinter! Surprisingly, it shoots best with buck-and-ball loads, as opposed to ball only. Can't wait to try it on a deer at 50 yards or so!

As you can tell, no doubt, I have a bunch of charcoal-burners! ;)

thisaway
December 27, 2002, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by ezoeni
I just broke down and brought one of these. I saw one at a show awhile back and wanted to get one.

http://www.thegunworks.com/Photos/ACFDA1.jpg

I figure its a new years present to myself. I probably shouldnt have spent the money but thats what I say about everything I buy.

Now a question... since this my first pistol. What is a load for this 50 cal using FFF.

EZ,
I would shoot 30 or 40 grains myself, as these will be accurate and easy-to-shoot at close range. The maximum load is 60 grains for a .50-cal handgun, IIRC.

BTW, cool-lookin' horse pistol! :cool:

ezoeni
December 27, 2002, 11:06 PM
.75-cal!

dude! I actually never heard of a 75 cal before. Can you get molds for this. I havent seen or even bothered to ask anyone on this size. Or is it a strickly a splater gun.

Time to look on the net, I really like the net!

thisaway
December 27, 2002, 11:10 PM
Yes, you can get molds for it...but right off hand the only company I can think of is Rapine. Lee might, but I'm not sure.

The musket cost me $665 shipped to my home from Cabela's 2 or 3 years ago.

ezoeni
December 28, 2002, 12:05 AM
just to let you know... Im stealing your 2nd signature

Mike Irwin
December 30, 2002, 02:46 PM
I built a TC Renegade in .50 flint many years ago.

What a TON of fun that thing has been.

ayeaye
January 1, 2003, 08:07 AM
TC Renegade .54cal that was my dads'.
Using it now for PA's late flintlock deer season.
It really likes 360gr maxi's w/ 110 grs of 2F.

BigG
January 1, 2003, 11:23 AM
Carcoal be big stinky fun! :p

sebago
January 1, 2003, 10:11 PM
Rocklocks are the most fun! I joined the .75 club years ago with my Queen Anne period Doglock Trade Musket made by Kit Ravenshear. One of the few guns I'd never part with. It keeps me unique in my neighborhood!

thisaway
January 2, 2003, 12:40 AM
Sebago,
Can you post pics? :scrutiny:

sebago
January 2, 2003, 05:25 PM
Wish I could Thisaway but I'm technologically challenged :( .

cracked butt
January 5, 2003, 09:33 AM
I shoot a Lyman GPR flintlock that I built from a kit about a year ago. Its great fun.

yorec
January 6, 2003, 02:04 AM
I shoot a Cabelas Hawken repo in .58 that I built a couple years ago - way fun.

Now I need to hunt with it...

panzerfuehrer
January 8, 2003, 07:15 PM
I have a .75 cal. 2d Model Brown Bess (repro). She hurls a 545 grain ball, and just about anything smaller you care to dump down the bore. Works great with buckshot. It's mostly a noisemaker these days, but I used to take it to the blackpowder meets - they loved me on the team shoots!

Also have unidentified Tower-pattern horse pistol in .69 cal. It is almost exclusively a noisemaker.

Stoves
February 2, 2006, 05:12 PM
How do you get into building and shooting flintlocks??

Hobie
February 2, 2006, 06:31 PM
I do...

http://users.adelphia.net/~parslowb/images/BrownBessCarbine3.JPG

One can get a lot of info from makers at American Longrifles (http://www.americanlongrifles.com/index.htm).

Manyirons
February 2, 2006, 07:06 PM
Yep! Keep a Queen Anne smoothbore pistol, .50, about to become a rifled .54 to match the .54 jaeger rifle.

Only two sparkies so far, great fun!

rocklocker2
August 3, 2006, 05:22 PM
i shoot in a league and we shoot metal targets one week and paper the next.paper at 25 ,50 ,an 100 yds.metal at 50 ,75 ,an 100.i sight in at 100 and reduce powder charge for closer targets instead of moving sights.works on both the tc flinter and my pedersoli long rifle

Tinker2
August 3, 2006, 05:54 PM
Sights? You use sights? That doesn’t seem right.



Tinker2

frosty
August 3, 2006, 06:44 PM
ED, I am currently building a 75 caliber Germanic short rifle...I am making the barrel, and it is being rifled by Bigiron Barrel Works. Early period guns are my specialty, with sliding wooden patchboxes. I will post pictures throughout it's construction.:evil:

Loyalist Dave
August 8, 2006, 12:25 AM
I have a custom .54 longrifle with a Colerain swamped barrel, and a Large Siler lock. Shoots from the bench a 2" group at 100 yards using a .530 ball, and 70 gr of 3Fg. I use 3Fg to both load and prime.

I have also owned a .50 cal Blue Ridge Hunter from Cabela's. It's made by Pedersoli, and is the same model that was marketed under the Hatfield brand name just prior to that company ending business.

I have also owned a semi-custom Jaeger in .54 made by Tennesee Valley Muzzleloading.

I highly recommend both the BRH and the TVM.

LD

1911 guy
August 8, 2006, 08:44 AM
I use a .36 caliber "flinchlock" for squirrels. Great fun, usually draws a crowd at the range when everybody else has their hi-tech stuff out. I shoot lots of "modern" stuff, but there's just something about a smokepole. Got a .50 for deer, but it's a caplock.

foghornl
August 8, 2006, 11:22 AM
Have a Traditions brand .50 Flinty, the Trade Rifle.

Soooo much fun to shoot, but that extra flame around the frizzen {priming pan...is that the right name??} can be distracting at first, untill you get used to it.

rocklocker2
August 8, 2006, 09:23 PM
try using less priming powder in the pan.

1911 guy
August 9, 2006, 08:47 AM
Copy what Rocklocker2 said. Use less powder than you think you need and keep it away from the flash hole. If powder is up against the hole, it has to burn (albeit quickly) down to the hole to ignite. Left away from the hole, it's near instant ignition of your propellant charge.

rocklocker2
September 12, 2006, 10:11 AM
hey guys i just put a new RPL lock from L&R on my TC flinter ,what a difference.that thing is fast right out of the box.dont look like it will need any tuning.playing with the idea of converting the pedersoli Kentucky .long to flint next.anybody ever done this?

karlsgunbunker
September 12, 2006, 09:04 PM
My first gun was a .45 Kentucky long rifle built from a spanish kit.
I used to be a fair shot with it but i haven't fired it for years.

It has an odd lock for a rifle it uses the 1/2" pistol flints. once I got it tuned and worked out the kinks it was relatively accurate (user error mostly) and very reliable. with the correct powder it almost always goes boom. (No Pyrodex).

I still have it 20yrs after I bought it. Never could quite part with it.

Ed/Pa
September 16, 2006, 12:04 PM
As for Black powder, I shoot nothing but Flintlock long rifles. I have over the years tried caplocks in all forms and found them to be not even close to the pleasure derived from the spark throwers. Have built a few BP guns as well as doing some relief and incise carvings. I'd also like to mention that I have one for sale at the moment ( a .40 cal longrifle) over on the buy sell trade board.

As for your building and shooting of Flintlocks......more power to ya..it's tons of fun......good luck and keep yer powder dry!

.38 Special
September 18, 2006, 12:21 AM
I love the flintlocks, sometimes going several years shooting nothing but. IMO, Pedersoli makes some really great guns for the money. Also IMO, there's a lot of unadulterated BS that has to be waded through prior to starting in the game. Gunwriter Ross Seyfried spent a lot of time with these guns and put together what I believe to be the single best article existent, where flinters are concerned.

http://www.98.net/ibha/flint1.htm

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