.45 long Colt ammo


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Alan Fud
December 28, 2002, 01:01 AM
Since I don't reload, where (as in mail order) can I get some serious power (as in "alligator stopping" ... not cowboy loads) .45 long Colt ammo?

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Tamara
December 28, 2002, 01:04 AM
http://www.cor-bon.com/traditional45.html

blades67
December 28, 2002, 01:16 AM
You could also ask WESHOOT2 to load you some .45 Colt to your preference.

Traveler
December 28, 2002, 02:25 AM
Call John at Pro-Load.

pberzk
December 28, 2002, 07:26 AM
nuther place.....

http://www.buffalobore.com

thisaway
December 28, 2002, 10:35 AM
I'll second Tamara's suggestion of CorBon. I tried some of their ".45 Colt +P" 265-gr. JHP stuff and they are real boomers in a Ruger Bisley, or even in my Rossi carbine, for that matter. Don't try these in an SAA!

CorBon offers these with a 300-gr. JHP too, but I haven't tried them yet.

Steve Smith
December 28, 2002, 11:49 AM
Last time I loooked, Buffalobore made Cor-Bon look like cowboy loads. Make sure you're usin' a Ruger or a Freedom Arms!


Load your own!

TallPine
December 28, 2002, 11:59 AM
Load your own!

Second the motion.

The 45 "long" colt is an easy round to handload IMO because it is so big and easy to handle with even the clumsiest fingers (like mine).

Since it is a rimmed revolver and not a "rimless" semi-auto round, you can roll crimp it and not worry about headspacing.

You can get started with Lee loading tools for less than $100 (that's about four boxes of shells). Then you can load either light or heavy.

PMC also makes a 45 "magnum" factory load, but it's probably not as not as Corbon or Buffalo Bore.

Nightcrawler
December 28, 2002, 12:24 PM
I've got a box of Cor-Bon self-defense hollowpoints (200gr @ 1100fps) that I'm going to try out.

I dare not shoot Cor-Bon's hunting loads through my 25-5, though. I've heard it will knock the gun out of time.

Strzelec
December 28, 2002, 02:13 PM
I just picked up a couple of boxes of 225gr WIN Silvertips HP (X45CSHP2). If if get a chance this week, I'll go to the range and "process" a box through my 625-7. Will let you know the results.

Nightcrawler
December 28, 2002, 02:19 PM
I found the Silvertips to be pretty mild in my 25-5 6". Recoil was pleasant.

Cor-Bons are hotter, though.

Nobody makes the factory load that I want, though. 255grn hollow point @ about 900-950fps. It's with loads like that that .45 Colt really shines for delf defense.

Gila Jorge
December 28, 2002, 05:02 PM
Buffalo Bore (ask for Tim Sundles) or CorBon (ask for Terry Murbach,,,he posts here) both make hot rod rounds for Rugers and Freedom Arms. I would be careful in my Smith's.

J Miller
December 28, 2002, 07:18 PM
Alan,
I would suggest some of the Corbon 300 JSP's or the 325 Lead loads. They are stout, but have less felt recoil in my OM BH than a 240 JHP does in a Super Blackhawk.



Nightcrawler,
Nobody makes the factory load that I want, though. 255grn hollow point @ about 900-950fps. It's with loads like that that .45 Colt really shines for delf defense.

I like the load you mention, and you're right, nobody makes it. They all think we should use supersonic flyweight bullets for S.D.

But, what is a "delf"?;)

Alan Fud
December 28, 2002, 11:59 PM
Thanks everyone.

Nightcrawler
December 29, 2002, 01:52 AM
Defense of the delf is very important. Not man nor woman can live without their delf, you know. If your delf goes, you go with it.

And if you don't know what a delf is...I can't help. ;)

cratz2
December 30, 2002, 05:00 PM
Hate to bring up unreloadable aluminum crap but I bought a bunch of Blazers with the 200 Gr Gold Dots. Kind of light but for the $8.50/50 or so that I paid, they are pretty good. Actually, excellent! I shot most of them up but I still have about 150 rounds left. They felt pretty hot for only being 200 grainers but certainly not in the Buffalo Bore or Garrett class.

J Miller
December 30, 2002, 05:30 PM
cratz2,

Years ago I tried some CCI Blazer .45 Colt with the 200gr JHP that was nicnamed the Flying ashtray because of the huge hollow point.
This ammo was patheticly inaccurate, at least in the guns I tried it in.

Did you try the stuff you bought with the Gold Dot for accuracy?
How did it do, and what did you shoot it out of?

J

bpisler
December 30, 2002, 08:11 PM
In the lastest guns and ammo,the new for 2003 issue they mention that speer is coming out with a 240gr gdhp loaded to 950fps for personal defense.

cratz2
December 30, 2002, 08:12 PM
Shot it out of a 4 3/4" Blackhawk and a Winchester lever rifle. It was perfectly accurate for me. The rifle would group at least 3" at 100 yards which while isn't tack-driving accurate, is good enough for what most people would use a 45 Colt rifle for.

With the revolver, I could keep almost all shots in 6" at 50 yards.

Mike Irwin
December 30, 2002, 08:31 PM
When I picked up my .44 Spl. S&W a couple of months ago I got a box of .44 Spl. Blazers loaded with 200-gr. Gold Dots.

FRIGHTENINGLY accurate.

1 handed off hand at 15 yards I cut a 2 hole group that could be easily covered with a deck of cards.

WESHOOT2
December 31, 2002, 02:19 PM
Recently worked up some (discontinued) 200g "Flying Ashtray" and 250g XTP-HP 45 Colt ammo.
ALL frighteningly accurate.
Cool.

Lotsa good 'steamroller' 45 Colt now available.

(Still contemplating 'optimum' 45 Colt civilian defense load; really liked that 250g XTP, but not sure -yet- how fast it 'should' go.)

J Miller
December 31, 2002, 02:31 PM
WESHOOT2,

I would like a 250gr XTP for a self defence load too. My opinion is that it should move out between 850 and 875 from a 4" revolver barrel. This would give it enough velocity to expand at SD ranges from the shorter barreled guns, and still not have excessive pressures.

I would realy like a source of 250-255gr Keith bullet loads at the same velocity. A factory source so that I could say (if need be) that I didn't load 'em.

J

riddleofsteel
January 1, 2003, 04:30 PM
Unless you are going for extra large game like elk or bigger bears there is really no need to "magnumize" your .45.
I have personally taken about 10 antelope and 1 mule deer with a .45 Colt. My wife has taken around 6 antelope and 5 mule deer with her .45 Colt. She uses a 4 3/4" Seville and the handload is a 260 Keith cast at 900 fps. This load will shoot lengthwise of antelope and mule deer at 100 yards. In my estimation it kills as well as the .270, 30-06 class rifles if the shots are placed properly. If I were hunting heavier game I’d step up the velocity to 1200 fps and in extreme circumstances, (elk, hogs, bear) go to the 310 gr cast slug. This load, 310 at 1200 will go through elk like so much air. These loads can be managed by anyone who is serious about handgunning big game. My wife is 5' 1" and goes about 100 lbs with her gun on. She likes the power the .45 gives her with a minimum of recoil and blast. She has hunted with me for 15 years now and is a very serious handgun shooter. I think the .45 Colt has a lot to do with this as it gives her big bore power without big bore recoil and blast. My sons also shoot the .45 Colt a lot and I had the pleasure to watch my oldest son, age 14 take a nice mule deer buck this year with a 5 1/2" Colt SAA at about 90 yards range. The load, 260 Keith at 900 fps. Its plain, no bells or whistles, but it works every time.
by John Linebaugh


I personally I hunted whitetails here in N.C. with my 7.5 inch Blackhawk in .45 Colt for over a decade using either a 250 grain XTP Hollowpoint or a 255 grain SWC usually traveling at about 900 to 1000 FPS. I can get more velocity without a problem but only at the expense of more blast and recoil. Plus the loads I have mentioned kill like hot lighting at 50 yards or under.

Quantrill
January 4, 2003, 08:53 AM
Alan,
From your entry, you want to stop Alligators. I freely admit not to knowing too much about the thickness of Alligator hide. But knowing what it looks like, I would question the use of hollow point expanding type ammo. Maybe a hard cast solid or a fully jacketed bullet would be more to your type use. I would imagine that a army ball 230gr bullet hot loaded would just about do the trick. Just my .02. Quantrill

tex_n_cal
January 4, 2003, 11:40 PM
This was shot with the Corbon 265 grain hunting load in my Bisley. The flyer was my fault. It's good ammo:)

Matt G
January 5, 2003, 06:04 AM
Hm. I can't find it listed on the website, but BlackHills has made some runs of their good hardcast LSWC load in a warm factory load. I know someone who actually purchased several boxes to qualify and carry with for his Mountain Revolver on duty as an LEO. Call Black Hills.

LAH
January 5, 2003, 12:36 PM
I'd be tempted to have weshoot2 load me some.

Bob Thompson
January 5, 2003, 12:46 PM
After selling my Taurus .454 Casull I bought a nice Ruger .45 Colt Bisley blackhawk and wanting a viable woods load I settled on a handloaded 250 grain hardcast at 1100 F.P.S. Very managable and I feel quite safe for most situations.

LAH
January 5, 2003, 01:07 PM
Mr. Thompson IMHO a well designed 250-270 grain bullet at 1100-1200 fps will do about any heavy work that needs done with a sixgun. I understand there's a place for heavier loads but those places are few and far between.

WESHOOT2
January 5, 2003, 08:55 PM
I believe Dry Creek will be hearing from me shortly.......been :what: those 275g Keiths (sized .454").

LAH
January 5, 2003, 10:10 PM
Ole neighbor to the north, we just come off a run of several thousand 45-275-K bullets and sized 500 for a guy wanting .454. This bullet sells well and with good reason. It's everything the old Lyman 454424 is, just more of it.

JMLV
January 9, 2003, 01:34 PM
You coming up to the Noreaster in april? mayhaps you could bring me 500 of those monsters? (275 keiths). Hope to see you in april
we are having the Noreaster on april 5 & 6 at the usual place(the Wicen place.
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