UZI carbines (semi auto) available soon?


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toolmaker
September 12, 2004, 01:16 PM
For years I've regretted not buying the UZI model B a local chain store in 1984 could't get rid of until some sharp fella offered them $250 for it and took it home, NIB. Now, 20 years wiser I'd like to correct my mistake. With the AWB dying, can I get a new UZI carbine with the folding stock? I want a 9mm carbine due to the cheapness of ammo. Where do I turn?

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nero45acp
September 12, 2004, 01:39 PM
I too am eager to get a semi-auto 9mm Uzi with a 16" barrel, and a folding stock. I've heard good things about Vector Arms. Hope they have them in stock soon! Anyone else have any additional info?

www.vectorarms.com


nero

fatNINJA
September 12, 2004, 09:38 PM
I e-mailed Vector about a month ago and I was told that they will be selling folding stock Uzi's after the sunset and that they will be the same price as the 'post ban' model they currently sell now; unless the demand flairs up real bad that is.

Dionysusigma
September 13, 2004, 08:02 PM
What's their email address?

nero45acp
September 13, 2004, 08:16 PM
vectorarms@bbscmail.com




nero

Hkmp5sd
September 13, 2004, 08:19 PM
As for the original question, the Uzi Model B will not be imported because it was not the AW ban that halted them. They are not considered "sporting" by ATF. There is talk that a redesigned Uzi carbine will soon be imported. Best bet is to go ahead and buy a made in USA version.

Nando Aqui
September 13, 2004, 08:32 PM
Back in the early 80's I had one of the original Uzi's, semi-auto, with a fake short barrel and the real, legal longer barrel. Did not like it at all, had no use for it, and I could hit almost as well (better?) with my S&W or Browning 9mm pistols. Sold it in a hurry and never regretted not having it.

I fully understand that each person has his/her own tastes, so buy what makes you happy. May I advise that unless you are just interested in its looks, if you can, try one out before you buy it.

Alex

Dionysusigma
September 13, 2004, 09:10 PM
I'm actually more curious about these...


Full Size Post- Ban: Includes one of the new polymer fixed stocks, made by IMI.
http://www.vectorarms.com/photos/carbineFull.GIF
$595.00 + $18.00 shipping

http://www.vectorarms.com/guns/UZI_Page.htm

So... since the buttstock is already Israeli, can we switch it out with a metal folder of Israeli origin... thus having a Like-Model-B?

nero45acp
September 13, 2004, 09:37 PM
I want the same thing (with the folding stock).:D



nero

Dionysusigma
September 13, 2004, 11:42 PM
Oh, another thing... were barrel shrouds not allowed on both pistols and rifles, or just pistols only? I can't remember...

Asking because I wanna put one on there as well as the folder--for instance, the one that Bushmaster sells.

Jim K
September 13, 2004, 11:47 PM
My only regret was not following the advice of a friend and having my UZI legally converted to selective fire as he had done. Neat gun. And of course, machineguns were never affected by the AWB or the barrel length limit.

Jim

Hkmp5sd
September 14, 2004, 07:12 AM
were barrel shrouds not allowed on both pistols and rifles
Pistols.

c_yeager
September 14, 2004, 07:51 AM
I know this is rifle coutnry but, if someone could make one locally i think an one of the uzi pistols (micro uzi??) could sell quite well. Short barrel-no stock yum.

Kharn
September 14, 2004, 09:09 AM
Vector makes the majority of their Uzi parts, no importation issues.

Kharn

ninjalawyer
September 14, 2004, 11:32 AM
So... since the buttstock is already Israeli, can we switch it out with a metal folder of Israeli origin... thus having a Like-Model-B?

Nope. Don't do it!

That would violate the import ban. Taking a gun that was imported after being deemed "suitable for sporting purposes" and changing it into another configuration is illegal. The only way around it is to make it a "US-made rifle" by swapping out enough parts that there are no more than 10 foreign made parts left out of the following list:

"Receivers, Barrels, Muzzle attachments, Barrel Extensions, Gas Pistons, Forearm Hand Guards, Trigger housings, Disconnectors, Magazine bodies, Magazine Followers, Magazine Floor Plates, Bolt carriers, Bolts, Hammers, Triggers, Sears, Butt stocks, Mounting blocks, Operating Rods, and Pistol Grips"

The trick will be getting US-made furniture, trigger assemblies and trigger parts. Switching one foreign part out for another doesn't help you unless the rifle already has enough US parts that the switch doesn't matter.

Hope that helps!

Kenneth Lew
September 14, 2004, 11:49 AM
Nope. Don't do it!

That would violate the import ban. Taking a gun that was imported after being deemed "suitable for sporting purposes" and changing it into another configuration is illegal. The only way around it is to make it a "US-made rifle" by swapping out enough parts that there are no more than 10 foreign made parts left out of the following list:

"Receivers, Barrels, Muzzle attachments, Barrel Extensions, Gas Pistons, Forearm Hand Guards, Trigger housings, Disconnectors, Magazine bodies, Magazine Followers, Magazine Floor Plates, Bolt carriers, Bolts, Hammers, Triggers, Sears, Butt stocks, Mounting blocks, Operating Rods, and Pistol Grips"

The trick will be getting US-made furniture, trigger assemblies and trigger parts. Switching one foreign part out for another doesn't help you unless the rifle already has enough US parts that the switch doesn't matter.

Hope that helps!

Some of the Vector's Semi-Auto Uzi Receivers are domestically made. The import ban does not apply to those.

armoredman
September 14, 2004, 11:53 AM
I had an UZI model B - what a POS jammamatic. I sold the sucker for a ton right after the ban went into effect, as I hated the thing. Got a Springfield 1911A1, a Davis 380, enough ammo to keep both running for years, and $300....I got triple what I paid for the unreliable UZI....

ninjalawyer
September 14, 2004, 12:09 PM
Some of the Vector's Semi-Auto Uzi Receivers are domestically made. The import ban does not apply to those.

I don't know the details about Vector, but if they're using Izzy or South African parts I believe that you are mistaken. My understanding is that the manufacture of the receiver is significant only as one part towards the final count. My STG-58 FAL has a US-made DSA receiver and was assembled by CGW in Nevada and it still had to have 7 US-made compliance parts to make it legal.

another48hrs
September 14, 2004, 04:27 PM
I believe Vector Arms is quite aware of the part counts, after all they are a licensed dealer of firearms and it would be idiotic for them not to be aware of the law. If you have doubts I would contact Vector Arms and ask them what the US parts are and if you can change it to a folding stock.

nero45acp
September 17, 2004, 09:43 AM
Yesterday I ordered a Vector Arms 9mm semi-auto full-sized Uzi with a folding stock and a 16" barrel (didn't want to hassle with the stamp). The lady I spoke with at Vector gave me a choice of a IMI, or a heat treated Group Industries receiver on my Uzi. I went with the heat treated Group Ind. receiver. I let you'll know how it shoots after I get it and put some rounds thru it.


nero

TODD3465
September 17, 2004, 11:37 AM
This is the first time I've heard any negative comments about the UZI carbine.

The one I had was acurate and realiable.

The only problem was the limited range due to the 9mm round; by limited I mean up to 100yds, after that it starts to drop too much for my taste.

Hkmp5sd
September 17, 2004, 12:12 PM
My original UZI carbine still works reliably to this day. Never had any feeding problems with it and it's great for plinking. My only regret is never getting around to having it converted to full auto 20 years ago when I bought it and it was cheap to do so.

TODD3465
September 17, 2004, 12:24 PM
My big regret was not buying an original transferable UZI full-auto when I had the chance to.:banghead:

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
September 18, 2004, 01:59 AM
I had a Title II UZI that someone offered me just way too much money for years back. Later, I had an IMI Model B for awhile. One year it was the only thing I had at my disposal when deer season came around. I stoked it with 3 Silvertips after I blocked off the magazine with a dowel but wouldn't you know, that was the lest productive hunt I ever had.

I might get another one of these days, but I feel like I've moved on to more practical toys.

Dang FALS.

Regards,
Rabbit.

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