Ridiculous Gunbroker Posting of the Week


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Shmackey
December 29, 2002, 02:53 AM
I was born at night, but not LAST night. (http://gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=6732216)

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PATH
December 29, 2002, 03:03 AM
:rolleyes: :D

Schuey2002
December 29, 2002, 03:40 AM
That's nuts! His starting price is $820.00.. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :eek:

Blackhawk
December 29, 2002, 04:22 AM
Maybe that's how he got to be kidbillions. Check out a few of his old auctions. Maybe he's churning them with another user name.

One I checked was a NIB Interarms Walther PP .22 that started at $999 and went for $1,000. Do I simply not appreciate the value of it?

Okiecruffler
December 29, 2002, 06:39 AM
You gotta give him props for trying. I'm thinking a big set of brass ones ride in his pocket.

Nosferatu
December 29, 2002, 06:56 AM
Originally posted by Okiecruffler
You gotta give him props for trying. I'm thinking a big set of brass ones ride in his pocket.

Unfortunatly, it doesn't take brass anythings to be a dumbass on the internet.

I did email him, asking if it was a typo. I'll post his response, if I get one.

Jmurman
December 29, 2002, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by Shmackey
I was born at night, but not LAST night. (http://gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=6732216)

please understand that NJ and MD have passed laws that you cant sell guns without the "non-existant" electronic Key ID. Used guns will go for a real premium. New gun sales will plummet.

RustyHammer
December 29, 2002, 08:24 AM
Haven't even looked, but my guess is ... KidBillions?

tlhelmer
December 29, 2002, 09:41 AM
That has to be a typo. 820.00:eek:

KMKeller
December 29, 2002, 10:01 AM
Sorry folks, no typo. KidBillions is notorious for his asking prices, and fairly well known around this board.

Tady45
December 29, 2002, 10:29 AM
Yes indeed,
I visit GunBroker.com often, and see some mighty bizarre things. Most of the auctioners are in fact dealers, with retail shops. Prices are not what they use to be as, they are just trying to squeeze a few more bucks out of there products. I have found some great people to do business with, and so not so great ones...


Larry

trapshooter
December 29, 2002, 12:18 PM
I would expect to see a bull barrel, rib and an action job, with a smoothed trigger. IOW, a PPC gun.

But nooooo! What I see is a box-stock, police standard Mod. 19 that probably retailed at $350-450 tops when it was made, for roughly double that.:eek: :confused:

Is this loser related to P.T. Barnum?

Redlg155
December 29, 2002, 01:22 PM
Even though his prices are outrageous, I bet he finds a sucker in every crowd.

Good Shooting
RED

pogo2
December 29, 2002, 01:33 PM
After looking at this auction, I clicked on "Kidbillions" other auctions. He had 8 pages of auctions, about 200 in all, that were all ridiculous prices. And he didn't have a single bid on any of them.

So what is he trying to do here? He seems to have a huge inventory of guns, but is in no hurry to sell them. The only logic I can see is:

1. There is no charge for listing the guns on Gunbroker, only in selling them - no sale, no cost to Kidbillions.

2. If he automates his listing process somehow, he can keep relisting with little effort.

3. If the occasional sucker comes along and buys a gun at these high prices, Kidbillions makes a very nice profit.

4. The only loser is the website that uses up a lot of their server capacity listing all these guns, for very little return.

So maybe Kidbillions is not really dumb, but crafty.

dleong
December 29, 2002, 01:46 PM
820 U.S. dollars??? That is pretty ridiculous.

DL

Shmackey
December 29, 2002, 02:02 PM
please understand that NJ and MD have passed laws that you cant sell guns without the "non-existant" electronic Key ID. Used guns will go for a real premium. New gun sales will plummet.

I do appreciate the quandary imposed by requiring nonexistent features, but there are still 48 states that allow you to buy guns that exist. No way am I going to pay $820 for a $300 gun because someone on the Turnpike wants my revolver to run on cold fusion.

chaim
December 29, 2002, 02:51 PM
please understand that NJ and MD have passed laws that you cant sell guns without the "non-existant" electronic Key ID. Used guns will go for a real premium. New gun sales will plummet. Not entirely true. I can't speak for NJ but here in MD what is required is an existing, and simple, technology, albeit one that not many makers put in their guns. Any gun made after Jan 1 must have a built-in lock (you know like the ones we all hate in Taurus and S&W guns). Still a bad law, and one that will make most new guns illegal here, but not as bad as you say (though dealers are expecting losses of up to 80% of their handgun business- not sure how very many will be able to stay in business). As for the rest of your post, you are pretty much right.

guitar7272
December 29, 2002, 02:53 PM
NJ may have passed the law, but it doesnt go into effect until three years after the state attorney general determines a smart gun prototype is safe and commercially available. This technology is long from being perfected... but who knows, anything is possible in this state. The attorney general (read: liberal blowhard) could say the technology exists tomorrow.

ruger357
December 29, 2002, 02:57 PM
Local gunshop has one for $249.

dacinokc
December 29, 2002, 03:09 PM
All he has to do is sell one!!!:p

larryw
December 29, 2002, 03:30 PM
Ah, the beauty of free trade and capitalism: a seller is free to ask any price for a product and the buyer is free to decide if the product justifies the price.

George Hill
December 29, 2002, 03:45 PM
He is probably trying to sell guns that he doesn't own.
Snapping pics if guns out of the counter at his local broker's place, and then if an auction is won, he buys the gun and then sends it to the auction winner.

Regardless of what he is doing... if anything else... it made me laugh out loud.

And really, he is no worse than 1/2 the people with tables at your average gunshow.

faustulus
December 29, 2002, 04:47 PM
Sadly at least 25 people fell victim to this idiot.

Mike Irwin
December 29, 2002, 05:23 PM
Oh, that's Kid Billions.

I think someone pegged it when they said he's posting free on Gunbroker, and waiting for people to e-mail him with reasonable offers. That way he gets to post his guns, but doesn't have to pay any listing or sales fees.

Blackhawk
December 29, 2002, 05:48 PM
Snapping pics if guns out of the counter at his local broker's place, and then if an auction is won, he buys the gun and then sends it to the auction winner. Wouldn't that be an illegal strawman purchase by him?

eap
December 29, 2002, 06:01 PM
did you notice his shipping price? $40 for handguns!:rolleyes:

Shmackey
December 29, 2002, 07:35 PM
Wouldn't that be an illegal strawman purchase by him?

I don't think so, as long as his customer has to go through a background check as well. It's not like he's handing it over to someone under the table.

isaidme
December 29, 2002, 10:12 PM
I wonder if thats the same guy who posts at the 1911forums?

Kevinch
December 29, 2002, 10:17 PM
Well come on now people - it is NIB & does have "Fancy Target Grips" :rolleyes:

thisaway
December 29, 2002, 10:49 PM
Those "fancy target grips" had better be made of GD'd ivory ! :rolleyes:

standingbear
December 30, 2002, 02:13 AM
i though i could only see prices like that at gunshows.guess the seller thinks everyone musta have fallen off the truck yesterday.

Jmurman
December 30, 2002, 06:45 AM
Originally posted by chaim
Not entirely true. I can't speak for NJ but here in MD what is required is an existing, and simple, technology, albeit one that not many makers put in their guns. Any gun made after Jan 1 must have a built-in lock (you know like the ones we all hate in Taurus and S&W guns). Still a bad law, and one that will make most new guns illegal here, but not as bad as you say (though dealers are expecting losses of up to 80% of their handgun business- not sure how very many will be able to stay in business). As for the rest of your post, you are pretty much right.
Lets hope that the new Governor will put people in the position that can rid us of this idiocy.

Kahr carrier
December 30, 2002, 06:56 AM
A SCALPER IN ACTION.:rolleyes:

Jmurman
December 30, 2002, 07:17 AM
Originally posted by isaidme
I wonder if thats the same guy who posts at the 1911forums?

What name would he be posting under?

SouthpawShootr
December 30, 2002, 10:19 PM
I think we should make this a regular award. Each week showcase the most ridiculous gun auction you can find.

As far as the fancy target stocks goes, I can pick these up a shows all day for under $10 (usually much less). Alot of people positively hated these stocks (I don't happen to be one of them, so I have a half dozen pair sitting around the house). It's a nice gun, but couldn't be work over half what he's opening with.

Flatfender
December 30, 2002, 11:11 PM
Maybe he's crazy.

Maybe his wife told him to sell all of his "terrible" guns and he's doing the best he can. "Sorry dear, nobody is interested in buying my guns so I'll guess I'll just have to keep them.

Crazy like a fox perhaps.

Nah. :p

Gewehr98
December 30, 2002, 11:43 PM
His wife told him to sell them.

Although the back-channel sales is plausible.

I've gotten a giggle out of his prices for quite some time. I figured he'd get a clue and move on before now.

isaidme
December 30, 2002, 11:49 PM
Jmurman,I am sure ive seen him post before,thought it was the 1911forum but i might be wrong!I am registered with all the major online forums and I know ive seen him.

cratz2
December 31, 2002, 01:28 AM
I have a 3 screw Single Six that I'd gladly sell for $625.

700 Police for $1,030? I thought $680 was a bit steep.

But one of the guns he actually SOLD was a unissued Polish M44 for $206. I just bought one for $89!

clem
December 31, 2002, 11:28 PM
Wow, how sad, another victim of greed.

vulcan
January 1, 2003, 08:46 PM
I agree with Mike Irwin, He post a high price so a prespective buyer can contact him to haggle. In another TFL thread about him, Kidbillions was willing to consider offers emailed to him.

Watch-Six
January 2, 2003, 11:55 AM
I must be psychic. I knew who it was before I even looked. Watch-Six

GeorgeAtl
January 2, 2003, 02:38 PM
He oughta try to post an IN FOCUS picture, and then maybe he'd get a few responses...

Who would buy a horribly overpriced gun from a guy who can't even take a focused picture?

Nosferatu
January 2, 2003, 09:41 PM
Well, I emailed him and got a response. His respone was:

"please make your best offer and i will give you an answer
thanks
Steve"

Seems he's just trying to get offline offers to avoid paying Gunbroker's fees.

I wonder if one could compile enough evidence against him to file a complaint with Gunbroker? As a new and honest seller there, this kind of dishonesty bugs me. Perhaps he's just smarter for finding a way around the system...not a way I would conduct any business of mine though.

MR.G
January 2, 2003, 10:19 PM
I wonder what he pays for his guns.

cardboardkiller
January 3, 2003, 05:02 AM
Notice he has no bids on any of his auctions and he has 8 pages worth.

bpisler
January 3, 2003, 06:09 PM
I want to know where he finds all of those NIB smith and wesson's or are they just reblued old revolvers and that's the reason for the fuzzy pictures.

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