Benjamin Rogue .357 PCP pellet rifle


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craftsman
March 25, 2014, 03:09 PM
http://www.crosman.com/croswords/?p=1595 $1.5K Claim is it can take down feral hogs, deer, coyote, etc. Any opinions?

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Sam Cade
March 25, 2014, 05:32 PM
Any opinions?

It is an amazingly fascinating weapon.
Reviews have been mixed and the electronics don't seem to be perfected.


Claim is it can take down feral hogs, deer, coyote, etc.

The numbers put it at the very bottom range of what I would consider acceptable for killing a deer at range close enough to guarantee perfect shot placement.

WestKentucky
March 25, 2014, 09:16 PM
For $1500 you get a gun that is by definition not legal to hunt with in most states because most classify weapons as "muzzleloading firearms greater than 32 caliber and any center fire cartridge" or a similar description. This is not center fire for sure and it's not a muzzleloader. It's neat, but pointless if you can't use it.

Hawk 3/21
March 26, 2014, 10:39 AM
All of these pcp's are outrageously priced for what they do. Considering that you can buy an accurate 308 bolt fr almost half, an extremely accurate one for 1500 or less. Descent semi 308.....etc.

However, with Benjamin already having plenty of vids showing them doing this with their 25cal marauder, the question of weather it can be done is mute, as the 357 rogue produces more power/energy. The real question is do you really want to risk your life getting so close that these are effective. Its not bs when we warn new shooters that the 22lr can kill in specific circumstances. I just wouldn't want to be that close to dangerous game. Then again people base jump. So obviously there is a % of our population that wants desperately to avoid going home. Probably out of religious grounds suicide is not an option, so they go after boar w/pellets, feed sharks, base jump, etc.

craftsman
March 31, 2014, 04:48 PM
The price of ammo alone is one reason to go to Air, and if you've seen the online video on Crosman's website, its just a little louder than normal conversation. That part is amazing.

I agree on the price, and the ban for hunting. I'm not a fan of the electronics (what happens if the battery dies?) either.

As far as the distance shooting, a .357 pellet (brand and model dependent) varies from 67 to 127 grains, and at 1,000 FPS (tuneable) muzzle velocity, that has a good bit of knockdown power. Also, you are not going to be shooting game that is a mile away. Generally speaking, most shots are taken under 200 yards, and this can handle those distances. Additionally, because they are quieter, you can get off more shots if perchance you do miss.

Personally, if I were to drop more than $500 on a rifle of any type, I would be certain I do not miss a clean first shot kill.

I'm guessing you're referring to feral hogs ("dangerous game") - I'm guessing that was in Texas or Louisiana ... 'nuff said! LOL

zdc1775
April 1, 2014, 11:31 AM
I don't know much about the Rogue personally but hunting with air guns is more like archery hunting than firearms. If you keep that in mind and stop comparing them to .308 Win, 30/06, and other modern rifle calibers then they are indeed completely capable of taking deer and hogs within their effective ranges.

Also here is a list of the states that allow the use of airguns for hunting. Make sure you check your local laws before using an airgun for hunting purposes.
Airgun Hunting (http://www.crosman.com/pdf/HuntingRegsChart.pdf)

mdauben
April 1, 2014, 05:05 PM
For $1500 you get a gun that is by definition not legal to hunt with in most states because most classify weapons as "muzzleloading firearms greater than 32 caliber and any center fire cartridge" or a similar description. This is not center fire for sure and it's not a muzzleloader. It's neat, but pointless if you can't use it.
I can't speak for every state, but in AL they allow air guns for hunting at least some game animals. This is the language from the 2013-2014 Hunting Regs:


DEER: Air powered guns, .30 caliber or larger.
BOBCAT, GROUNDHOG, UNPROTECTED WILDLIFE, FOX, COYOTE & FERAL SWINE: Rifles* of any caliber
OTHER GAME BIRDS OR ANIMALS: Rifles using rimfire ammunition or those operated by air.

*other places in the regs specify Center Fire or Rim Fire, this does not which would seem to allow air rifles

Actually, I think the only animals you can't hunt with an air gun in AL are Turkey, Duck/Geese, and Racoon/Possum which all specifically require shotguns, centerfire or rimfire guns.

Pete D.
April 3, 2014, 01:28 PM
Air guns are not legal for hunting in Pennsylvania. Varmint control - yes, but not hunting.
I use a .45 cal PCP....200 grain LSWC at 600 fps or a 143 grain LRB at 700+ fps.
Pete

craftsman
April 8, 2014, 05:53 PM
Hmmmm. I have rabbits and squirrels on my property (fenced in yard) a lot, and last winter had 2 deer walk just along the fenceline at the rear of my property ... "Varmints" ???? I think so!

Hawk 3/21
April 9, 2014, 08:24 AM
Hey Pete, too bad you live so far away. I would like to see/shoot that rig. Sounds like an interesting package

Pete D.
April 9, 2014, 09:59 PM
I would like to see/shoot that rig

Yes... it is fun to shoot. And it is LOUD. Interestingly, it has recoil.
Pete

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