How will gun makers deal with states with 10 round mag limits after the AWB expires?


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Lone_Gunman
September 5, 2004, 10:23 AM
Will they have to ship 10 rounders to some states, and full caps to others?

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Foreign Devil
September 5, 2004, 10:45 AM
I think they will manufacture a small number of castrated magazines for those oppressed states.

On a separate topic, I hope they continue to write "For Law Enforcement Use ONly" on all magazines, so that if a new ban is passed it will be harder to enforce the mag limitation.

thatguy
September 5, 2004, 12:52 PM
CA became first state to infringe on our rights to own large mags in 1989. The federal ban came 5 years later. We will have to wait and see if there is enough market to justify manufacturing 10 round mags just for them. I guess the rest of us could donate all those 10 rounders we wound up with in the past 10 years to those poor unfortunate souls living behind the gun curtain.

Dbl0Kevin
September 5, 2004, 02:17 PM
We will have to wait and see if there is enough market to justify manufacturing 10 round mags just for them.

Why does everyone like to forget about NJ when this comes up? Cali isn't the only oppressed state with a mag ban. Yeah ours is 15 rounds but that just makes it even more weird. What the hell are we to do about 17 round glock mags, or when most rifle mags come with either 5 or 20 round mags?

Ex-Doc
September 5, 2004, 06:24 PM
I believe states that have mag limits sell more guns than all free states combined....

Ewok
September 5, 2004, 07:24 PM
CA became first state to infringe on our rights to own large mags in 1989.

1999 for mags, not 1989. Of course, ownership is not restricted, you just can't buy, sell, loan, or give them away. :rolleyes:

twency
September 5, 2004, 08:04 PM
I think they will manufacture a small number of castrated magazines for those oppressed states.

Perhaps they will find it simpler and more cost-effective to ship all guns with "castrated" mags and only offer full capacity mags as a separate accessory. Make more money on the original sale that way (fewer variations in shipped product = lower cost to produce), and make extra cash selling the "high-capacity" (really just normal, designed-capacity) mags separately as accessories. Everyone in retail knows the money's in the accessories, not the core product, on stuff like this. I hope that they will ship "normal-cap" and "reduced-cap" kits as separate items, and the dealers in less-restrictive states will stock the normal-cap kits as the norm, but that's probably not the most cost-effective way to handle the situation.


-twency

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Jim K
September 9, 2004, 10:57 PM
Maryland also has its own magazine limit - 20 rounds, passed before the federal AWB and continuing in effect. Hi caps can be owned, but not transferred in state even to a dealer.

Dealers will just not stock anything larger even if the federal law sunsets unless they have an LE market.

Jim

Rimmer
September 9, 2004, 11:02 PM
Now for the obvious uninformed newb question...... Is there a list of which states have laws limiting mag capacity? I can see me driving across the border into a sticky situation with a 20 rounder.

seed
September 9, 2004, 11:04 PM
I will be very interested to see how they will mark the new mags...Will you be able to tell if they were pre or post ban? Probably, is my guess...but I hope that my pessimism is proven wrong. The reason it matters? Well, you can figure how a Kali second-class citizen with friends who are true U.S. citizens might be interested...for curiosity's sake only, of course.

seed.

marklbucla
September 9, 2004, 11:16 PM
I guess the rest of us could donate all those 10 rounders we wound up with in the past 10 years to those poor unfortunate souls living behind the gun curtain.

Yeah, I'm all for that!!!! If anyone's got any 9mm CZ, Beretta, or Ruger mags, I'll take em!!!

I'm actually waiting to buy a bunch from Natchez because I wanna see what happens to their prices after the AWB is over. I'd totally assume that demand for those would plummet, effectively dropping the prices on them.

thatguy
September 10, 2004, 12:09 AM
EWOK, did not the CA ban on mags over 10 rounds become law with the Assault Weapon Ban of 1989? I was pretty sure the date of the CA mag ban was 1989.

Aztlan
September 10, 2004, 01:43 AM
did not the CA ban on mags over 10 rounds become law with the Assault Weapon Ban of 1989? I was pretty sure the date of the CA mag ban was 1989.


NO, the date of the CA mag ban was 1999.


Aztlan

one45auto
September 10, 2004, 02:00 AM
Maryland also has its own magazine limit - 20 rounds, passed before the federal AWB and continuing in effect. Hi caps can be owned, but not transferred in state even to a dealer.

Jim,

If the limit is 20 rounds, how will that affect handgun owners whose magazines were formerly 15 rounds? Surely the dealers will be stocking those, as there will be nothing illegal about them.

Skunkabilly
September 15, 2004, 01:36 PM
Yeah, I'm all for that!!!! If anyone's got any 9mm CZ, Beretta, or Ruger mags, I'll take em!!!

Jerk, save some for me! You don't even own a Beretta...yet :neener:

45R
September 15, 2004, 03:45 PM
I'll take Any 10 rd Sig mags :)

Graystar
September 15, 2004, 03:53 PM
On a separate topic, I hope they continue to write "For Law Enforcement Use ONly" on all magazines, so that if a new ban is passed it will be harder to enforce the mag limitation. Not if it banned *all* >10 mags, regardless of manufacture date.

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