Marylanders, non-shooting get together! Anyone up for a picnic?


April 18, 2004, 05:41 PM
The weather is wonderful today, and we are getting to the time of year that it should be consistently nice (or at least warm). This weather got me to thinking- maybe we should have a MD THR picnic soon.

We could either look into meeting at one of the Patapsco State Park areas (the one on Marriotsville Rd may be nice, the one on Rt. 40 at the Howard/Baltimore County line is also nice and it is convenient). Another possibility is renting a picnic pavillion (or risking that one will be open and don't reserve it) at Centenial Park in Columbia. The boat rentals should start soon, so we could always rent a few canoes if anyone is interested, and fishing (well, sort of) could be part of it if there was any interest as well.

I think that would be a nice way to spend some Sunday afternoon. I figure maybe mid-May since it is already mid-April and it may take some planning (reserving picnic space at the park), though early May might work. Maybe we should set two dates (a primary and a fall-back) in case the date we pick is not available, and since it is an outdoor thing, maybe set a rain-date (maybe a week later).

What do you guys think? What Sundays would be good?

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April 18, 2004, 06:04 PM
Food, Fun, Friends? Talking Guns all day? I'm all for it!

So often we all get together but hardly talk due to the volume of fire (hey a good double entendre). It would be nice to get to know those I shoot with. Spent a little time with gwag and Anapex today, but still didn't really get to talk.

I vote for Centinial Park since it is more central for our southern friends.

Maybe poll for the date?

April 18, 2004, 08:06 PM
Sounds fun! :)

April 18, 2004, 08:51 PM
Sounds like a great time. I'm there!

April 18, 2004, 08:57 PM
Sounds like a great time. I'm there!

Ohen Cepel
April 18, 2004, 09:16 PM
I would love to make it and I'll keep an eye out for the dates!

I travel a lot so I never know what is going to happen to me.

Trying to make it to the "Friends of the NRA" banquet in Frederick in May.
Have to see.

I would love a BBQ or something simple that I could meet some of you and be able to talk toys with.

Take Care,

April 18, 2004, 09:53 PM
Are you guys thinking of making this a family event, or just a THR event? I'd love to bring my family and have the kids meet/play with some other kids.

And if you guys promise not to scare my semi-anti wife with talk of evil black rifles, etc, I might even bring her :neener:

Any of the parks mentioned are great with me.

April 18, 2004, 09:57 PM
Sounds good to me.....I'm bubbling with enthusiasm after the NRA Meeting.....:D

April 18, 2004, 11:24 PM
I'd definitely like to attend!

April 19, 2004, 03:24 AM
Are you guys thinking of making this a family event, or just a THR event? I'd love to bring my family and have the kids meet/play with some other kids. Making it a family friendly affair sounds good to me, though I won't have family to bring (still single, parents and brother are strongly anti).

If there isn't a strong preference for one of the Patapsco parks then I think Centenial Park it is- does everyone know where that is in Columbia?

Instead of a poll, since this thread is already open, lets do an informal poll on this thread. Post in this space which Sunday you'd prefer, May 16th or 23rd.

I'm happy with either. Unless people have a preference for the later day, my suggestion is to make the 16th the plan (unless someone has the picnic pavilions already reserved) and the 23rd the rain date. Depending upon how many people confirm we may or may not reserve a pavilion- I'm not sure what, if anything, it costs. If we only look like we'll have half a dozen people we can always take a gamble and if the pavilions are taken we can use one of the tables and if they too are taken we could always use blankets on one of the fields. Would anyone have a problem with that, or should I call the Columbia Association to see what to do to reserve a pavilion? If it does cost, should we reserve and then each pay however much, or go for the gamble that one will be open with the possibility of needing to use blankets on one of the fields?

April 19, 2004, 08:33 AM
Family sounds like a good idea, I know my kids love to get out and play.

April 19, 2004, 08:35 AM
What does everyone think of Memorial Day weekend? Maybe Saturday? Just a thought?

April 19, 2004, 09:53 AM
May 16th is best for us. We definetly can't come if its on the 23rd since I am playing hostess for my sister's bridal shower that weekend. Memorial Day weekend is also fine with us but it may be more crowded then and some people may have other plans then already.

April 19, 2004, 05:24 PM
What does everyone think of Memorial Day weekend? Maybe Saturday? Just a thought? If Memorial Day means more people can go (possible) then I'd be ok with it. However, as Girlwithagun mentioned it will be more crowded, and it is likely that all the pavilions are already reserved. Also, people tend to make family and out of town plans on that weekend so I'm not sure if it would actually mean more people can make it.

If more people can make it on Sat then making it Sat would be ok. The only thing is that if it is Sat I'd prefer someone else do the legwork (looking into reserving a pavilion) because I'd prefer not to do the work to set something up that I can't go to (plus, it is better if I don't organize a shabbos event in case a non-observant Jew who doesn't mind breaking shabbos goes- I'd rather not be responsible for someone else breaking shabbos). If it is on Sat I'd be sorry to miss it, but my religious requirements come first (our "restrictions" on shabbos are greater than Xtian sabbath requirements- it isn't just that we go to synagogue, we can't drive or even handle our car keys for just one thing that would keep me from going).

April 20, 2004, 09:02 AM
To clarify the Saturday remark earlier, I meant the Saturday during Memorial day weekend. I know a lot of folks travel that weekend also, so I was trying to set a date far enough out that people could plan, but I wasn't very clear :uhoh: Which is a common occurance for me :p

Anyway, before I start to ramble, May 16th isn't going to be good for me as it is my on-call weekend (but that is one vote) if it is good for the majority then I can maybe make arrangements to get a few on call hours covered.

As for preference of which weekend day I don't really have one. Sat or Sun is good for me.

April 21, 2004, 12:24 AM
OK, so far one can't do the 16th, and one can't do the 23rd. Hmm, I could look into Memorial Day if enough people will be in town, but I'm pretty sure it is likely to be too late already to get picnic space reserved- it would probably mean competing with others for picnic blanket space on one of the fields. If Memorial Day is already booked, what does the first weekend of June look like?

OK, guys, here are the voting options:
-Sun, May 16th
-Sun May 23rd
-Memorial Day (either on Memorial Day and we can try to do something to commemorate vets together, or on that Sunday), with the caveat that there is a good chance we won't be able to find the space.
-The first Sunday in June (the 6th).

Alternate option, if someone else wants to do the planning, and it means more people can make it, we (minus me) can do one of those Saturdays.

Please post here which works for you best, and worse, and we can try to find the day that would allow the largest number of us as possible to attend.

April 21, 2004, 07:27 AM
June 6th should be good for me.

April 21, 2004, 07:56 AM
June 6th will work for me too.

April 21, 2004, 07:58 AM
Hey....maybe somebody can get ahold of Ken Blanchard. He was working on some ideas for getting a bunch of gunners together to do non-shooting activities. This is sounding exactly like what he was trying to do.

April 21, 2004, 09:16 AM
June 6th is good.

April 21, 2004, 08:35 PM
June 6th is good here.

April 21, 2004, 08:54 PM
Sounds good to me! D-day....

April 22, 2004, 01:38 AM
OK, so everyone who has posted so far about it can do the 6th so lets make it official:

MD THR Picnic at Columbia MD's Centenial Park on Sunday, June 6th

I'll call CA tomorrow if I can to see about reserving space and then I'll post back if there is a fee to see if we want to pay it or take our chances. If there is no reservation for them the pavilions are first come first served, but if they are reserved you need to give them up when those with the reservations show. So if there is a charge we can gamble that no one will reserve them all, and then if needed move to one of the picnic tables if one is available or even to picnic blankets on one of the fields.

Now we just need to talk times. Since it is a picnic should we make it noon, or would something like 11:30, 12:30, 1pm or whatever be best? We could also make it a dinner picnic since daylight tends to go late that time of year (maybe around 3:30 or 4pm and start with games and just "hanging out" and start on the food a little later?). I'd be happy with either a lunch or dinner picnic, and meeting later would allow those of you who are churchgoers to go to church and not have any trouble. Probably 1pm for lunch or a ~4pm dinner picnic might be best so you guys can go to your churches if you want.

I guess we also need to discuss food. Should it be a bring what you eat event, or do we want to share? If we share, I guess since I keep kosher mine will be the most complicated so I'll see about picking up a disposable grill and I can bring the dogs and burgers (no cheeseburgers of course though since both my food and my cook surface needs to stay kosher and mixing dairy and meat is a big no-no). We can also do a bit of both: bring what you want to eat (that way we don't need to worry if someone doesn't show up, or if people show up unexpectedly) but a couple of us can bring grills and a few pounds of ground beef and hotdogs and do that communally.

April 23, 2004, 11:13 PM
We will try our best to make it. It will depend on whether Cslinger is still employed at his current job or has another one with more normalized hours. Please, keep your fingers crossed for him for any interviews. We should hopefully know more in the upcoming weeks.

If we come up, I will make some Russian salad which is like a really really really loaded potato salad (about 10-15 ingredients). Everyone always likes it.

And if you guys promise not to scare my semi-anti wife with talk of evil black rifles, etc, I might even bring her

You never know, maybe when she is exposed to normal gun owners (Cslinger and myself, etc), she will reconsider her outlook on the subject. Oh, I forgot, she knows Cslinger. Never mind.

Really hope to see you guys there. Was great to meet some of you last time we were home.

Gwag... I love it.


May 6, 2004, 03:32 PM
Just a quick note of praise to you guys for getting this going.

Life is too short not to appreciate the people that believe in the same things you do and actually see and talk to them. Depending on when I get out of church, (I am a associate minister) I'll try to find you. Please save me a hotdog! FYI: I have a cruise I am working on next year (Nov 2005) I posted it in here somewhere :scrutiny Give it a look will ya. See you soon.


Ohen Cepel
May 10, 2004, 03:22 PM
Would love to make it.
However, will be out of town.

Have a good time!!

Ohen Cepel
May 10, 2004, 03:22 PM
Would love to make it.
However, will be out of town.

Have a good time!!

May 13, 2004, 01:48 PM
Centenial Park? I may be able to make it after church

May 13, 2004, 03:23 PM
OK, I am still waiting for them to get back to me to see for sure how much it will cost me to rent the pavillion. Depending upon the cost I might just eat it (though I'd be happy if others shared the load). If it is more than I'm willing to risk eating (if no one else contributes) I'll post here to see if someone else wants to take the risk of eating it or if we should simply not reserve one and then if there is one available we can have it and if not we can use picnic tables (if they aren't full) or picnic blankets.

Anyway, here is a link to their website ( with some information about the park as well as giving an idea as to directions (starting with Rt. 29- go to Rt. 29 towards Columbia then when you get to 108 follow their directions) and park layout. To get to Rt. 29 from Baltimore take the Beltway (Rt. 695) to Rt. 70 West, take 70 to Rt. 29 South (it is a left exit). To get to Rt. 29 from DC take the Beltway (Rt. 495) to Rt. 29 North.

May 13, 2004, 05:17 PM
I'm willing to kick in $10 for the rental...if a few other people do that, we'll be covered easily.

I saw Cliff at On Target last week and mentioned it to him (BTW, a BG would NEVER want to be on the receiving end of his pistol - he's quite the marksman):D

May 13, 2004, 08:05 PM
Who's going to buy the nametags? :D

May 13, 2004, 11:03 PM
If someone wants to collect everyone's handles and "real" names and put it together in a list.....I'll take care of the name tags.

May 14, 2004, 02:46 PM
OK, they finally returned my message.

Unfortunately, there are no pavilions available. Not only at Centenial but at all the Howard County parks all the pavillions are reserved for Sun, June 6th. I guess they must have gone to someone who was lucky enough to call at a time when the woman who does the rentals was at her desk (she is rarely there even at the times her voice mail says she will be), unless they called 3-4 months ago (also possible).

This gives us a few options:
1) We can go on that day to Centennial Park anyway and simply hope we can get a picnic table and use picnic blankets. If someone shows up about an hour early it might make it easier to get a table to put the food on and we can simply bring folding chairs and blankets.

2) We can change the day to the first Sunday they have available (whatever it may be). I'm sure July 4th is already taken, but if we can get a pavilion the week before or the week after the 4th we can sort of make it an Independence Day thing which would be fitting. Then, since June 6th is already on all our calendars as a THR thing, maybe it could be the next THR shoot.

3) We can look into doing it at a different park. Maybe one of the Patapsco State Park areas will be available.

4) They did have a large pavilion available at Cedar Lane Park (about another mile or two down Rt 108) on Sat, June 5th. I wouldn't be able to go then, and someone else would have to organize it and reserve the pavilion since that is the sabbath, but if everyone wanted to keep it the same weekend that is an option. I have no idea what it will cost (she didn't include that on the message- she called when I wasn't near my phone).

My preference is the first simply because we already announced it will be on June 6th and it is better not to confuse people. There may be people who haven't posted here that planned to go so we woudn't know to warn them, and they might not check and see the change. If someone gets there early we should be able to find an open picnic table and if we all knew to bring folding chairs we should be reasonably comfortable (especially if someone has a camping screen room or a portable canopy they can bring for people who need to temporarily get out of the sun- even if that isn't allowed there are shady areas and the boat docks have enclosed areas).

My second choice is either choice 2 or 3. Either moving the day or location will confuse some people, we may lose some who planned on going, and some may still end up showing up at Centennial Park on the 6th. However, either idea could give us the pavilion which would give us plenty of room and some more comfort.

The choice I don't like so much, but I put it out there because it is an option, is the last one. I'd like to be there and I can't on any Sat. However, I figured it is an option, and if it is the one that works best for everyone else I don't want to get in the way of it so I presented the option.


I just thought of another option. We might lose the park imenities (playgrounds and/or boat rentals, and no lake or river) but...

Does anyone have a large backyard they'd like to "donate" for the picnic?

Again though, that poses the same problems as moving to another park. We would need to be sure everyone knows about the change since June 6th at Centennial has been posted for some time now. This idea (if anyone would like to host it) would be tied with the middle two options as my second choice. It would lose the charm of a park, but add the charm of being more warm and family-like.

May 19, 2004, 04:16 AM
Hey guys, I've had something unexpected come up (a good thing) and I'm going to be in CA just before the picnic. I've bought my ticket so that I will be taking the red eye back so I can get home for the picnic. However, I may be late so I won't be able to be the one to get there early to be sure we get a table and if we do a pot luck I probably should be doing the main course (hot dogs and burgers) after all. So it would be a good thing if someone would volunter to get there about 30min to 1hr early to be sure we get a table. Thanks.

May 19, 2004, 07:23 AM
No problem, I'll be there early.

My kids will be restless anyway, so the sooner I get there, the sonner they can expend their energy......

I think most of the people going know me, so it shouldn't be a problem finding me.

Maybe I'll make a big red banner that says, "Evil Gun Owners First Annual Slaughter Babies at the Park Picnic" or something; that should keep the soccer mom crowd away and you'll certainly be able to find me quickly.


May 19, 2004, 08:15 AM
Maybe I'll make a big red banner that says, "Evil Gun Owners First Annual Slaughter Babies at the Park Picnic" or something; that should keep the soccer mom crowd away and you'll certainly be able to find me quickly

Heh, heh....once you start bean the baked beans and hot dogs, they'll al stay away anyhow:neener:

May 19, 2004, 01:56 PM
Hello folks.

I think I will come too. I Moderate the Maryland Hometown forum over at so I went and posted about it there
You can see it at this link:

We are having one June 5th and we will also have a pistol shoot as well Pelase post in the below thread if you would like to come!

Dave McCracken
May 19, 2004, 04:05 PM
It's a busy day,but I'll try to stop on by. It's close. What time and pavilion?

May 19, 2004, 04:34 PM
Hey Ric, glad you'll make it. Let Ron and some of the other guys know too just in case they don't see the thread over at ar15.

May 19, 2004, 05:12 PM
We'll probably try to make it over at least for a little bit. I have to catch a flight out to CA that day now so we'll see how busy I am.

May 19, 2004, 05:18 PM
Hey Ric, glad you'll make it. Let Ron and some of the other guys know too just in case they don't see the thread over at ar15.

Yeah it would be great to meet some of the other members here and all that good stuff.

So have we gotten a time and location for this brew-haha yet ? :)

What about a park located closer to Baltimore or BWI maybe?

Either way I'll still try my damndest to make it. It its early in the afternoon I may be a little late. I will be driving down from York PA that Sunday.

May 19, 2004, 08:43 PM
June 6th, 1pm (or a bit earlier if you wish; I'll be there between 12:15 and 12:30).

Centenial Park is in Howard County; Chaim posted a link to their website just a few posts back - you can get directions from that. I think we're all gonna' bring our own food I guess - looks like it'll be too hard to coordinate who will bring what. But feel free to bring a favorite dish to share with the group; I'm kinda' hoping Chaim will make some seriously original Kosher food. My wife will probably make some brownies for the group. I'll bring a cooler with ice and some drinks, but if one or two others did the same we could probably have the beverages covered.

May 19, 2004, 08:56 PM
Oh BTW, the park is only 10 to 15 minutes away from BWI.:D

May 23, 2004, 06:48 PM
I hope to make it though that is the day I see the GF off to Alabama to start her job; I follow this fall. :(

Might be good to meet some friends!

Anyone know if beer is allowed at Centennial Park? I used to play softball there in the mid 1990s and seem to recall its a no-no.

I also recall its pretty big, can anyone with some artistic talent maybe make a sign?

Take care!

June 1, 2004, 09:03 AM
Is this still on?????

June 1, 2004, 03:17 PM
Yup, it is still on.

I was unable to get a pavillion so look for us at or near one of the picnic tables. Be sure to bring a folding chair or two if you have them if you don't want to sit on the ground or stand the whole time. It will be at 1pm, but it would be helpful if someone gets there early (Spot77 has already voluntered, but one or two more to keep him company would be nice) to wait for a table to be sure we get one. Also, those who plan to be early may want to consider a simple sign on poster board or something to ID us (I'll reimburse you for the posterboard if you'd like).

Since we didn't get a pavillion it looks like it will be bring your own food. If you'd like to bring something you like to make in volume for everyone, or just enough for you, either is fine. The main thing is for everyone to be there.

Misc. questions:
-Does anyone have a frisbee they could bring? Mine is in pretty bad condition.
-Does anyone have one of those portable horseshoe sets?

Consider bringing alone some picnic type games you may have that you think the group might enjoy. Keep in mind that there will probably be children there in your selections.

I'll be out of town until a couple hours before the picnic so I won't be posting or able to check. You will probably all want to check the weather just before the picnic. If the reports get ugly towards the end of the week, one or two of you may want to think about calling for a rain date. If it rains that day I guess we'll just have to come up with a rain date.

Barring unforseen circumstances the picnic will be in the main area of Centennial Park (use the main entrance off 108, not one of the side entrances) starting at 1pm. Look for a group of people hopefully with a THR and/or TFL sign. If not, Spot77 and his brother Norton are pretty tall, it would be hard to miss them. Also, I'll be wearing my yarmulke as usual, and while there may be other Orthodox Jews there, most likely I'll be the only one in a group of people where I am the only one wearing a yarmulke.

June 1, 2004, 06:59 PM
Well I won't be able to make it after all, I have an 11 or 12 flight out so I'm kinda short on time after I wake up. Yeah I wake up late on Sundays :P

June 1, 2004, 08:13 PM
Are there grills up there for us to use? If not, I can throw the gas grill in the back of the truck and we can cook on that.....

June 1, 2004, 08:23 PM
Looking forward to it.

I'll try to hae a plain white sign on a small pole that simply says, "THR"

BTW, lemme' see if this picture comes through or not. It's a pic of our friend and fellow THR member Cliff being interviewed by the local media back in March at one of the Assault Weapons Ban hearings in Annapolis....

Dave McCracken
June 3, 2004, 05:07 AM
I'll be there at some point, look for a big guy with a blue cap saying MD Dept of Correction....

June 5, 2004, 02:16 PM
Well its pretty rainy today (Saturday) so I hope things will clear up for tomorrow. Dave will already be on the plane by then but the boys and I may stop by on the way to PA. It might be nice to let them run around a bit before the drive. We are going to play it by ear in the morning.

June 6, 2004, 11:45 AM
Weather seems fair enough.

See you all there soon.

June 6, 2004, 12:40 PM
Just got home from California about an hour ago. I'll be leaving soon. I'll just have to decide if I'm running up to Baltimore first to pick up some kosher food so I have something to eat but then be about an hour late, or if I'll just run over so I'll be there on time and just hang out with everyone for a while. Either way I'll see you all soon.

June 6, 2004, 01:05 PM
You all have a good time. i sure wish i could be there!

June 6, 2004, 06:45 PM
Yup, it was fun. Nice to meet some new people - one45auto, molon labe.....

The weather was decent too.

Sorry I didn't get to chat too much; my kids were demanding more attention than usual:o

Norton - you left before I could give you the boresighter. guess we'll have to wait for Thursday now...

June 6, 2004, 07:01 PM
I thought about the boresiter about the time that we got on to Rt 100:banghead:

Anyway, good times had by one and was a pleasure to get to meet some new folks and to finally get a chance to have a real conversation with those we've met in the past. It's sort of hard to talk much with ear phones on and gunfire all around when we have the THR shoots.

With summer coming up, I sense an opportunity for some more get togethers.....

For anyone interested, Spot77 and I will be at Hap Baker range Thursday, June 10 at 0930....

June 6, 2004, 07:23 PM
Very relaxing and enjoyable afternoon. Enjoyed meeting everyone.

June 6, 2004, 09:15 PM
An enjoyable afternoon indeed, and as others have said it was great to finally meet some of our fellow THR members like chaim, Spot77, Norton, Dave McCracken, molonlabe, etc.. I'm definitely looking forward to future get-togethers and next time around I'll definitely remember my lawn chair. (LOL) Thanks for the loan, Spot. :)

Dave McCracken
June 8, 2004, 07:09 AM
It was nice, thanks for the invite. Next time, I'll bring food and stay longer....

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