What's the best .45 carbine?


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firearms_instructor
September 5, 2004, 09:06 PM
Please post your nominations for the best .45 carbine. Inquiring minds want to know!

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AK103K
September 9, 2004, 02:12 PM
I like my little Winchester Trapper in .45

Brian Williams
September 9, 2004, 04:00 PM
45 ACP OR COLT

ACP is either the Marlin camp carbine or a HK UMP.

Colt I would go with a Marlin 1894 non cowboy model.

355sigfan
September 9, 2004, 04:48 PM
I vote for the Marlin Guide gun in 45-70. Or the Winchester in 45 colt for cowboy action shooting. I have no use for pistol caliber carbines. So for me your question is like saying which piece of garbage is the best.
Pat

MarineTech
September 9, 2004, 06:04 PM
The Delisle is probably my favorite .45 carbine.

http://www.valkyriearms.com/delisle.htm

mainmech48
September 9, 2004, 07:26 PM
Many, many years ago someone (H&R?) was making and selling semi-auto Reising carbines in .45 ACP. If I ever run across one in any kind of decent shape again, it's going home with me.

The only gripes I have with the late, lamented Marlin Camp Carbines are the lack of a double-stack option in the .45s and the too-soft recoil spring. The bolt on the one that I shot sure 'whacked' the receiver a good one with every shot. That's the major reason I never bought one, personally.

Given the option to use Witness, Glock, or Para double stack mags and a stronger aftermarket recoil spring, I'd go look for one. If there was one that'd use Thompson or M-3 mags - Boy Howdy!!

nipprdog
September 9, 2004, 08:40 PM
Given the option to use Witness, Glock, or Para double stack mags and a stronger aftermarket recoil spring, I'd go look for one. If there was one that'd use Thompson or M-3 mags - Boy Howdy!!

don't have a link, but there is a company that markets an FAL rifle that takes grease gun mags, FYI.

Dave Markowitz
September 9, 2004, 09:31 PM
Many, many years ago someone (H&R?) was making and selling semi-auto Reising carbines in .45 ACP. If I ever run across one in any kind of decent shape again, it's going home with me.

My favorite gun shop had one of these a year or so ago. Asking price was $1800.

The only gripes I have with the late, lamented Marlin Camp Carbines are the lack of a double-stack option in the .45s and the too-soft recoil spring. The bolt on the one that I shot sure 'whacked' the receiver a good one with every shot. That's the major reason I never bought one, personally.

Easy fix for the recoil spring: Get a stronger one from Wolff. I installed a Wolff 16 lb. spring in my Camp 45 and it runs great. It would be cool if I could use Grease Gun or Thompson mags, but the Chip McCormick 10 rounders I have work well.

Domino
September 9, 2004, 10:24 PM
I like my Navy Arms (Rossi) lever action in .45 colt. There's not a lot of .45 ACP options if that's what your refering to, my list of known ones go as followed....

1.) Marlin Camp .45 (http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/orig/mc45.htm)
2.) Valkyrie Arms DeLisle (http://www.valkyriearms.com/delisle.htm)
3.) Feather USA Rav .45 (http://www.featherusa.com/)
4.)Auto Ordinance (Kahr) Thompson (http://www.tommygun.com/)
5.) Beretta CX4 Storm (http://www.cx4storm.com/)
6.) Mech Tech (http://www.mechtechsys.com/) conversion for glocks and 1911's

hmmm... that's it I think. Never shot a single one of em :) but I hope this helps.

ddc
September 10, 2004, 12:14 AM
How about an Olympic .45 ACP upper for an AR15?

http://www.olyarms.com/usa.html

No experience with it yet; maybe someday....

cane
September 10, 2004, 12:49 AM
mech; There was a person, in Ohio, I believe that would convert Marlin Camp Carbines to take other magazines. I had a 9mm converted to Beretta mags, and a .45 to take S&W's (carried a 4506 as a duty gun) couldn't find his name but will keep looking.

M2 Carbine
September 11, 2004, 04:47 PM
mainmech48

Many, many years ago someone (H&R?) was making and selling semi-auto Reising carbines in .45 ACP. If I ever run across one in any kind of decent shape again, it's going home with me.
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We had a Reising auto at a little get together.
It was a "civilian" full auto that the owner had bought new MANY years ago.
All day the darned thing never emptied a magazine without jamming .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/Reising.jpg


My Marlin 45 is OK but I favor this one.:)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/Thompson.jpg

Bwana John
September 11, 2004, 05:26 PM
Reisling .45 SMG!

goon
September 11, 2004, 06:38 PM
FYI - I think that there was a semi auto carbine version of the Reising made around the same time that the Reising SMGs were being made and issued.

Mannlicher
September 11, 2004, 06:39 PM
Probably will be the Beretta Storm, when they come out in .45 ACP

Number 6
September 12, 2004, 03:49 AM
I think that there was a semi auto carbine version of the Reising made around the same time that the Reising SMGs were being made and issued.

Yes, you are right. It was the Reising Model 60. It was primarily meant for police use and was almost the same as the Reising Model 50 submachine gun except with a longer barrel and it did not have a full auto feature.

boofus
September 12, 2004, 10:13 AM
Get an Uzi in .45 ACP :D

Carl N. Brown
June 22, 2005, 05:50 PM
The model 60 Reising was used in training stateside and for railroad
bridge and plant guards in WWII. Writers to the USMC magazine
Leatherneck claim the M60 semi-auto were issued to NCOs at
Guadalcanal and regular marines got the select fire M50 and
paratrooper M55 versions. The salty environment did not agree
with the tight tolerances of the Reising and there was no place for
dirt to go in the action: they rusted up and jammed.

For years though the M60 Reising was the only .45 carbine available.
I have seen several Volunteer Enterprises Commando Arms Mark III,
Mark V and Mark 45 semi-auto .45 tommygun lookalikes but was put
off by the cheap appearance. I have a Auto Ordnance TM1 semi-auto
I bought for 750 and do enjoy shooting it, but eleven pounds empty
it ain't a featherweight.

I have heard that ATF tech branch has allowed folks to rebuild
M50s as M60s with approval of the rebuild plans.

DontBurnMyFlag
June 22, 2005, 05:54 PM
I have limited experience with .45 carbines. Ive shot a "thompson" , beretta storm in .45 and an HK USC (civvy UMP)

of all of them I like the USC the best. plus its an HK. They are pricey and Ive seen them for about 1200 dollars. but thats my info on the subject

Bigfoot
June 22, 2005, 10:24 PM
In the For Sale section here a couple of weeks back is a Marlin Camp .45. The seller stated what weight springs to use for +P and .45 Super ammo. That .45 Super should give some impressive velocities with the carbine barrel.

Kestrel
June 23, 2005, 12:49 AM
UZI, Model B

cslinger
June 23, 2005, 01:07 AM
Well for real full auto stuff I gotta go with the good ole' Thompson. Big, heavy and pretty unwieldy all things considered but man they are a blast to shoot.

As for semi-auto I like this guy very much. Sheslinger's HK USC with Grease Gun Magazine conversion. It has never missed a beat. The only issue it has is that it requires the "HK slap" in order to strip the first round.

http://www.hunt101.com/img/151420.JPG

http://www.hunt101.com/img/155653.JPG

INTUNE's daughter shooting it.
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=15870

SamlautRanger
June 23, 2005, 01:36 AM
M3 Grease Gun. Never had one jam. Worked for me in very bad conditions. Simple. ACcurate for short ranges. Can only fire full auto, but if you learn to control the trigger you can get just one or two shots off. The one gun I was really sorry to have to leave behind.

natedog
June 23, 2005, 02:55 AM
I vote for the Marlin Guide gun in 45-70....I have no use for pistol caliber carbines.

I agree.

steveracer
June 23, 2005, 08:17 AM
Uzi is the easiest one of these to go and actually buy and get parts and mags for.
Also, unstoppable.
The marlin is cool, but I have never actually seen one in a gunshop.

The Drew
June 23, 2005, 08:30 AM
Somebody mentioned The Delisle, I was reading one of the gun rags recently and saw an enfield conversion kit for less than $200, that allows use of 1911 mags like The Delisle but doesn't have a supressor....

basically the same functionality as the non supressed, and all said and done with the cost of the enfield you should be sub $500...

brickboy240
June 23, 2005, 11:43 AM
Taurus is coming out with a copy of the Colt lightning pump-rifle in 45 Colt. It will retail for slightly over 400 dollars and come with Taurus' lifetime warranty.

It ought to be a winner!

-Brickboy240

Browns Fan
June 23, 2005, 12:50 PM
The best .45 carbine? Why a Chicago typewriter, of couse!

RevDisk
June 23, 2005, 01:12 PM
HK UMP, hands down.


But... There's just something about a Thompson....

SONICMASD
June 23, 2005, 01:53 PM
if you wanna fire 45ACP from a carbine the only name that should come into your head should be "THOMPSON". i mean its a legend and theres just so much style and elegance to it. I love the beretta storm but id take a thompson over it anyday, unless i was a professional and planned on actually storming houses with it, then id take the beretta cuz its so light.

Zach S
June 23, 2005, 05:24 PM
I'd like to get my hands on a USC, I've held one, but never fired one.

But at the moment, I have two AO Thompson 1927A1s. My only .45 carbines.

Correia
June 23, 2005, 06:04 PM
I'm curious as to where all of you are getting so much trigger time of .45 Beretta Storms? :)

Zak Smith
June 23, 2005, 06:53 PM
Nobody's mentioned a 45ACP AR15 upper yet?

Catbird
June 23, 2005, 07:51 PM
I'm rather fond of my Winchester "Wrangler" chambered in .45 Colt. Actually, it started out as a "Trapper" and I swapped the traditional lever for a large loop lever just for fun.

http://www.theduke.de/images/Winchester/1894wrangler.jpg

Tony Mig
June 23, 2005, 09:17 PM
Auto-Ordnance Thompson 1927M1....

Steel & wood, the things a gun should be made of...... :D

PeacefulWarrior
June 24, 2005, 08:37 AM
Old School Gangster/G-Man/G.I THOMPSON .45 ACP Machine Gun!!!

ACP230
June 24, 2005, 09:03 AM
I like the Ingram Model 6.
With a short trigger pull you get semi-auto fire. A longer pull and you get rock and roll.

The Ingram has been more reliable than the Reisings I've shot and seems better balanced.

Unfortunately magazines for the M6 are hard to find and expensive.

1911 guy
June 24, 2005, 02:33 PM
Go with a short rifle in a rifle cartridge. If you want something in a handgun ctg., get a handgun. As was debated on a previous thread, better to have a short rifle than a long pistol.

cslinger
June 24, 2005, 05:56 PM
Go with a short rifle in a rifle cartridge. If you want something in a handgun ctg., get a handgun. As was debated on a previous thread, better to have a short rifle than a long pistol.

Very sound tactical advice.........................but what if you are not tactical :scrutiny: I actually shoot for fun sometimes. :neener:

Spreadfire Arms
June 24, 2005, 06:59 PM
im getting a UMP45 soon (select fire tho.....dont know if it qualifies as a carbine tho since its a subgun).

ill let you know how it shoots when BATF says i can have it. and only $900 too! :D

GarrettJ
July 19, 2005, 11:29 PM
if you wanna fire 45ACP from a carbine the only name that should come into your head should be "THOMPSON".
While I can't disagree with you, a real Thompson (not one of those long-barrled imitations) would cost at least 5 times what I paid for my Reising M-50.

Another option would be a MAC10/45 carbine. They use grease-gun mags, parts are plentiful, and they are built like a brick. Put a solid stock on one, and they can actually be shot pretty well.

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