DFW Group Shoot 05.23.04


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TechBrute
April 25, 2004, 11:41 PM
On May 23rd, there will be two Highroader events in the DFW area.

From 9:00 AM - 11:00 AM, there will be a handgun class taught by TJ Pillings from Tiger Valley. The cost is $35. If you are interested in attending, please contact me via email or PM.

At 1:00 PM, we'll have our monthly shoot at DFW Gun Range. DFW allows shotguns, so bring your pistols and social guns, too.

I think I can speak for most when I say that the events we've had have been a real success. There have been new friends made, guns shared, and a good time had by all. We are looking forward to seeing some more new faces at the next shoot.

This is by no means an exclusive club. Please bring friends, family, co-workers, etc., to show them the positive aspects of gun ownership.

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aguyindallas
April 26, 2004, 06:34 PM
Techbrute:

Yes, the past two shoot's have been great. I have met some great people and tried on a few guns myself. I expect the May shoot to be the same. Come one, come all! :D

Hopefully alduro can take a break from saving the world and join us too! :evil:

CZSteve
April 26, 2004, 07:45 PM
Hey Techbrute,

Sorry I missed the rifle shoot yesterday.

Should already have me confirmed for Tiger Valley.

Noticed a couple of different options regarding payment of the $35.00.
Do we want to bank roll it in advance as GeeGee 'volunteered' or pay the day of?
Personally, have no preference either way.

Do we know what the training focus will consist of?
Ammo requirement?
Holster, mag carrier, etc?

TechBrute
April 26, 2004, 10:00 PM
Sorry I missed the rifle shoot yesterday. You missed a heck of a day. It was gorgeous weather and the targets were practically jumping in front of the bullets... :D

Should already have me confirmed for Tiger Valley. Noticed a couple of different options regarding payment of the $35.00.
Ok, there's been some back and forth on this, but we've decided to have GeeGee bankroll the event. Please contact him ASAP for the address to send the payment. We'd like to have all the payments in by Monday, 05.03.04.

Do we know what the training focus will consist of? Handguns in defense scenarios.

Ammo requirement?
I think 250 rounds would be a minimum. Remember, this is going to be 2 hours of intensive training. Last Sunday I burned 200 rounds of .45ACP and 50 rounds of .40S&W in 40 minutes, so I think any less than 250 rounds would not let you take advantage of the entire training.

Holster, mag carrier, etc?
Definately need a holster and a mag carrier. Here's what I'm bringing, use your best judgement:

Pistol
Holster
9 Mags
Mag carriers for 3 mags
Ammo
Water

EghtySx
April 26, 2004, 10:37 PM
I posted pics from the 4/24 shoot

here (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78854)

CatsDieNow
April 27, 2004, 09:58 AM
Okay...just to be sure this is Sunday the 23rd, not the 25th, right?
On May 25th, there will be two Highroader events in the DFW area.

TechBrute
April 27, 2004, 10:05 AM
Okay...just to be sure this is Sunday the 23rd, not the 25th, right?

quote:
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On May 25th, there will be two Highroader events in the DFW area.
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I don't know what you're talking about... ;)

roo_ster
April 28, 2004, 08:13 AM
I'm sorry I didn't get to socialize much with y'all. I had invited two folks comlpetely new to firearms and the pre-range training & socialization ran over a bit. I didn't want them to feel pressured and the guy's wife hit it off with my wife. Also, I wanted to be sure I kept an eye on them.

Anyway, they did fine: all the holes were in the targets, not themselves or any bystanders and they were shooting minute-of-squirrel by the time we left. Common sense on their part made it easier on me.

I was able to zero the cheesy scout scope on my M48 Mauser at 50 yards with the Turkish milsurp ammo. I, too, had a bruise when all was said & done. Those Turks load thier 8x57 HOT. A slip-on recoil pad is recommended, if not pretty.

Sylvilagus Aquaticus made it to my briefing and even brought Krispy Creme doghnuts to complement his STG58 and M44 M-N. Mmmm, Krispy Creme.

I may have company coming down 23MAY. Can't tell, really, until they arrive. Retired people are like that.

I, also would be open to some Saturday shoots, just to mix it up a bit. Or, maybe we can schedule an alternate shoot for some Saturday to supplement the monthly Sunday outing.

TechBrute
April 28, 2004, 08:34 AM
Since it's been more than 5 minutes since my last poll, I thought I'd post one on our Yahoo group so that we can get an idea about who can shoot when.

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/THR_DFW/surveys?id=1217360

orangeninja
April 28, 2004, 09:21 AM
"Hopefully alduro can take a break from saving the world and join us too!"

I'll be at the 9:00 AM training class with bells on. Don't worry, the world is saved yet again....:rolleyes:

TechBrute
April 28, 2004, 09:25 AM
I'll be at the 9:00 AM training class with bells on. Now there's a picture for you... :neener:

Lennyjoe
April 28, 2004, 10:32 AM
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRr:banghead:

I have to be back that weekend for an Exercise.

If it was on the weekend of the 15th then I would still be in that area.

I will be in Dallas on Sunday the 9th of May and then up to Wichita Falls for the next 12 days.

orangeninja
April 28, 2004, 06:54 PM
"Now there's a picture for you... "


I got a picture for ya......right here:what: :evil:

tiberius
April 29, 2004, 10:37 AM
Sounds good. I'm mailing my check to Geegee today for the training.

geegee
April 30, 2004, 07:33 AM
IMPORTANT!

Here's the email I received from TJ Pilling today:
Sounds like you guys are ready to do some shooting. Everyone will need the usual eye and ear protection and a hat would help with the flying brass. 9:00 am is a good start time for the class and we could handle 15-20 if you have that many. You can make the check out to Tiger Valley. Ammo consumption should be in the neighborhood of 250-300 rounds. I'm a firm believer that to learn you have to do, so my round counts tend to be on the high side. Let everyone know to bring spare magazines and be sure to have holster and magazine pouches. Look forward to seeing everyone T.J.
This will be a great day! I'll collect the $35.00 fee. Send me an email and I'll provide my address for payment.

orangeninja
April 30, 2004, 08:34 AM
Alduro's in....wazzzzzuuuuuppppp...Email sent.:D

aguyindallas
April 30, 2004, 09:24 AM
Well guys...I am seriously in a funk! I brought my own vehicle in for service to my companies service department yesterday. My SigPro in a zipper case under the drivers seat as I was without a suit jacket to conceal. At the end of the day when I got my car back (service department already closed), the gun is gone! Apparently the technician needed the gun more than I do. I of course filed a police report and the gun is now registered in the national NCIC system to protect me in case it is ever recovered or used in a crime. This really sucks. My service department takes no responsibility for it, so I will be talking to my General Manager shortly. NRA provides for $1000.00 in free firearm coverage, so I contacted them. They are sending me a claim packet to complete and return. Hopefully I can recover some of the money this way. This really sucks! :cuss: :banghead:

tiberius
April 30, 2004, 09:32 AM
Sorry to hear the bad news. I've never had one stolen (knock on wood) so I have no advice on the insurance claim....at leat you have other pistols to use in the mean time. Since you have to remove your pistol at times, have you thought about installing a safe/lockbox in your car somewhere?

aguyindallas
April 30, 2004, 09:36 AM
The thought has crossed my mind...now I guess I will do it! Its one of those things that just never made it to the top of my list.

orangeninja
April 30, 2004, 12:52 PM
Hey Steve, would you like me to stop by for a casual social call? ;)

I'd be glad to do it.

Secondly, you may use one of my Sig Pro's since I have an extra. No problem, just let me know.

TechBrute
April 30, 2004, 01:56 PM
A) Have you asked the tech for your gun back?
B) Have you spoken with your store's management?
C) Take Al up on his offer to drop by. I hear he has a bright shiny badge to flash around. :D

aguyindallas
April 30, 2004, 02:02 PM
Alduro...give me a call on my cell phone if you would please.

Techbrute:

I had the appropriate manager speak with the technician. His first response was "I dont know anything, did not see it"

After I made him talk to him again, he got "I saw the gun, but dont know where it went"

Per the owner of the company, we will be giving the dirt bag a chance to provide the gun today or matters will proceed. The owner has already agreed to replace the gun, which is appropriate and appreciated.

aguyindallas
May 1, 2004, 09:56 AM
Well, I came to work today, of course armed with a different weapon then my beloved Sig. My service manager saw me walking in and quickly got my attention. It seems that my Sig was placed in the service department refridgerator for somebody to discover.

Weapon Recovered. :D :D :D :D

TechBrute
May 1, 2004, 09:59 AM
That's great!! I hope the service manager has enough smarts to keep an eye on the tech and possibly the detailer that were in your car.

aguyindallas
May 1, 2004, 11:39 AM
Well, it was never detailed. The car was repaired by the quick lube guys. There are two of the, which are brothers. The one that has been here the longer time is not the suspect. He did however, tell his brother about it being in the car. His brother along with only 2 other service employees were in the shop this morning when it turned up. From what the service manager has told be, the newer brother has a real bad attitude and is already getting close to being on the way out for that. I have told the service manager that I do not intend any retaliation as long as I received my gun. I will not proceed to have him fired, however, if they choose to do so for other reasons, that is their business. Anyway, its nice to have my gun back and to know that its not on the street anymore. A quick call to the Irving Police was all it took to have my gun removed from the NCIC national database by providing them the officers report number.

By the way...Thanks Alduro!!!

orangeninja
May 3, 2004, 11:34 AM
No problem Steve, theives are usually lazy, let them know you are serious about a fight, and they'll roll over.:D

Besides, I got the impression the guy had NO IDEA how much trouble he was actually in.;)

TechBrute
May 3, 2004, 01:04 PM
Yeah, I don't know why you'd think you might get in trouble for stealing a gun. :rolleyes: What a dumas.

Anyway, glad you got the gun back, and three cheers for the small burro!!!

aguyindallas
May 4, 2004, 02:27 PM
Well, in light of the stolen and recovered gun, I think its time to get myself a tuckable holster. I hate wearing a suit jacket all day, so this is really my only option. Any tips on a good tuckable other than the CTAC? Remember, this is for a SigPro

TechBrute
May 4, 2004, 03:15 PM
The C-Tac... oh, wait... anyway, that's what I use. You'll get more input in the accessories forum.

aguyindallas
May 4, 2004, 05:07 PM
Techbrute:

What do you carry in your CTAC?

TechBrute
May 4, 2004, 05:20 PM
Glock 23 or 27.

aguyindallas
May 4, 2004, 05:32 PM
Whats the overall comfort level with the 23 in this holster? Do you like how it feels?

I didnt know you had a 27!

CZSteve
May 5, 2004, 08:42 AM
Hey Steve (guyindallas),

I have a Desantis 'Tuck-This' sized for a Sig 220/226 I had bought.
I have never really warmed up to IWB (especially coupled w/ a large gun) and when I called about returning the holster was infromed there would be a 20% restocking fee.
This kinda of torqued me off a bit as this is an 'off-the-shelf' holster (I can understand if it was a custom or build-to-order).

I'll bring it 5-23 if ya like.
Yours for half-price or trade ...?
Think it was about $40.00, I'll have to check later.

I'd rather sell it for less rather than jacking w/ Desantis.
As opposed to Fisk; ordered a tuckable kydex for my Makarov that WAS a made-to-order and they offered a FULL refund if not 100% satisfied.

Who do think will be getting my future business?:rolleyes:

TechBrute
May 5, 2004, 08:48 AM
Whats the overall comfort level with the 23 in this holster? Do you like how it feels? It's the most comfortable and stable holster for IWB that I've come across. That's saying something with a gun as wide as a Glock.

I didnt know you had a 27! I haven't brought it to any of the shoots. I also have quite a few other guns you haven't seen yet. ;)

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
May 5, 2004, 12:19 PM
FWIW I carry my P229 daily in a C-TAC. Very comfortable, but I'm skinny.

If I don't need to tuck, I use a Comp-Tac Undercover, which I hear they are discontinuing.

Regards,
Rabbit.

aguyindallas
May 5, 2004, 05:15 PM
CZSTEVE:

I will be interested in the holster if it fits my Sig. Care to set something up before the next shoot to see if it will fit? If so, please let me know. I think you have amy email address, or you can contact me on our Yahoo board where my email is listed.

Thanks!

Techbrute:

I am soooo jealous!

TechBrute
May 5, 2004, 05:18 PM
I am soooo jealous! Of my 27? I'll bring it to the next shoot so you can play with it if you want.

aguyindallas
May 6, 2004, 12:08 PM
I have an idea:

Since many of us carry concealed and have various guns we conceal in various ways with various clothing requirements, and the cost of buying holsters just to see if they work can get real expensive...quick! Why not set a time that we all meet and bring out all of our concealment gear for each other to try out. This way, we can get an idea of what we need without having to buy a certain item as a trial and end of not liking or needing it. Due to the nature of this, we would probably need to have it at someones home or possibly at an indoor range like Winchester where we can capture the entire range again.

This may also be a way for some of the folks that currently do not have a CHL to get some tips before they get started and also check out gear.

What are your thoughts?

orangeninja
May 6, 2004, 05:00 PM
GREAT IDEA!!! I'm in.....who else?

TechBrute
May 6, 2004, 05:15 PM
I can do that.

RRTX
May 6, 2004, 05:41 PM
Great idea :cool: I'm taking the CHL class this saturday

TechBrute
May 6, 2004, 05:54 PM
RRTX, we already know about your mag carrier...

geegee
May 6, 2004, 05:54 PM
Excellent idea! :D I'm in, too.

RRTX
May 6, 2004, 05:58 PM
RRTX, we already know about your mag carrier

:neener: I am now the proud owner of a wilderness instructor belt so I can no longer use mag holder

orangeninja
May 6, 2004, 07:01 PM
For those who don't know, RRTX's mag carrier has also been known as a plumber's smile?

Don't do crack kids.:D

CZSteve
May 6, 2004, 07:21 PM
Steve,

So, you're apparently smarter than the average bear (or THR'r).
Great idea.

Sounds like a reason to schedule another shoot at the Shooting Gallery.:D

I'll email in ya second to see if ya want to meet prior to 5-23.
Going to suggest that you take the holster and try it out first, just let me know on Sunday @ Tiger Valley.

aguyindallas
May 7, 2004, 10:31 AM
CZSteve:

Wanna hook up today instead of Monday? Would this be any easier for you?

orangeninja
May 7, 2004, 01:22 PM
"So, you're apparently smarter than the average bear (or THR'r).
Great idea."


Come on now Steve, we are talking about a guy who recently discovered his Sig in a refrigerator.....:neener:

Just kidding Steve:evil:

Hey, now that it's over we can all laugh and learn right?

aguyindallas
May 7, 2004, 02:26 PM
Yes, we can laugh, this is a cold case that is now closed.

Billmanweh
May 15, 2004, 04:10 PM
so how many people do we have confirmed for next Sunday?

TechBrute
May 16, 2004, 11:07 AM
I haven't paid yet, :( but I'll definately be there for both the training and the shoot.

CZSteve
May 16, 2004, 11:47 AM
Present

Um, both my brother and I will be there.

aguyindallas
May 16, 2004, 02:14 PM
Although I have not paid yet, I will be there. I am horrible with carrying any cash, can we use debit/credit cards to pay...anyone know? Geegee???

geegee
May 16, 2004, 03:17 PM
I haven't confirmed this with TJ, but I would think he'd prefer cash, or a check (where's the risk, if you're a SWAT officer taking a local check? :what: ). We'll probably be meeting outside at the range, so I would think he'd rather have paper, not plastic.

And heck yeah, I'm in! geegee

TechBrute
May 16, 2004, 03:51 PM
I planned on bringing cash. :D Steve, don't you have a "Cash is King" poster in your breakroom?

aguyindallas
May 17, 2004, 10:49 AM
Techbrute: Very funny..........!!!!

Remember, our breakroom has also been known as a gun locker too!

Seriously though, I am cash challenged....I use my debit card for everything!!! I really should carry cash more often, I think it would help make the gun embezzlement funt grow quicker! Is that what you do?

TechBrute
May 17, 2004, 11:07 AM
I have several methods of embezzling gun money from my wife. I don't limit myself to a single method. :D

aguyindallas
May 17, 2004, 11:16 AM
Techbrute....I need some tips on this...we really need to talk!

RDY357
May 17, 2004, 11:22 PM
First post.
I was reading about holsters and I found this web site form houston.

http://www.hoffners.com/

For the cost and what they have.....it looks promising.
I ordered the:
http://www.hoffners.com/min6.jpg


I am new to this board and would be intrested in shooting with you guys.
Do you usually shoot on Sundays? an easy day for me to escape the house.

Thanks
Dale

TechBrute
May 17, 2004, 11:25 PM
Welcome to the board.

As you can see from this thread, we've got two events this Sunday. A handgun training and a fun shoot.

Feel free to check out our Yahoo group. The link is in my sig line.

orangeninja
May 17, 2004, 11:27 PM
"Techbrute....I need some tips on this...we really need to talk!"


Techbrute, I have forwarded the above information to your wife, she would like to talk to you now.

:evil:

TechBrute
May 17, 2004, 11:30 PM
Damn you...:neener:

aguyindallas
May 18, 2004, 08:55 AM
Techbrute:

Still waiting for the tips. I guess we will have to talk via another means since apparently "somebody" has not been married long enough to know about "the fund"

Haha :neener:

geegee
May 18, 2004, 09:13 AM
I guess we will have to talk via another means since apparently "somebody" has not been married long enough to know about "the fund"
Hey, don't you two be so quick to give him all the best tricks and subterfuge it takes most of us years to master. ;)

aguyindallas
May 18, 2004, 09:25 AM
Geegee, you have my busting up over here!!! :D

geegee
May 18, 2004, 05:33 PM
Hey folks: Just a reminder from TJ Pilling on what to bring.

Everyone will need the usual eye and ear protection and a hat would help with the flying brass. 9:00 am is a good start time for the class and we could handle 15-20 if you have that many. You can make the check out to Tiger Valley. Ammo consumption should be in the neighborhood of 250-300 rounds. I'm a firm believer that to learn you have to do, so my round counts tend to be on the high side. Let everyone know to bring spare magazines and be sure to have holster and magazine pouches. Look forward to seeing everyone T.J.

To that, I would add that you can't go wrong by bringing along some bottles of water. Alduro, don't feel pressured to stop at your favorite donut place for us! :neener:

orangeninja
May 18, 2004, 06:10 PM
geegee....donuts are nectar of the god's....not for mere mortal consumption.:D

TechBrute
May 21, 2004, 12:24 AM
Anyone have directions to Elm Fork?

CZSteve
May 21, 2004, 06:59 AM
http://tigervalley.com/north.htm

http://www.elmfork.com/location.htm

Assuming we should arrive about a quarter till 9:00?

geegee
May 21, 2004, 10:17 AM
I think 8:45 am is good, but not later. If you haven't already paid, have a check made out for $35.00 to TIGER Valley, or have some cash.

Alduro-don't worry about the powdered sugar on your face. If TJ is there, he's LEO too! :p

patentnonsense
May 31, 2004, 10:42 AM
It was a great class, and I'm eager to get more instruction like that - I have a lot to learn!

And BTW does anybody know of a range that's open on Memorial Day? All my usual haunts seem to be closed. Thanks,

geegee
May 31, 2004, 11:08 AM
I think Elm Fork may be open. I haven't called them, but you might give them a try.

TechBrute
May 31, 2004, 05:41 PM
Just be careful of raining birdshot.

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