Where do you plan to be in 2008?


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lwsimon
September 9, 2004, 04:01 PM
The way I see it, one of three things is going to happen.

1) Bush will be re-elected. The American public will be happy with his leadership for the next 4 years, and a Republican will be elected in 2008, hopefully Dr. Rice.

2) Bush will be re-elected. Something goes wrong in the next four years, and we get a Democrat in office, most probably Hillary.

3) Kerry is elected.

Now, only in situation 1 would we be in a good position as far as RKBA. If 2 or 3 happen, i'm seriously considering immigrating to a more level-headed country - currently looking at Israel or Switzerland. Four years of Kerry would be bad, four (or eight!) years of Hillary would be catastrophic. What are you guys planning?

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Dave Markowitz
September 9, 2004, 04:13 PM
Even if #2 or #3 happens, the USA is still the best place to be.

Israel's government is basically socialist and your RKBA there is VERY restricted. Ask Microbalrog, an Israeli member of this board.

Switzerland is very picky about who it lets immigrate.

lwsimon
September 9, 2004, 04:17 PM
Was under the impression that it was very easy to obtain and carry even FA weapons there... Maybe the pics i have been seeing are of very upper class areas or something, btu there's somethign about a beautiful woman with a gucci bag over one shoulder, and a collapsed Uzi over the other that really turns me on....

SlowStar
September 9, 2004, 04:32 PM
With any luck at all, I will be standing in line to vote AGAINST Hillary. Hill, ole gal, is peeing in her pants now, afraid that the gigalo, lying ass, etc Kerry will win this election. That would set her time back another 4 years.
Methinks that times are gonna get interesting. Stick around. And keep the 1911's well oiled.
Slowstar

Lone_Gunman
September 9, 2004, 04:39 PM
I think even most Republicans have problems with Bush. After four more years of him, a lot of people will be so sick and tired of the GOP that Hillary will be in a great position to win the presidency.

Standing Wolf
September 9, 2004, 04:54 PM
America is never going to elect Shillary Snopes Clinton to high public office.

Black Majik
September 9, 2004, 04:58 PM
I'll probably still stuck in California.

Reality wise, I'm already used to not having much gun freedom. Within a few years I'm gonna try and obtain a CCW permit. That in it of itself is a HUGE step for me. And I think I'll be perfectly happy here.

Yeah, I wont get an AR-15 like I always wanted, and the .50 is about to be banned, but those are small priorities in life.

My family, friends, and life is still here. I'm used to the high prices, the crappy laws. I'm not goin' anywhere.

El Tejon
September 9, 2004, 05:10 PM
Won't know until 2006. Maybe Dallas, Indy or Portland right now. Time will tell.

joe sixpack
September 9, 2004, 05:47 PM
According to the DU and Liberal forums, we could be involved in a civil war
long before that and it will be reps against dems!

Glad I'm independant:p

cheers, ab

atek3
September 9, 2004, 06:06 PM
either wyoming or NH (go free state go). Or maybe some other country entirely.

atek3

boo17
September 9, 2004, 06:58 PM
GO NH! im glad people will be coming to this great state that I live in.

Lone_Gunman
September 9, 2004, 06:59 PM
America is never going to elect Shillary Snopes Clinton to high public office.

Are you being facetious?

Dave Markowitz
September 9, 2004, 07:14 PM
America is never going to elect Shillary Snopes Clinton to high public office.

From your mouth to God's ears.

I wish I was so confident.

WalkerTexasRanger
September 9, 2004, 10:40 PM
I will either be in Texas, or in the Republic of Texas, depends on what happens in Nov. We Texans love y'all, but we'll have to take action if Kerry wins president over Bush. We'll miss you too.

Texas has given all those complainers plenty of time to get used to the results. After seeing the whiners along the campaign route, the folks from Texas are considering taking matters into our their hands.

Here is our solution:

#1: Let John Kerry become President of the United States. (all 49 states.)

#2: George W. Bush becomes the President of the Republic Of Texas.

So what does Texas have to do to survive as a Republic?

1. NASA is just south of Houston, Texas. (we will control the space industry.)

2. We refine over 85% of the gasoline in the United States.

3. Defense Industry. (we have over 65% of it) The term "Don't mess with Texas," will take on a who le new meaning.

4. Oil - we can supply all the oil that the Republic of Texas will need for the next 300 years. Yankee states? Sorry about that.

5. Natural Gas - Again we have all we need and it's too bad about those northern states. John Kerry will figure a way to keep them warm....

6. Computer Industry - we currently lead the nation in producing computer chips and communications: Small places like Texas Instruments, Dell Computer, EDS, Raytheon, National Semiconductor, Motorola,Intel, AMD, Atmel, Applied Materials,
Ball Semiconductor, Dallas Semiconductor, Delphi, Nortel, Alcatel, Etc, Etc. The list goes on and on.

7. Health Centers - We have the largest research centers for Cancer research, the best burn centers and the top trauma units in the world and other large health planning centers.

8. We have enough colleges to ke ep us going: UT Texas, A&M, Texas Tech, Rice, SMU, University of Houston, Baylor, UNT, Texas Women's University, Ivy grows better in the south anyway.

9. We have a ready supply of workers.

10. We have control of the paper industry, plastics, insurance, etc.

11. In case of a foreign invasion, we have the Texas National Guard and the Texas Air National Guard. We don't have an army but since everybody down here has at least six rifles and a pile of ammo, we can raise an army in 24 hours if we need it. If the situation really gets bad, we can always call Department of Public Safety and ask them to send over a couple Texas Rangers.

12. We are totally self sufficient in beef, poultry, hogs and several types of grain, fruit and vegetables and lets not forget seafood from the gulf. And everybody down here knows how to cook them so that they taste good. Don't need any food.

This just names a few of the items that will keep the Republic Of Texas in good shape. There isn't a thing out there that we need and don't have.



Now to the rest of the United States under President Kerry:



Since you won't have the refineries to get gas for your cars, only President Kerry will be able to drive around in his 9 mile per gallon SUV. The rest of the United States will have to walk or ride bikes.

You won't have any TV as the space center in Houston will cut off your communications. You won't have any natural gas to heat your homes but since Mr. Kerry has predicted global warming, you will not need the gas.

Signed, The People in Texas

R.H. Lee
September 9, 2004, 10:56 PM
Leave the U.S.??? FUGEDABOUTIT. I won't even leave California, no matter who is elected POTUS. As for Hillary Shrillary Rodham-Clinton, she has waaayy too much baggage to get elected POTUS, IMO. Not to mention this country is not quite ready for the first female president, IMO. :)

Dave R
September 9, 2004, 11:19 PM
LOL. WalkerTexasRanger, I like the way you think.

I was born in Texas. What will the Republic's policy on immigration (or re-immigration) be?

(BTW, I have the required 6 rifles and pile o' ammo...)

WalkerTexasRanger
September 9, 2004, 11:45 PM
All gun owners will be WELCOME anytime in the Republic of Texas. "I've got ammo" will be the passcode. Firearm ownership will be encouraged, heck it should be mandatory. (Da*m near is here now, anyway) :D

chickenfried
September 9, 2004, 11:45 PM
I'll be in Nevada working at some hospital. I'll have a nice leisurely commute. Live within a half hour of a good range. My criteria for gun buying, will be guns not legal in CA.

I'll also be a poker playing god that can do no wrong at the table.:D

Well actually I'm not sure if that's far enough away from CA. Are there any chinese people in Texas?

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
September 10, 2004, 01:41 AM
Come on over, Chickenfried. Richardson and Arlington are full of Chinese, Koreans and Vietnamese, not to mention all the Vietnamese on the Texas coast.

I'm thinking about maybe moving further west in Texas than DFW. It's getting so you can't see anything but brown air around here in the summertime some days.

Besides, we were a soverign country once. I bet we still have the owner's manual around here somplace. Unfortunately, we're still operating under the tight state constitution we 'had to' adopt during Reconstruction, but hey, we amend it every 2 years. CHL without a residency waiting period, range protection and RKBA. What a deal.

Still no state income tax, though :D


Regards,
Rabbit.

PMDW
September 10, 2004, 01:49 AM
If Kerry is elected, ever, I will buy an island in international waters, and start my own country.

Muzzleflash
September 10, 2004, 02:37 AM
I'd like to do the same.. hmm, thread idea.

Tharg
September 10, 2004, 02:43 AM
All saying the Republic of Texas comes about (we DO have the right to succeed according to the documents we joined with) then i'm already set....

Seeing as i'm in East Texas i already have a ready supply of dear and bass fish.... I already have fields to grow whatever in.... i already have the required 6 rifles (plus some)

Since i'm an Import (born in wisconsin) hopefully i'll not be descriminated against.... but the fact is i became a Texan at 8 yrs of age... so honestly i've got the attitude that I AM a Texas - as there is no other place i'd want to live.

(pls excuse my tendency to root for the Green Bay Packers....)

hehe

J/Tharg!

Sindawe
September 10, 2004, 02:54 AM
Darn shame Texas don't have any Mountains, sounds REAL attractive should Kerry capture the High Office. How the Biotech industry there?

2008? I'd like to be on my way to Mars, if not already there. :D Forseeable future? Well, lets just see what happens in November.

Hal
September 10, 2004, 04:56 AM
There isn't a thing out there that we need and don't have.
'cept water.

Tharg
September 10, 2004, 05:11 AM
Gulf of Mexico ring a bell?

hell - if nothing else - i'm living on land... and have a drilled well.

if that don't work - the army core of engineers has been creating lakes since i can remember....

I used to ride my dirtbikes where there is 30 ft of water now.... that feeds lake lewisville... that feeds lake dallas that feeds.....

you get the idea... er.. ideeee-er... <eg>

one45auto
September 10, 2004, 05:49 AM
I'll be right where I am now, God willing.

No matter what happens, leaving the country is not an option for me ~ no sir. I was born here, and generations of my ancestors lie buried in the soil. I took my first steps here. My great-great-grandfather fought here (on the Southern side, thank God), and a good many uncles went to war to defend this nation. This is my home, and I'll no more flee it when it's under attack (be it politically or otherwise) than I would my own house and if it should ever come to pass that I have to take up arms to defend her, well, there's no place I'd rather die if it should come to that.

Hal
September 10, 2004, 07:12 PM
Tharg -
yeah,,ok,,,whatever

BlkHawk73
September 10, 2004, 07:35 PM
Come on over, Chickenfried. Richardson and Arlington are full of Chinese, Koreans and Vietnamese, not to mention all the Vietnamese on the Texas coast.


Be nice now, a couple of them near the coast are the wife's family. :) They're the ones that keep me busy at the range during those "in-law visits" every year. A week of range time and war stories (he was a marine capt. in VN). :rolleyes: and listening to hints to move there. :uhoh:

Anyways, myself...I plan on being right here where I am now. Living on the same piece of property I grew up on and watching my son play and grow ( he'll be 7 in '08). Not sure about the laws there in TX but if it's federally legal it's ok for up here in Maine - that state we all wish more Mass, NY and NJ folks would forget about.:p gotta have all 5 seasons (yes we have 5 here)

ducktapehero
September 10, 2004, 07:49 PM
If Texas secedes then I'm sure at least a few other states would follow. Hell, maybe even most of them here in flyover country. If not I guess I'd be a Texan.

El Tejon
September 10, 2004, 07:56 PM
Hmmm, this Republic of Tejas things sounds pretty good. However, in the gun department, any Hoosiers would definitely be overqualified.

When I come down, I'll bring the humugous BP refinery in Whiting. (Hmmm, better drive the SUV).:D

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
September 10, 2004, 08:21 PM
BlkHawk73, for the record I like my Vietnamese neighbors. He was a Lt. Col. in the ARVN. All around nice guy. We play chess together sometimes.

Trust me, I have nothing but the utmost of respect for the Vietnamese people, especially those who I have been priviliged to meet. Same goes for the Koreans. My father-in-law was tight with the 5th. TES-ROK when he was in the Engineers over there.

Y'all come on. We're (still) building a country. Room for everybody in Texas.

Oh, and seasons? Got 'em here too. Mostly it's December, January, February and Hell.

Regards,
Rabbit.

Tharg
September 11, 2004, 06:56 AM
heheheh seasons... jan feb march... <rofl>

Hal - was being funny - this is a funny thread... humor - its whats for lunch.

I LIKE that we are the united states... otherwise we'd be.... something like the serious wastecase of countries that seem to think a lil plot of land makes a country.... (middle east, most of the european countries, most of the south american countries, etc etc..)

J/Tharg!

GD
September 11, 2004, 08:47 AM
Probably in the same mass grave with the rest of the freedom loving Americans if Kerry or Hillary gets elected.

LynnMassGuy
September 11, 2004, 08:56 AM
Hopefully I'll live in Bristol NH by then. Fortifying my compound.:evil:

TheLastBoyScout
September 11, 2004, 09:01 AM
USNA

BlkHawk73
September 11, 2004, 09:02 AM
5 seasons = spring, summer, fall, winter, mud :


Been to TX twice (San Antonio/kerrville and Houston/pearland). No disrespect by any means but I'll stay put. No desire for 110 degree weather with daily rain. Just the overall layout of things was odd enough to me. One of those "nice place to visit..." areas. I'm going again in Dec, but I'll be happy to come home that last day. Gotta have my evergreen tree mountains, rocky coast, and slower paced way of life w/o any metropolis nearby.

rick_reno
September 11, 2004, 11:13 AM
"Computer Industry - we currently lead the nation in producing computer chips and communications: Small places like Texas Instruments, Dell Computer, EDS, Raytheon, National Semiconductor, Motorola,Intel, AMD, Atmel, Applied Materials,
Ball Semiconductor, Dallas Semiconductor, Delphi, Nortel, Alcatel, Etc, Etc. The list goes on and on."

Intel, the worlds largest semi-conductor manfacturer has NO chip production in Texas. They have an interest in Sematech, which is a collection of semi-conductor companies who do research "together" in Austin, next to the AMD Fab. You can look down on the big AMD fab from some of the Sematech conference rooms. Intel's chip production is centered in Ariizona, New Mexico, Ireland and Israel.

TamThompson
September 11, 2004, 11:55 AM
With all due respect, what kind of chicken-manure question is that?

I really don't have much respect for Americans on either side of the liberal-conservative spectrum who plan to flee the country if their candidate loses.

How about standing your ground and fighting for your country and your rights??? That's the courageous thing to do. This is our land, our country, and I for one am going to continue to raise holy hell about my gun rights, my free speech rights, my privacy rights, and all other rights.

STAY AND FIGHT THE SOB'S! It's the courageous thing to do, and the right thing.

In 2008, I'll be living on an acreage out in the country here in Texas, well-armed and well-protected. With a swimming pool, too. :)

OtG
September 11, 2004, 02:03 PM
WalkerTexasRanger:

You forgot one:

13: Hot air. :D




-Owen

aguyindallas
September 11, 2004, 05:42 PM
WalkerTexasRanger.....you are right on!!!

My real question is this...what are we waiting for anyway???

SodiumBenzoate
September 11, 2004, 06:33 PM
In college, somewhere. Hopefully in a free state.

I'll also vote in my first election. Hopefully it will be an election where the RKBA is not in danger from either candidate, and the Republican primary will be between Rep. Paul and Dr. Rice. :p

fjolnirsson
September 11, 2004, 09:56 PM
On my own plot of land, doing my best to drop off of the grid.....

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