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TimH
September 10, 2004, 09:52 PM
Is the MP5 a machine gun? Maybe thats the wrong term automatic?

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Preacherman
September 10, 2004, 09:56 PM
See here (http://www.heckler-koch.de/html/english/behoerden/02_submachineguns/02_03_index.html) for the manufacturer's blurb...

TimH
September 10, 2004, 10:14 PM
Thanks Preacherman, I'm argueing with a gun control person on another board. HE brought up the MP5 anyway I should have searched the net....Thanks for the link

trapshooter
September 11, 2004, 08:55 AM
MP5 is (properly) a submachine gun. IOW, select-fire, pistol-caliber bullet hose. Very handy at the shorter ranges, but get less effective rapidly past 50-100 yards. Mechanically an excellent weapon, controllable, and I really appreciated the collapsible stock when I needed it. With the stock collapsed, you can stuff the gun and a bunch of loaded mags into a backpack, easily. Very handy. (Not in this country, guys). I don't even know ( I never bothered to look) if there are MP5's available on the US market manufactured before 1986, which would be the pre-req for us joe-citizens to own one, after going throught the ATF hoops. All of this is independent of the AWB junk. Different law.

(After a bit of thought, there must be legally transferrable MP-5's out there, as I think some members own them).:cool: I couldn't afford the gun or the ammo I would expend, though.:what: :evil:

Black Snowman
September 11, 2004, 09:07 AM
One thing I find most common about the people who support gun control is they don't have a clue what's already illegal. I'll point out one or two common laws and ask them to look up which of the other regulations apply for me. They don't do it of course, and if they could it would take years to review all of the federal gun laws, much less state and local.

Bwana John
September 11, 2004, 10:06 AM
Dreaded red X:cuss:

PBIR
September 11, 2004, 10:10 AM
Someone wants a select fire MP5?

Here ya go (http://www.autoweapons.com/products/products.html)

Bwana John
September 11, 2004, 10:13 AM
"Bwana on safari"

Hkmp5sd
September 11, 2004, 11:04 AM
:D
http://www.concealedcarry.info/modules/xoopsgallery/cache/albums/Image-Hosting/MP5.jpg
(Looks like the prices have gone up again...$16K, wow)

Chipperman
September 11, 2004, 11:50 AM
Those prices on autoweapons. :rolleyes:

Look at Subguns or Sturmgewehr for the real market prices.

Gunrunner
September 11, 2004, 11:51 AM
Woowee are those things going up in price! It's amazing what supply and demand can do. Maybe some day I'll win the Lotto, move to a normal state, and get me one of them. And a truckload of ammo to feed it. :p

El Tejon
September 11, 2004, 11:54 AM
No, it is a machine pistol (hence the name).

BTW, call it an HK54 and watch them froth at the mouth.:D

TimH
September 11, 2004, 04:22 PM
What is a "submachine gun"?

Mulliga
September 11, 2004, 04:49 PM
What is a "submachine gun"?

Trapshooter explained it - an SMG is an automatic weapon that fires pistol-caliber rounds.

TimH
September 11, 2004, 05:13 PM
Trapshooter explained it - an SMG is an automatic weapon that fires pistol-caliber rounds.

Ooops read that & it didn't click :rolleyes:

SB88LX
September 11, 2004, 05:50 PM
Damn 86 MG ban. those prices are ridiculous. Only full auto in my price range is the MAC-10 telephone booth gun.

PMDW
September 11, 2004, 07:08 PM
I was just barely able to save enough to buy a Sten. Pisses me off. A friend of mine got a MAC last year for $1500. They're twice that now.

AK103K
September 11, 2004, 07:28 PM
A friend of mine got a MAC last year for $1500. They're twice that now.
I'm glad I didnt pay a penny more than the $225 I paid for mine!:D

WhoKnowsWho
September 11, 2004, 07:34 PM
One thing I find most common about the people who support gun control is they don't have a clue what's already illegal.

Yeah, I was explaining what the end of the AWB really means to a person at work...

"That's all it was?! That was pointless!"

So now they kinda understand more of where my arguments come from...

deej
September 11, 2004, 10:11 PM
No, it is a machine pistol (hence the name).



Yup...HK calls it a "machine pistol" on their site, too:



Die HECKLER & KOCH MP 5 Maschinenpistolen funktionieren nach dem bewährten Prinzip des beweglich abgestützten Rollenverschlusses, wie das berühmte Sturmgewehr G3. Alle HK Merkmale, wie Zuverlässigkeit, einfache Handhabung, einfache Instandhaltung und hohe Sicherheit sind bei den HK MP 5 Maschinenpistolen zu finden. Das aufschießende Verschlusssystem macht die MP 5 extrem präzise und im Schuss gut kontrollierbar.

http://www.heckler-koch.de/html/german/behoerden/02_submachineguns/02_03_index.html

PMDW
September 11, 2004, 11:16 PM
While it may literally translate to "Machine pistol", that does not change the fact that it is in no way, shape, or form, a pistol.

Submachine gun.

4v50 Gary
September 12, 2004, 10:54 AM
Placed in single shot, the MP-5 will easily keep everything in a 5" bullseye at 100 yards.

jefnvk
September 13, 2004, 01:34 AM
Good for me then I liked shooting the MAC-10 much better than the MP5!

Now, if I could just hurry up and turn 21, so I can get one before the prices go up any higher :rolleyes:

MP5
September 13, 2004, 08:10 AM
I am not a machine gun :)

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