AWB sunset....disappointed in you guys


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Steve Smith
September 11, 2004, 02:55 AM
Come on guys, we just have Monday left! Let's hear some cheers! I don't know whether they just got lazy or whether our work actually meant something, but I'm quite happy this thing is dead. I know, I'm kinda counting chickens before they hatch, but we're practically there. Rather than speculating what the next 10 years are going to be like, I'm just going to be happy for now that some awful legislation dinally died.


IT'S ABOUT DAMNED TIME!!!!


:D :D :D :D :D :D

P.s. I REALLY wish I were in the states so I could celebrate today!

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Geech
September 11, 2004, 03:07 AM
I'm just wondering whether my local dealer will have the gun I want in stock. I'm kinda psyched about getting my first AR, but I'll only get one if it has banned features like a collapsable stock, flash supressor and a bayonet lug.

themic
September 11, 2004, 03:10 AM
it's kindof a holding-your-breath period, to me.

i think: don't get too excited, don't jinx it.... just hold my breath, and exhale slowly on 9/14.

Dionysusigma
September 11, 2004, 04:43 AM
Indiana Jones: "Well, we made it."

Henry Jones: "When we're airborne, with Germany behind us, then I'll share that sentiment." --Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade

;)

chevrofreak
September 11, 2004, 04:49 AM
I'll do the cheering at 00:00:01 Tuesday

WhoKnowsWho
September 11, 2004, 05:01 AM
There are probably still people over on TFL who think THR is still down to the BFS (Big freakin' storms). :D

I ordered some stuff, and the gun show is the weekend after it expires, I'll see what else I can get, doubt the show will have much though. If I had no wish to be a good person, I would order a pile of Glock mags and sell them at the show to people who think they are still worth $40+

Steve Smith
September 11, 2004, 05:15 AM
Ok ok, we'll hold our breaths...but 'm still excited. :D

Badger Arms
September 11, 2004, 05:20 AM
Steve, when Concentration Camp survivors were allowed to leave, they didn't cheer, throw parties, and celebrate. They often didn't even leave. We've lived in this repressed society for so long, it's almost unimaginable that a law is actually repealing itself this quietly. It's almost too good to be true. I have a feeling most are quietly planning to GORGE THEMSELVES on anything that looks, smells, or feels like an assault weapon.

BTW, know ye all that the term 'assault weapon' is officially dead in most states come Monday night. If asked, they are simply magazines, rifles, pistols, and shotguns, thank you very much.

The_Antibubba
September 11, 2004, 05:31 AM
:o

The_Antibubba
September 11, 2004, 05:32 AM
When John Effin sKerry and the DU are trying to analyze what went wrong-

When the big artery in DiFi's neck finally bursts-

When the Hero of Chappaquiddick drowns in his own juices-

and

When Hellary is convicted of Vice Foster's murder-


Then, maybe, I'll relax a little, and breathe a sigh of relief.

This is only a reprieve, not exoneration.

Steve Smith
September 11, 2004, 05:38 AM
About a month ago I bought Tamara's HK91 (with collapsibvle stock). Now, I realize that theoretically it's "value" has dropped (and I knew it might when I bought it)...you know what? I'm still VERY happy to have it. :D Can't wait to get home and shoot it...and buy more mags for everything!

S

Wildalaska
September 11, 2004, 05:54 AM
Steve, when Concentration Camp survivors were allowed to leave, they didn't cheer, throw parties, and celebrate. They often didn't even leave. We've lived in this repressed society for so long, it's almost unimaginable that a law is actually repealing itself this quietly.

Analogizing the effects on people of the repeal of a stupid law that really was nothing more than a bunch of fluff on one side and an inconvenience to the other (cant have flash hiders...waaaaaaaaaaaaah) to the horror of the holocaust disgusts me and quite frankly, pisses me off. I expected more out of you Badg

When Hellary is convicted of Vice Foster's murder-

Im speechless....:scrutiny:

Whatever, Ill take my reynolds wrap yarmulke off now and take a nap, hopefully the aliens wont show up


WildevenafuntimedegeneratesAlaska

stevelyn
September 11, 2004, 10:57 AM
Tomorrow night (Sunday) at 2359hrs, I will be at our range counting down the seconds. At precisely 0001hrs (Monday), I will be expending a magazine of 5.56 NATO ball and tracers from my Daewoo K2.:D

Highland Ranger
September 11, 2004, 11:54 AM
I have my pistol purchase permits in HAND!

02Overlander
September 11, 2004, 12:36 PM
Come on guys, we just have Monday left! Let's hear some cheers!

Cheers???? ????, this sunset cost me a fortune, had the AWB been extended I'd have back the 4K it cost to buy toyz in celebration of the sunset. :banghead: ;) :D

El Tejon
September 11, 2004, 12:57 PM
Wild, this tinfoil Yamaha you have . . . does it work against bears, pumas and magic unicorns of THR?:confused:

HIP, HIP, HOORAY!
HIP, HIP, HOORAY!
HIP, HIP, HOORAY! THE MORONIC BAN HAS GONE AWAY!:D

hillbilly
September 11, 2004, 12:57 PM
Steve Smith, the pessimism and carping and bitching and poor-mouthing and complaining and general lousy attitude displayed by many in the shooting community used to drive me crazy.

But then, I re-read the book of Exodus and the account of the Israelites wandering in the wilderness.

It's a great lesson in human nature.

The awful truth is that human beings, given a choice between rejoicing and celebrating or carping and moaning, will almost always choose carping and moaning.

It's just human nature. The glass is always half-empty for most folks.

Check the story of the Exodus, and the account of those Israelites who, a little ways into the journey, complained that they were at least fed well as slaves, and that Moses had led them into the wilderness to starve, and then they went back to Pharoah, begging on their knees to be taken back.

They were, of course, executed with swords for their troubles, but they chose dying on their knees on familiar ground over wandering on their own feet in unfamiliar territory.

My only advice is don't let the pessimistic so-and-so's get you down.

hillbilly

Badger Arms
September 11, 2004, 02:00 PM
Wildalaska: Not sure you know much about my background, but take a look at the site below. My name is Aaron and my brother's name is Joel. You do the math.
http://www.jpfo.org/

Also, read through the following article:
http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/article-nazilaw.pdf

Comparing firearms law to the holocost is not only wholly appropriate, but historically accurate. Firearms laws are step 8, if you will, of the 10-step program. Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

Geech
September 11, 2004, 03:07 PM
Is it just me or are 90% of WildAlaska's posts negative?

Mulliga
September 11, 2004, 03:18 PM
The high road, people.

Anyway, I heard on ARF.com that it ends on the last second of Sunday. The AWBsunset.com timer reflects this. Monday morning I'll order a collapsible stock and do a jig. :D

Wildalaska
September 11, 2004, 03:43 PM
Wildalaska: Not sure you know much about my background, but take a look at the site below. My name is Aaron and my brother's name is Joel. You do the math.

We talked about that once before I beleive at an auction or at the shop....does not make the comparison any more valid however.

And with the utmost repsct I have for Steve Halbrook he can be wrong too.

Is it just me or are 90% of WildAlaska's posts negative?

Its you...try the ignore button


Wild, this tinfoil Yamaha you have . . . does it work against bears, pumas and magic unicorns of THR

Actusally...I aint been bit by a bear yet :)

WildthreecheersforsunsetAlaska

The_Antibubba
September 11, 2004, 03:45 PM
WildA,

I was trying to make the point that this is a small gain. The AWB wasn't repealed, by brave lawmakers or by mandate of the public. It is the built-in expiration time.

Period.

On Sept. 15, a new and even more restrictive bill could be introduced. A Kerry Presidency will virtually doom gun ownership, and slant SCOTUS for decades.

Oh, and I'm gonna grumble anyway, cuz I live in Commiforneeya, and the Federal expiration doesn't affect the state bans :(

OF
September 11, 2004, 03:54 PM
The fat lady is warming up in the green room, and the schedule has her on next, but the jackasses are still on the stage right now.

- Gabe ;)

varoadking
September 11, 2004, 04:18 PM
Latest rumor is that W will be pressured into signing an executive order tomorrow extending the ban for a year.

Let's hope that's all it is - rumor...

Wildalaska
September 11, 2004, 04:28 PM
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

WildjustspitteaonthekeyboardAlaska

Badger Arms
September 11, 2004, 04:29 PM
Rumors... The Executive Order power does not userp the Legislative power. Bush can sign an executive order calling for the extermination of all blue-eyed midgets, that doesn't make it legal.

(the term 'little people' is just a little PC for me.)

Badger Arms
September 11, 2004, 04:41 PM
We talked about that once before I beleive at an auction or at the shop....does not make the comparison any more valid however.It was an analogy. While it's universally accepted that discriminatory laws like the 'Jim Crow' laws and the concept of 'Separate but Equal' in American History were oppressive, equally oppressive laws which prevent those of a certain race or ethnicity from owning guns are not often enough examined. It is laws like these that allow oppression to occur. One has a hard time repressing a Well-Armed Jew, correct? Ask the Palestinians, the Egyptians, the Syrians, the Iraqi's, etc. In fact, it is my sincere belief that the Crux of the argument lies in ones capacity for self-defense. We are being oppressed to the same level as Jews were at a certain point prior to the final solution. The state and media sponsorship of outright hate against the gun-owning population is mirrored by that same period of time in the history of Pre-War Germany. Human nature is a predictable thing. Without vigilance, we are doomed to repeat the Holocaust and we conservative Christians and Jews are first on the chopping blocks, brother. Wolves don't eat the sheep till they've killed the sheep-dogs.

(Dismounting soap-box)

Now, I'm not going to celebrate at all. I do plan on having a play-party time switching, swapping, and enjoying. It's a soboring moment for all, but it was INACTION AND FEAR that kept this law from being extended... It was NOT action and that is disturbing to be sure. Rest in peace.

varoadking
September 11, 2004, 04:53 PM
The Executive Order power does not userp the Legislative power. Bush can sign an executive order calling for the extermination of all blue-eyed midgets, that doesn't make it legal.

The extermination of a class of people is in and of itself unlawful.

The exclusion of a class of firearms is not - as has already been established.

Stranger things have happened...

OF
September 11, 2004, 05:52 PM
Bush might as well take a pistol out and shoot himself in the head if he does something like that.

One thing he learned from his Dad: don't piss off the gun owners.

- Gabe

Steve Smith
September 12, 2004, 02:17 AM
Badger, you're correct that their inaction and fear are what allowed this to happen. Yes, it was not a "victory" per se, but their FEAR is what we should celebrate.

spacemanspiff
September 12, 2004, 02:48 AM
you know how effective that tinfoil yamaha is? WA can take a snooze on top of a bear bait and not be molested, not even by any bears!

:neener:

twoblink
September 12, 2004, 09:42 AM
Don't forget to morn for our brothers in the PRK..

My friend from LA is going to drive to Vegas and do a "AWB-BATF Special"..

He's going to buy some liquor, cigarettes, a gun, and hi cap mags..

heheheh

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