Can a Garand be accurized to shoot MOA?


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DMK
December 28, 2002, 08:51 PM
I just got a CMP Springfield Garand from Dad. I absolutely love the rifle but it doesn't group well at all so I'm considering sending it off to be rebuilt and accurized.

What kind of work would be required? 30.06 or 308? How much should one expect to spend?

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Powderman
December 28, 2002, 08:55 PM
I purchased an Arlington Ordnance rebuilt M1. It shoots like a dream.

However, for a good idea of what to expect, try this link:

www.fultonarmory.com

Look up anything on the site that has to do with the M1 Rifle. There is a wealth of information there.

With the proper accurizing, the Garand can shoot on the same level of a custom bolt gun. Good luck.

Ledbetter
December 28, 2002, 09:18 PM
Also check out

Dean's Gun Restorations

and

www.jouster.com


A CMP 1903 or 03A3 is easier to make into a target rifle.

cheygriz
December 29, 2002, 12:32 AM
MOA? No! It was never designed for that kind of accuracy. I've shot several dozen National Match M-1 Garands with many different National Match loads. A good 5 shot group was 1 1/2 inches. 1 3/4 -2 inches was the norm.

3 gun
December 29, 2002, 01:52 AM
The most cost effective gun I build is a DCM M-1 with new GI barrel, a rear lug and pillar bedding, with op-rod tracks and adj. Gas plug and maybe fire lapping. It can be expected to shoot 1 inch or less at 100 yards with good ammo. All provided at a total cost under $500.00.
Read more here (http://m1-m1a-ar15.com/m1_garand/)

DMK
December 29, 2002, 06:44 PM
Wow, 3 gun. That Clint Fowler has some radical ideas!

Thanks for the links guys!

SWRichmond
August 6, 2010, 10:31 AM
I registered specifically for the purpose of replying to this old thread; I found it while googling "garand accurizing."

Re: the assertion above that garands cannot shoot MOA. Poppycock. I have a match accurized (Nelson's Custom Guns, Columbus, GA) in .308 that I put a scope on and can routinely shoot 0.5" to 0.75" groups with at 100 yards, prone from a bipod. It is the most pleasant-shooting rifle I own.

Onmilo
August 6, 2010, 10:56 AM
Welcome to the High Road.
http://www.fototime.com/74931B4C79E9B3A/standard.jpg

This one is barrelled with a Douglas/Barnett medium weight in 7.62X51 and headspaced @ 1.637"
It will still shoot minute of angle out to at least 300 meters using premium ammunition as I still shoot it to that range.

Older N.M. Service rifles aren't in the same league and this rifle will shoot better than many factory bolt action sporting rifles.

Uncle Mike
August 6, 2010, 11:13 AM
'Can' it be done...yes, but the time spent to accomplish this feat, along with the cost is somewhat extensive, IF done right.

I have several M1's in 7.62X51 that will do the deed, one in 30-06 that will just barely do MOA, and I'll mention that the MOA doesn't go past 300y, if that, and on a good day!....but to answer your question, yes, it can be had.

Onmilo, nice 08' Garand, did you do it yourself or....? PM me if you have to.

Onmilo
August 6, 2010, 08:05 PM
I built it.

RainDownmyBlues
August 6, 2010, 08:31 PM
Looks more like an M14 receiver to me?

Onmilo
August 6, 2010, 10:29 PM
:) It isn't.
Here is a top view showing the clip block which prevents someone from inadvertantly loading a clip full of .30/06 into the rifle.
http://www.fototime.com/4F924F3A1DC5DA7/standard.jpg

Here is my Match upgraded M1A
http://www.fototime.com/CEE762632A4D0E1/standard.jpg

A match grade M1 has another advantage over an M14 type rifle, they require much less care and tinkering to keep the level of accuracy.
Don't break the upper handguard or pull it free of the front band and keep the gas cylinder tight and aligned and these rifles will shoot well for many thousands of rounds, at least as long as the bedding holds out.:)

clem
August 6, 2010, 11:38 PM
Back in the 60s at the "High Desert" match at MCB 29 Palms, CA. I witnessed a team shooter with a match M-1 Garand shoot 100 x 28 Vs at 1,000 yards.

The answer is: "yes it can".

Onmilo
August 6, 2010, 11:46 PM
Clint Fowler once ran a Tactical shotgun course using a single barrel H&R shotgun and cleaned up nicely.
Just one of his rather bizzare displays.

Clint likes to show naysayers that "Can't" isn't in his dictionary! :)

Hangingrock
August 7, 2010, 04:53 PM
In the old days a NM-M1 was a 2-MOA rifle. I did not know Fowler was still among the living. I had one of his triple lug M1 rifles in 7.62mm NATO.

bluecollar
August 9, 2010, 10:21 AM
I know one of them will just as its made. This is a CMP correct grade Springfield (late manufacture) just as it was delivered from CMP. This is the target it shot, only three shots, made with Remington 150 gr. "Cor-Lok" before I knew not to shoot commercial in this gun. But the gun seems to like it;)125676125677

clem
August 9, 2010, 12:17 PM
You need something like this for your gas system to shoot different ammo.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=20456/Product/ADJUSTABLE_GAS_SYSTEM

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