Hodgdon Triple 7


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bernie
February 4, 2003, 03:01 PM
I just bought a pound of this stuff to try and wanted to see if any of you have used this stuff. What are it's advantages other than supposed ease of cleaning? Also, I use a .50 caliber Remington 700ML that allows for 120 grains of Pyrodex, can I stay with the 120 or do I need to back off? Thanks

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CTgunteacher
February 4, 2003, 03:48 PM
Bernie,

I work for a muzzleloader company, and we recently got the following communication from Hodgdon:

"Triple Seven is about 15% more energetic than Pyrodex or black powder. Because of this a 130 grain volumetric charge of Triple Seven will be equal to 150 gr. Pyrodex or black powder. I would not suggest shooting over 130 gr. as the recoil is brutal - nothing takes this much killing."

This was in reference to our 209 guns, which will take a 150 grain charge of Pyrodex or 2F black powder, but this statement seems to go along with Hodgdon's original warnings to reduce charges by 15%. Initially, this warning applied to measuring by weight, but they are now apparently extending it to volumetric charges, as well. I'd certainly heed their warnings and reduce max charge by 15%, and limit my charge to 100 grains in a Remington.

Personally, I've had great results with Triple Seven. It burns cleanly, doesn't stink, is water-soluable and seems very consistent in terms of accuracy and velocity (I've chronographed Triple Seven loads several times). I can hardly wait to get my hands on some of the forthcoming Triple Seven pellets.

Mike

BIGR
February 4, 2003, 11:17 PM
I would assume that the Triple Seven is non-corrosive right? Is it the sulfur in the Pyrodex powders that causes the corrosion?

Sleeping Dog
February 5, 2003, 01:17 PM
BigR,

Don't assume nuthin of the kind. :)

I shoot with triple 7. The gun gets dirty. I clean the gun.

The 777 is supposed to be easier to clean, but cleaning is still necessary. I think "burning cleaner" just means you can shoot more bullets before the fouling starts to impact the shooting.

Regards.

BIGR
February 5, 2003, 10:30 PM
Sleeping Dog,

There is no question that the gun has to be cleaned.I wouldn't even think about neglecting any of my guns after a day at the range or in the woods. I have used pyrodex before but have been using the Clean Shot Powder for the past two years and have had great success with it. It is a breeze to clean the ol muzzleloader after shooting it. If the Triple seven is as easy to use I think I'LL try it out this coming muzzleloader season. I have heard some friends say that they have got some great results out of the Triple Seven.
Have a nice day.

redneck
February 5, 2003, 11:10 PM
Triple seven is supposed to be non corrosive, just like clean shot. Obviously fouling will occur and you'll need to clean it, but from what I've heard and read, the fouling/residue isn't supposed to become acidic as it draws moisture from the air. Not much of an issue with proper gun care, but if you happen to get busy or something its one less thing to worry about.

CTgunteacher
February 6, 2003, 12:18 PM
From the Triple Seven FAQ on Hodgdon's web site:

"Q. Is Triple Seven corrosive?

A. No propellant on the market is completely non-corrosive. Triple Seven does not aggressively attack steel like blackpowder but, as with any firearm, we recommend cleaning as soon as possible after shooting. Triple Seven has proven to be less corrosive to brass than other muzzleloading propellants."

I'd stay on top of the cleaning. Besides, cleaning is much easier with Triple Seven, so there's really no excuse to let the gun stay dirty. You guys would probably be appalled at some of the guns my company gets back -- horribly corroded -- for warranty service due to owner neglect.

Mike

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